DIESEL TROLL Posted September 12, 2003 Share Posted September 12, 2003 Florida reunion Falcons quarterback Doug Johnson will be competing against his former college coach, Washington's Steve Spurrier, when the two teams meet in Atlanta. Everyone knows that the two men had an awful relationship at the U. of Florida. In fact, Spurrier bad-mouthed Johnson enough that he wasn't drafted in 2000. He signed with Atlanta for $17,000 as a free agent. On Wednesday, Johnson, who is 2-0 as a Mike Vick replacement, was asked about Spurrier and all he said was that he respected his former coach. Said Johnson: "You all can keep asking, trying to sneak in the back door or the front door, but the answers are not going to change." Johnson, who will be an unrestricted free agent after this season, has already caused the Redskins some problems. Spurrier still uses the same audible lingo he used at Florida. "I'm sure that Doug will go in there and tell the defensive coaches a lot of our audibles," said Redskins quarterbacks coach Noah Brindise. "So we're going to have to find a way to combat that." On a lighter side, Falcons cornerback Ray Buchanan presented Johnson with a jug of Listerine on Monday. The two players have had a running gag all summer about which one has the worse breath. Buchanan said the gift served as a compliment for Johnson's second-half play against the Cowboys while reminding him "that his breath still stinks." PS: Geez, I can't believe this gaff by Spurrier, let's hope Ramsey can adjust, how much more are we going to put on this kid's shoulders? This is a serious problem and will cost us..... :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbear Posted September 12, 2003 Share Posted September 12, 2003 Another article talked about what Spurrier did last season when playing against former FL players. They simply change a few plays. That way, when the D hears an audible and is thinking run, you've really got a play like the pitch back to the QB throw long called. You don't have to change many to take advantage of a team that thinks they have your plays. SOS says they look at it during each game to see if they think opponents are stealing the plays. Afterall, there is lots of tape from last year and in college to try and figure out the hand signals. The audibles aren't much different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bang Posted September 12, 2003 Share Posted September 12, 2003 I would have to think this is no surprise to the Redskins coaching staff. They've known Vick is out for about a month now, and have known the Falcons and Johnson are on the schedule since spring. Besides, I think Johnson is going to have enough to worry about trying to get LaVar out of his earhole on Sunday to be thinking too heavily about our signals. ~Bang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Die Hard Posted September 12, 2003 Share Posted September 12, 2003 What the heck is the big deal? All we've heard from Spurrier's former players is how it's not the same playbook he used at Florida. So now it is? Or was every other player lying? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brave Posted September 12, 2003 Share Posted September 12, 2003 There seems to be a great effort to manufacture bad blood between Spurrier & the Redskins and Johnson & the Falcons. I wish the media would just shut up already and let these two 1-0 teams get it on Sunday. Write about the game AFTER it's played ... that way you can write about FACTS instead of fiction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NASMTrainer Posted September 12, 2003 Share Posted September 12, 2003 I'm not worried at all. Steve and the staff are smart men. I'm sure they can figure this out. Don't get too upset of little things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonnyJ Posted September 12, 2003 Share Posted September 12, 2003 I thought audibles got changed for every game. I would think that once a team plays you once, they would have a pretty good handle on your audibles. You pretty much have to constantly be changing them, or they would become common knowledge around the league, thus rendering them useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCS Posted September 12, 2003 Share Posted September 12, 2003 Oh my god! I can't..... I mean....This is........ "I'm sure that Doug will go in there and tell the defensive coaches a lot of our audibles," said Redskins quarterbacks coach Noah Brindise. "So we're going to have to find a way to combat that." There ya have it. Thinking all is well there. Oh, he may even think he knows some of S.S.'s tendencies too, but take a look at the Jets game for questions on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowghost Posted September 12, 2003 Share Posted September 12, 2003 Knowing the play is one thing, stopping it is another:D I am not worried:twitch: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CounterTre Posted September 12, 2003 Share Posted September 12, 2003 John Jansen said some interesting things in his recent interview for the WT. One of the things he hit on was the fact that most of the time players on both sides of the ball know what's coming anyway, it's all a matter of who executes and who doesn't. Based on that I'd say the audible issue is a non-issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luca Brasi Posted September 12, 2003 Share Posted September 12, 2003 This has been brought up in what, 5 threads now? How long ago were Johnson and SS together at Florida? Give it a break already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooma Posted September 12, 2003 Share Posted September 12, 2003 Originally posted by Die Hard What the heck