DRSmith Posted April 8, 2011 Share Posted April 8, 2011 Unofficial returns on Wednesday gave the union-backed challenger, JoAnne Kloppenburg, a narrow 204 vote statewide lead over Republican David Prosser. But late Thursday, the county clerk in Waukesha, a Republican stronghold, said workers had found 7,582 votes uncounted votes for Prosser. The apparent clerical error in Waukesha is sure to subject Nickolaus and her office to public scrutiny -- for the second time in less than a year. Last fall, the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel newspaper reported the Waukesha County Board had ordered an audit of Nickolaus's office, citing concerns about the integrity of the equipment she used he backup system. The newspaper said the move came after Nickolaus removed the election results collection and tallying system from the county computer network last spring and installed it on standalone personal computers in her office. The newspaper quoted an official saying Nickolaus had been "uncooperative with attempts to have information technologists review the system and confirm the backups." http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/04/08/us-wisconsin-election-idUSTRE7350J920110408 I wonder if this will have the same outrage as the New Black Panthers sitting outside a voting station Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted April 8, 2011 Share Posted April 8, 2011 Outrage?...Is it comparable in any conceivable way? That article is a disgrace to RUETERS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRSmith Posted April 8, 2011 Author Share Posted April 8, 2011 Yet today on Fox and where ever one could right wing pundits were declaring last nights results were the result of fraud and now you have thousands votes just show up and nothing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted April 8, 2011 Share Posted April 8, 2011 You would think Reuters would mention how they (votes for both candidates) were" found'....or the thread starter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoVaO Posted April 8, 2011 Share Posted April 8, 2011 It sounds more like human error, but I think it makes the county clerk (Nickolaus), who has had problems before, appear incompetent. And I'm sure it's incredibly frustrating for Democrats to lose an election like this. Nevertheless, it was an impressive showing that I think bodes well for Dems in the future, at least over the next couple of years. They came within inches of voting out an incumbent court justice (only done once in the last 40 or so years) who should have won his race between 20 - 30 points. Turnout was high on both sides, but the Demographics of those who turn out in Spring elections very much favor Republicans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsburySkinsFan Posted April 8, 2011 Share Posted April 8, 2011 So let me see if I understand this, a Democrat apparently wins an election and then suddenly from a Republican stronghold 7,000 ballots appear from a clerk's office who has already been under investigation regarding, "integrity of the equipment she used he backup system", and has been "uncooperative with attempts to have information technologists review the system and confirm the backups"? Hmmm, what reason is there that we should immediately think that these ballots are legitimate? ---------- Post added April-8th-2011 at 07:41 AM ---------- Yet today on Fox and where ever one could right wing pundits were declaring last nights results were the result of fraud and now you have thousands votes just show up and nothing? Yeah, it certainly smells rotten. who has had problems before, appear incompetent. Incompetent is the most polite thing that can be said regarding how this makes the clerk appear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRSmith Posted April 8, 2011 Author Share Posted April 8, 2011 I watched her presser, first off she was reading a statement, nothing about her seemed natural in connection with this, now all day long there was talk of fraud and voter irregularities and then you have this and the same voices that were all upset go quiet, seems to me there should be others that should be able to verify this and I guess it does not hurt that the guy who hired her is the guy she found votes for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted April 8, 2011 Share Posted April 8, 2011 apparently you do not understand it. a whole town's results were not reported initially...I do agree on the incompetent part though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRSmith Posted April 8, 2011 Author Share Posted April 8, 2011 I wonder what she was involved in here? Nickolaus was given immunity from prosecution in a 2002 criminal investigation into illegal activity by members of the Republican Assembly caucus, where she worked as a data analyst and computer specialist http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2014715459_wisconsin08.html It may be an honest mistake but here is the problem when the people who look after these things have party allegiances, a history of problems and people spent the entire day crying how corrupt the election process was Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homercles82 Posted April 8, 2011 Share Posted April 8, 2011 who should have won his race between 20 - 30 points. Says who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpyaks3 Posted April 8, 2011 Share Posted April 8, 2011 Says who? History. