GaryGreenMonk Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 Gotta be Gabbert if we are moving up. Means either the Panthers don't want a QB so someone else is willing to swap with us.. or the Panthers are taking our 2nd so we can move for Gabbert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elkabong82 Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 I wonder who the #1 guy will be if we stay at 10. Based solely off what I think the teams ahead of us will do, I think the top players available when we pick will be: QB: Mallet, Locker, Dalton WR: Jones DL: Watt, Jordan OLB: Aldon Smith, Bowers CB: Amukamara, Smith I think our board may be: Bowers/A. Smith, Jones, Watt, Amukamara, Jordan, Smith. I think QB we may try to use a 2nd next year with our current 2nd this year to move up to the low 1st ahead of the teams like Buff, AZ, Carolina, Cincy who pick ahead of us and may not have taken QB in the 1st, depending on if the QB we really want is there. I don't think Quinn nor Gabbert will fall to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tris Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 1) What have they discovered about Gabbert or Newton that makes them think they are more worthy of a trade up now than yesterday/last week/last month? 2) Would we really trade up for a non-QB considering how many needs we have? This makes no sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpumd Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 I don't see any way it would be Newton, maybe Blaine.... but I don't think we'd give up our #41 either, so not sure what we could be offering to whom..... I don't see any way it would be Newton either, but I'm still scared of the possibility. I don't think Gabbert is worth trading up for. I think Newton's potential ceiling (although I say 99% chance he never reaches that ceiling) is higher than Gabbert's, which makes me think there's a chance some team would trade up for him. Hopefully not us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryGreenMonk Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 If your Bruce Allen... you gotta ask yourself too.. is a top QB pick this draft going to fall into a new rookie pay cap under the new CBA. Cause if not.. going forward, you would have the most expensive rookie QB in the league from that point on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jivelikenice Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 Ok, now I'm scared we're trading for Newton. If we're moving up, I'd rather it be for Newton than Gabbert. Gabbert came off like he had zero personality in the Gruden special and I really question his arm. They both are question marks IMO so if we're going to move up (which I'd rather not do), then i'd rather swing for the fences..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheismannQuote Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 Don't forget, my friends, that we just about had whiplash last year when we were expecting Eric Berry to be the pick on draft day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
authentic Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 LOL - Not laughing at you. I am laughing because I asked what the number 1 option was and had about 10 posts saying Quinn like I was a dumbass for asking. Thursday night is going to be very interesting. Thanks again for posting LL56 I don't know why this post is so funny. Dude I don't think anyone was treating you like you were stupid.. There's alot of info being tossed out here, and its a bit hard to keep up with it. Everyone is trying to make sense of what's going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clutch03 Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 While reading this thread the tagline for MTV's Diary gets stuck in my head "You think you know but you have no idea". I can tell all the speculation is killing a lot of you. Shanahan is a funny guy he really has made this into an art. I've given up trying to figure it all out I'm just along for the ride! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
authentic Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 Don't forget, my friends, that we just about had whiplash last year when we were expecting Eric Berry to be the pick on draft day. Really? I thought we were a lock to land Okung. :whoknows: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elkabong82 Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 Gotta be Gabbert if we are moving up.Means either the Panthers don't want a QB so someone else is willing to swap with us.. or the Panthers are taking our 2nd so we can move for Gabbert. wouldn't necessarily be the Panthers. We only need to move ahead of the threats to take Gabbert, if he's our guy. I think Cincy will take Gabbert at 4, but I think Buffalo won't go for him. However, I don't think Buffalo will move from their spot either without a king's ransom since they are in a prime spot. I think Denver is the team we trade with, if we move up to take Gabbert. Denver would still be able to take Watt/Jordan, Amukamara, or Lieuget. Plus I don't think we have the ammo to move to 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawyer5500 Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 Don't forget, my friends, that we just about had whiplash last year when we were expecting Eric Berry to be the pick on draft day. That was a weird last minute smokescreen. I still expected it to be Trent though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryGreenMonk Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 wouldn't necessarily be the Panthers. We only need to move ahead of the threats to take Gabbert, if he's our guy. I think Cincy will take Gabbert at 4, but I think Buffalo won't go for him. However, I don't think Buffalo will move from their spot either without a king's ransom since they are in a prime spot. I think Denver is the team we trade with, if we move up to take Gabbert. Denver would still be able to take Watt/Jordan, Amukamara, or Lieuget. Plus I don't think we have the ammo to move to 1. yeah i hear ya and was thinking the same. But what if you trade up with Denver to specifically get Gabbert and the Panthers take him. oops. I think if you want a specific guy you have to move to the spot you know you can definitely get him without question. So unless you're o.k. with Gabbert or Newton.. either or.. you'd have to trade w/ the Panthers and not Denver. Or you'd have to know for sure that the Panthers weren't taking a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elkabong82 Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 Really? I thought we were a lock to land Okung. :whoknows: I remember a lot thought it would be Berry for a while leading up to the draft, but I also remember the week leading to the draft it was almost consensus we'd be taking OL, either Trent or Okung, and for that week it seemed most draft discussions were over which one we'd take, which of the two is better for the team, etc. Those who said we'd go with Trent because of his potential over the refined, more ready to go but lower ceiling Okung, citing Shanny's love of player potential, were correct. ---------- Post added April-25th-2011 at 03:22 PM ---------- yeah i hear ya and was thinking the same. But what if you trade up with Denver to specifically get Gabbert and the Panthers take him. oops. I think if you want a specific guy you have to move to the spot you know you can definitely get him without question. So unless you're o.k. with Gabbert or Newton.. either or.. you'd have to trade w/ the Panthers and not Denver. Or you'd have to know for sure that the Panthers weren't taking a QB. You don't make the trade until after Carolina makes their pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lavarleap56 Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 Just meant tune in early. Draft is going to be exciting/debated no matter who is selected and its something besides a lockout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GibbsFactor Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 Just meant tune in early. Draft is going to be exciting/debated no matter who is selected and its something besides a lockout. Tune in early...ier? Dareus, just give me Dareus!!! But alas, get those #2 jerseys going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elkabong82 Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 despite talking about it, I highly doubt we trade up from 10 in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinC Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 Just meant tune in early. Draft is going to be exciting/debated no matter who is selected and its something besides a lockout. It's that time of year when the simplest comment can be taken out of context and suddenly panic ensues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.T.real,lights,out Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 Just meant tune in early. Draft is going to be exciting/debated no matter who is selected and its something besides a lockout. Thats mean man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lavarleap56 Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 Thats mean man! Or not, just tune in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.T.real,lights,out Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 Or not, just tune in Ohhkkkkkkk! :kickcan: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c4man5282 Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 Thanks for the heads up LL. Will be tuning in early now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Godfather Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 Or not, just tune in Make me! :kungfu: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truant Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 Kick back and enjoy the lead up to the draft, people! Even if we knew what the goal was we'd then obsess about how much we'd gain/lose in a trade, what other teams will do, etc... It's nice to not think about the lockout. Not sold? Fine. The front office got around to reading ASF's post and we're moving up for McElroy. Book it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtdrums Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 I love the stuff from LL and TK and J... ...but now I'm thoroughly mind-screwed. Mission accomplished, smokie. Been reading some "rogue scout" -- funny how he's not sold on Gabbert *or* Newton (calls them both backups) and loves Locker. Thinks Locker is going to the Vikes. Of course, he also likes Kaepernick a lot, and I can't figure that -- the dude's game film was just ugly to me from a throwing perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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