Laxpunk2006 Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 That move set this franchise back a decade. Hyperbole much? Campbell didn't cost us 2 first round picks. He cost a first, third, and fourth. A decade? Not even close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s0crates Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 What was the scouting report on Shuler? Which current day QB was he supposed to be like? (Say he was a prospect today, his NFL comparison.) I remember, I remember his suck and his hype, but I was so young at the time I don't really remember the details behind it too much. I'm not sure who you would compare him to today, but the talk at the time was that Shuler would be "the next Troy Aikman," the strong-armed trigger-man in Norv's offense.Maybe this will refresh your memory: 44Zg2lr8b5k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mania Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 Just looking at all the 90s 1st round busts that we had shows how bad Charlie Casserly was. Yes, Desmond Howard was squarely on Gibbs shoulders as he wanted him. Heath Shuler came out with Trent Dilfer and it has been highly documented that Charlie Casserly wanted Trent Dilfer, but we could have done better not drafting a WR as Trent was nothing special either. The only reason the Ravens went to the super bowl was the defense. I don't fault Casserly much for Michael Westbrook as any team in need of a WR would have chosen him as he was a beast at Colorado. Andre Johnson, come on, we needed to trade with the Cowboys to acquire a bust. Lets not forget Kenard Lang, who may not have been one of the worst busts, but he was a bust. Casserly and the lack of solid 1st rounders was a big reason Norv Turner didn't succeed in the 90s. Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rpredskins Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 westbrook made a pro bowl and helped us be one of the top offenses in 99, so i wouldnt put him on the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A.C.O.L.B. Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 I'm not sure who you would compare him to today, but the talk at the time was that Shuler would be "the next Troy Aikman," the strong-armed trigger-man in Norv's offense.Maybe this will refresh your memory: Yeah I've seen that show a dozen times. I'll say one thing, Heath Shuler might be the most successful former 1st round bust ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADF Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 Damn! How do you squander three top four picks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Adama Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 While Mr. 50/50 was indeed a disappointment but Shuler was the biggest disappointment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slacky McSlackAss Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 Shuler by far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jschlesi Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 My first thought is always Tory Nixon. But he was a second. The one that hurt me the most on the draft day was Rod Gardner. I was with another a skins fan watching the draft and yelling for Steve Hutchinson. instead we get 50/50!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2cents Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 Gardner was a bust if for no other reason then I was shouting for us to draft Drew Brees at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charles mannley Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 Ivoted for Heith Shuler, but I have to ask where is Taylor Jacobs Edit: Sorry wasn't pying enough attention to see "other." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vicrodjr Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 Andre Johnson, to the best of my memory never played a down in his rookie yr, and got cut in camp the next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tibbidoe Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 From the list there, it has to be Shuler. Busted OL/WRs don't do as much damage to a franchise as a busted QB does. Blind luck to get Gus Frerotte, who almost played the position like a big boy (ignoring "The Headbutt", of course). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeumd Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 two words for you Vinny Cerrato was our biggest bust :-P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyHolt Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 Andre Johnson. At least the others played a snap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icbmayday Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 Goode Ole heath shuler lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew_Fl Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 crap i accidentally voted for Westbrook. i meant to vote for shuler. i just hit the wrong button. oh well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsCrushCowboys Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 people fogot this loser held out for cash with case of red ass over his contract...then proceeded to suck. Heath Shuler..no contest. Shuler was a first-round selection in the 1994 NFL Draft, taken by the Washington Redskins with the third overall pick. ESPN rated him the 4th biggest NFL Draft bust of all time.[2] He held out of training camp until he received a 7-year, $19.25 million contract. The Redskins had fallen on hard times since winning Super Bowl XXVI, and Shuler was looked on as the quarterback of the future. However, Shuler's poor play contributed to a quarterback controversy with fellow 1994 draft pick Gus Frerotte. This was evident when Shuler threw five interceptions in a game against the Arizona Cardinals. Shuler started 18 games in his first two years with the team and was benched in his third year, as Frerotte went to the Pro Bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWCREDSKINS Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 Most would say Shuler but to me it's Andre Johnson. I still think after 1995 he should've been the starter. Howard certaily warrants consideration but Johnson was an all out bust who never played a down and considering we could've had a spitting image of John Riggins named Mike Alstott, that is painful. I'd put Patrick Ramsey or Carlos Rogers on this list before I put Westbrook. Too bad he tore his knee in 2000 because he was finally discovering his talent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thirtyfive2seven Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 A 'franchise' QB costs more than any other permission in all regards. How long did the Skins have to pay that man for his horrible services? He was awful. Period. He set the Redskins back years. There weren't that many QB's taken in that draft at all. Maybe it would have been a better idea to get another position? Or hell, what about Dilfer? I'm just saying that compared to Tackle, WR, RB, whatever, pick a position. It doesn't cost a franchise as much as a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjfootballer Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 Shuler. A QB bust in the top 5 sets the franchise back for 5 years or more then other positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GetWrecked Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 Shuler. A QB bust in the top 5 sets the franchise back for 5 years or more then other positions. No doubt about that one. You can afford to miss on a linebacker, or a receiver. But that QB man, it's a whole different monster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boss_Hogg Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 I gotta go with that dumass QB from 1994. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiro Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 Shuler. No contest. Nothing hurts a franchise more than a bust at QB. Especially a high pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morpheusmeyers Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 Too close to call between Howard, Shuler, and A Johnson. If I remember right we actually had two 1st round picks the year we chose Howard. Ours which was the last pick in the 1st round, and a top 10 pick we aquired via a trade. I'm pretty sure we gave up both 1sts to move up a couple slots to take Howard. So not only was Howard a top 10 bust, but he actually cost us two 1st rounders that year. And the pick itself was silly, since we still had Monk, Clark, and Sanders on the team. So Howard was picked to be a #4 receiver. Hard not to pick Shuler outright, though. I heard a story a few years ago that Norv Turner and an assistant coach were talking in practice not long after Shuler arrived in camp and after watching Shuler and Gus practice they admitted that they may have made a bad pick in HS. Basically, HS looked like the 7th round pick, not Gus. And HS royally stunk it up in the games he played in. Then there's Andre Johnson who was so bad he couldn't even make the field. A 3 way tie. The amazing thing is that Howard, Heath, and A Johnson were all drafted within a 5 year period. And you've got Michael Westbrook tossed into that period as well. 1992-1996 is among the worst 5 year periods any team has ever had in drafting 1st round picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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