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bang Posted April 8, 2011 Share Posted April 8, 2011 This is becoming an all-too-usual occurence in our elections lately. Sounds mighty fishy. And frankly, in our political discussions, candidates and campaign supporters have been hung out to dry with much LESS connection to wrongdoing.. (or even no connection to wrongdoing) Possible subversion is not to be questioned if it benefits our side. Hallelujah. Glad to see that the love of our country's ideals among our members is still unmarred by the stain of partisnanship. ~Barf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aREDSKIN Posted April 8, 2011 Share Posted April 8, 2011 Just recount to verify this clerks' claims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teller Posted April 8, 2011 Share Posted April 8, 2011 I wonder if this will have the same outrage as the New Black Panthers sitting outside a voting station How are the two situations comparable at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bang Posted April 8, 2011 Share Posted April 8, 2011 How are the two situations comparable at all? They both subvert our process. ~Bang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyDave Posted April 8, 2011 Share Posted April 8, 2011 Sniveling because the union backed liberal might have lost a chance to use judicial activism to regain Collective bargaining for government Teachers unions? And gasp actually put some of their money into something that benefits them and relieves the tax burden on residents of that state? The votes are going to be counted and verified next week to see if there are irregularities. Its not like liberal places cough, chicago, New Jersey where the dead, incarcerated, or illegal aliens vote early and often or a bag of votes magically appears out of nowhere to help out team jackass. Heck left wingers actually have had the gall to claim that expecting people to show ID before voting is racist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted April 8, 2011 Share Posted April 8, 2011 Just recount to verify this clerks' claims. You mean the votes witnessed and verified by Dems?....already done,error caught by basic census The only story here is early unofficial vote totals were reported wrong....and the Dems claiming victory before the official totals were in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABQCOWBOY Posted April 8, 2011 Share Posted April 8, 2011 Pretty significant turn of events. http://blogs.forbes.com/rickungar/2011/04/07/prosser-takes-lead-in-wisconsin-after-discovery-of-lost-votes/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsburySkinsFan Posted April 8, 2011 Share Posted April 8, 2011 http://www.extremeskins.com/showthread.php?345906-Lost-An-Election-Let-Me-Help-You-Find-Votes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimboDaMan Posted April 8, 2011 Share Posted April 8, 2011 Where are the right wingers screaming about how "finding" new votes = election stealing? Significant in how the supposedly non-partisan Supreme Court conducts upcoming business. No difference at all as a referendum on Walker. From the article: this would give Prosser 50.25 percent of the vote compared to the 99 plus percent he achieved during his last run when he was unopposed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostofSparta Posted April 8, 2011 Share Posted April 8, 2011 Because that's exactly what needs to happen right now in Wisconsin, fraud and/or incompetence. Somebody ****ed up big time, and there needs to be repercussions. Just when you think things can't possibly get any more stressful for that state, somebody decides to turn it up to 11. :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABQCOWBOY Posted April 8, 2011 Share Posted April 8, 2011 Where are the right wingers screaming about how "finding" new votes = election stealing?Significant in how the supposedly non-partisan Supreme Court conducts upcoming business. No difference at all as a referendum on Walker. From the article: Te be honest, I don't think this was a case of "Finding New Votes". This appears to be a case of votes not being reported. By all accounts, the votes were valid but I do agree that this business of votes seemingly always being found post count is getting very old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baculus Posted April 9, 2011 Share Posted April 9, 2011 According to ThinkProgress, the county clerk responsible for this supposed gaffe not only worked for Prosser, the judge whose position is at stake, but she has been previously investigated for questionable behavior: "Nickolaus Was Audited After She Moved Official Data To Her Personal Computers: Her county’s Executive Committee ordered an audit of her office after they discovered that she 'removed the election results collection and tallying system from the county computer network . . . and installed it on standalone personal computers in her office.'" http://thinkprogress.org/2011/04/08/kathy-nickolaus-crook-or-idiot/ Personally, I don't know why anyone would have even voted for Prosser. The guy is a royal arse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted April 9, 2011 Share Posted April 9, 2011 So does anybody know, are these paper ballots, or are they just records in a computer somewhere? Edit: And who's up for a Constitutional Amendment declaring that no one is permitted to serve in the Supervisor of Elections office who has ever been employed by, volunteered for, or donated more than $1,000 to, either political Party? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted April 9, 2011 Share Posted April 9, 2011 Paper ballots,optical scanners......ya'll are amusing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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