Kosher Ham Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 And there is your problem. Watch the games. Stats don't always tell the story. He is a project, but I would certainly put him mid to late first round. Rebounding alone will probably get him some serious consideration for the first round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovetoaster Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 1.) Lack of athleticism2.)No jumpshot 3.)Not very skilled in the post. Yep. That's about it right there. I like Williams, but I think he made a big mistake developmentally in coming out. He probably will make more money this year because the draft is so weak, but I think he could have made bigger strides in his game if he came back to Maryland. He just is not that great of an athlete. I just don't know how effective he will be in the NBA. In college, he could be dominant just based on size, because not many teams had guys as big as he was. In the NBA, everybody will and the ones he will go up against will be better athletes. He has a lot of work to do. But I have heard that he has gotten guarantees that he will be a late 1st round pick. I am not sure if I would take him in the 1st, but it will be interesting to see where he ends up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonArtest15 Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 And there is your problem. Watch the games. Stats don't always tell the story. He is a project, but I would certainly put him mid to late first round. Rebounding alone will probably get him some serious consideration for the first round. Exactly. It's like looking at Jimmer Fredette's 1.5 spg (or whatever it was) and coming to the conclusion that he was a good defender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 I also recall reading that he had an awful combine. Earlier in the college season I saw a few mocks with him in the teens. Then he struggled late and had a poor showing for NBA scouts. Now he's dropped. Should have stayed another year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The X-Factor Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 Right, but his competition wasn't the same as Williams'. For the record, I wouldn't compare him to Okafor. Statistically, in the NBA Okafer is a solid rebounder and maginal scorer. Would it be unreasonable to expect Williams to be a solid rebounder in the NBA? That's a valid argument, but compared to some other skillsets I think rebounding translates better into the NBA. Just look at Ben Wallace. He was a great rebounder at the D2 level and became even better in the NBA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 He really should have stayed in school. In 2013 he could have been a lotto pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyDave Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 Its a shame we do not have two first rounders in 2012 when the more talented players come out. But this should be the year we look to purging the cancers cough Blatche and or building a bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 You lost me at "arguably college basketball's toughest division" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grhqofb5 Posted June 22, 2011 Author Share Posted June 22, 2011 You lost me at "arguably college basketball's toughest division" Do you have a different opinion? Maybe you should share it instead of being a smart***. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAVEONAWARPATH Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 Do you have a different opinion? Big 12 and Big East (even though many of the teams have underperformed in the NCAAs). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 Do you have a different opinion? Maybe you should share it instead of being a smart***. My opinion is that the ACC was extremely weak last year, both the Big East and Big10 were WAY better leagues, and you could argue that the Big 12 was just as good if not better than the ACC. Any argument that stems from Jordan Williams playing in the best conference loses all credibility as does any person who tries to make that claim, especially when they subsequently admit that they haven't really watched many Maryland games and therefore have no real basis for the claim they are making. That better? ---------- Post added June-22nd-2011 at 12:06 PM ---------- But don't take my word for it: http://statsheet.com/mcb/conferences Conference RPI Conf RPI Rank Big East Big Ten Big 12 Mountain West ACC SEC Pac 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjfootballer Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 As a MD fan, I wish he'd have stayed one more year. I think he needs it. All the responses in this thread have been pretty fair for him. Going in the first round gives him a guaranteed contract and like the one poster said, he'll go to a good team that can sit him on the bench and let him learn. He was a solid player, not spectacular. He needs to develop a low post game. I think his jump shot is OK, not great. He can stick it from 10-15 feet out. But he should have stayed and developed his game more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 he ends up going in the 2nd round to New Jersey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ixcuincle Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 Lol at ACC being named a tough division Basically everyone else has made my point for me but there was no doubt ACC was not the best conference last season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipwhich Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 Lol at ACC being named a tough division Basically everyone else has made my point for me but there was no doubt ACC was not the best conference last season Really???? How is the ACC making out in the draft? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichmondRedskin88 Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 Really???? How is the ACC making out in the draft? ACC or Duke? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipwhich Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 ACC or Duke? ACC What conference is dwarfing them. I mean I get the point, but his post was idiotic given the first pick of the draft was a Freshman from the ACC, one wouldn't deduce the ACC is a weak conference because Jordan WIlliams was drafted in the second as a sophomore It's just stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 ACCWhat conference is dwarfing them. I mean I get the point, but his post was idiotic given the first pick of the draft was a Freshman from the ACC, one wouldn't deduce the ACC is a weak conference because Jordan WIlliams was drafted in the second as a sophomore It's just stupid. The #1 pick was a freshman from the ACC that did not actually play any games in the ACC. He played 8 regular season games, none against an ACC opponent. Saying that kyrie Irving made the ACC slate tougher is sort of ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipwhich Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 The #1 pick was a freshman from the ACC that did not actually play any games in the ACC. He played 8 regular season games, none against an ACC opponent. Saying that kyrie Irving made the ACC slate tougher is sort of ridiculous. Exactly, as ridiculous as judging a conference by where a sophomore gets drafted...hence my point. But if you want to judge conferences by drafts, the ACC did alright. But it's a stupid measure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjfootballer Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 Year in and year out the ACC has been one of the toughest conferences. Last year it was a pretty weak year. But the ACC did pretty good getting guys drafted considering they went through a down year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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