is the big deal? All we've heard from Spurrier's former players is how it's not the same playbook he used at Florida. So now it is? Or was every other player lying? Die Hard they are talking about the audibles not the playbook. Even if the playbook is different there will still be some old plays. Each team just has a different way of calling audibles, no need to worry Spurrier knows and will change it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gridironmike Posted September 12, 2003 Share Posted September 12, 2003 Johnson won't be on the field for defense anyway, although I wish he would try!! Maybe Spurrier can scream out some audibles to Johnson and screw him up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TC4 Posted September 12, 2003 Share Posted September 12, 2003 As hard as they say it is for a QB to learn all the audibles in Spurrier's system, does anyone believe that the Falcons defense can learn them all in less that a week? If Rob Johnson knew everything, they wouldn't have brought in Danny Wurffuel would they, and RJ had been with the team since spring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavy Jumbo Posted September 12, 2003 Share Posted September 12, 2003 Originally posted by DIESEL TROLL On Wednesday, Johnson, who is 2-0 as a Mike Vick replacement, was asked about Spurrier and all he said was that he respected his former coach. Said Johnson: "You all can keep asking, trying to sneak in the back door or the front door, but the answers are not going to change." The Pre-season doesn't count for a win. The Redskins have worked on changing some of their audibles this week, no sweat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsThug Posted September 12, 2003 Share Posted September 12, 2003 Dude, I know the audibles -- every one changes a passing play to a running play. At least, that's all Ramsey has done this season. It's about physically dominating the opponent. If we do that, we can tell the other team when we line up what the play is and where the runner is going and there will be nothing they can do about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD_washingtonredskins Posted September 12, 2003 Share Posted September 12, 2003 The Pre-season doesn't count for a win. I think his 2-0 record is over the past two years. He beat the Giants last year when Vick went down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavy Jumbo Posted September 12, 2003 Share Posted September 12, 2003 Gotcha. My bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kornheiser Posted September 12, 2003 Share Posted September 12, 2003 Originally posted by Brave There seems to be a great effort to manufacture bad blood between Spurrier & the Redskins and Johnson & the Falcons. I wish the media would just shut up already and let these two 1-0 teams get it on Sunday. Write about the game AFTER it's played ... that way you can write about FACTS instead of fiction. Yep Manufacturing news out of nothing, & nothing more. Redskins, Snyder & Spurrier being "the usual suspects" on slow days for the NFL. "News at 11...Reports have it, the ball holder for the Giants had a yelling match over form his sophmore year under Spurrier in his days at Florida who meet in week three!!" -- It's almost that bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldog Posted September 12, 2003 Share Posted September 12, 2003 with all of the crowd noise playing indoors the Skins are going to be limited in the amount of audibles they are able to call in any event this game comes down to blocking, tackling and running as it does every week and I think the Redskins have better overall talent than Atlanta does. If Ramsey plays well and doesn't get rattled with the crowd noise early the Skins should be able to wear the Falcons down with their size on both sides of the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RabidFan Posted September 12, 2003 Share Posted September 12, 2003 Rich Cook on Comcast last nite said we've been working all week in practice on a list of dummy audibles to fool Atl if Johnson gave them some pointers to look for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD_washingtonredskins Posted September 12, 2003 Share Posted September 12, 2003 To me this seems pretty easy to beat. If in fact they are relying on knowing our audibles (which I doubt) we could simply take a page out of MLB games and flash a series of hand-signals. Our O would know that the 3rd one is always the one we're switching to. Or change which one in the series is the real one in the huddle each play...shouldn't be too tough for Spurrier to combat this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reaganaut Posted September 12, 2003 Share Posted September 12, 2003 If Spurrier continues his "New" personna with running instead of passing, this may be a moot point anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted September 12, 2003 Share Posted September 12, 2003 In these days of free agency and players flopping teams all over the place, I would expect that teams would have to deal with the threat of signal stealing every single week. This is an overblown worry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilmer17 Posted September 12, 2003 Share Posted September 12, 2003 That may be true. But why would that matter now as opposed to if Vick was playing? He'd still know the audibles and would still be on the sidelines. Furthermore, wouldnt this mean that EVERY ex gator player would know the audibles? Why is it such an issue this week? Oh that's right, the mediots need to put down the Skins somehow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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