JMS Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 1st Quarter ratings due out next week are believed to show Beck has lost more than 30% of his total viewership vs. 2010 and nearly 40% of the core 25-54 demo... Number of advertisers now boycotting Beck's show closing in on 400... The boycot started after Beck called President Obama racist. http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/23/business/media/23beck.html?_r=1 Glenn Beck Contemplates Starting Own Channel The possibility that Glenn Beck will exit the Fox News Channel at the end of the year has prompted a big question in media circles: if he leaves, how will he bring his considerable audience with him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teller Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 I'd be more likely to watch that than OWN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lombardi's_kid_brother Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 Glenn Beck's advertisers are laughable. It's like something you would find on a show aired on an independent channel at 1 AM. Lots of people trying to get you to buy and sell gold. It reminds me of when Opie and Anthony were the "hot" new radio show and their main sponsor was apparently "Horny Goat Weed." You can usually tell the long-term health of a show by its advertisers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Excuses Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 I'd be down for it as long as every TV show host on that channel wears a tin foil hat. It would basically be the political equivalent of the history channel. Spewing a bunch of nonsense conspiracies without assessing or notifying the public of every angle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homercles82 Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 Glenn Beck's advertisers are laughable. It's like something you would find on a show aired on an independent channel at 1 AM. Lots of people trying to get you to buy and sell gold.It reminds me of when Opie and Anthony were the "hot" new radio show and their main sponsor was apparently "Horny Goat Weed." You can usually tell the long-term health of a show by its advertisers. The gold buying ads are on every talk radio station nowadays. If you went by that assumption then every talk show host would be in dire straits. I guess the key thing he needs to figure out is why he is losing viewers. People I know who watch his show love him. I have watched it a couple times but didn't really get anything out of it. I totally tuned him out when he started claiming he was prophetic and indirectly saying he was on a mission from God as His prophet to warn us of the coming collapse of America, and the rise of socialism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lombardi's_kid_brother Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 The gold buying ads are on every talk radio station nowadays. If you went by that assumption then every talk show host would be in dire straits. Those shows run on shoe-string budgets and make their money off mass syndication. G. Gordon Liddy makes his living by selling an hour of his show to air at 2 in the morning on a tiny radio station in the Badlands of the Dakotas. That's how he can claim 400 radio stations or whatever. Glenn Beck personally doesn't need advertisers to make a living. The Glenn Beck Show on Fox is essentially an infomercial for Glenn Beck Enterprises. He makes his money from his radio show, book sales, lectures, etc. The problem is "What is Fox getting from Beck right now?" Major advertisers boycott them and his ratings are slipping to the point that they can't even charge the podunk advertisers that much. FYI: Rush Limbaugh's advertising system is somewhat ingenious and also the most whoreish thing I've ever heard. He has normal rates for a 30-second or 60-second add. But then there is a higher cost for a live read - which is standard. Here is the kicker - for a premium price, Limbaugh will incorporate your product into one of his monologues. So, if you ever wonder why he is talking about how he does not think Obama when he falls asleep at night on top of his Select Comfort mattress, it's because he is a whore and they are paying him to say that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 What would happen if you put the Glenn Beck (everything bad is a conspiracy of the left!) and Hugo Chaves (everything bad is a conspiracy of the right!) on an island for one month? Would they kill eachother or forge new conspiracy theories that have never been imagined due to the lack of a single human brains inability to contain enough crazy force to conjure it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nerm Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 What would happen if you put the Glenn Beck (everything bad is a conspiracy of the left!) and Hugo Chaves (everything bad is a conspiracy of the right!) on an island for one month? Would they kill eachother or forge new conspiracy theories that have never been imagined due to the lack of a single human brains inability to contain enough crazy force to conjure it. I was thinking that Beck and Keith Olberman could do a crossfire type show. That would be a freakshow that would be fun to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterMP Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 Beck's radio show has been dropped in Philly and NY. http://www.politico.com/blogs/onmedia/0111/New_York_radio_station_drops_Glenn_Beck.html http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/attytood/Beck_Hannity_dumped_in_Philly.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wantarace17 Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 beck vs stewart...that would be entertainment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 I was thinking that Beck and Keith Olberman could do a crossfire type show. That would be a freakshow that would be fun to watch. That would be good! I'd also give them American Gladiator style tennis ball cannons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headexplode Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 I wish he'd go to the bottom of the English Channel. Goodnight, folks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 I wish he'd go to the bottom of the English Channel. Goodnight, folks! ....and take everyone who has ever liked/defended him on his descent to that dark cold watery socialistic destination (tip your servers). I think even the amazing (but profitably strategic/marketing brilliant) clown circus that Fox news is has actually figured out that Beck is in such widespread ridicule that his frothing antics weaken their standing even among their well-chosen (retarded) demographic. Maybe this hopefully-damned doofus has truly hurdled the prime oceanic predator. :pfft: ---------- Post added March-23rd-2011 at 09:58 AM ---------- That would be good! I'd also give them American Gladiator style tennis ball cannons. :ols::ols: What I was thinking just now about those two cretins was too harsh to post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan T. Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 If he starts his own channel, I assume he'd have a shoestring budget... the only thing that could make Beck's show more entertaining would be really cheap, cheesy production values. Think Glenn Beck on public access TV - bad lighting, creaky set, bad camera angles, sketchy sound. Please do it Glenn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMS Posted March 23, 2011 Author Share Posted March 23, 2011 That would be good! I'd also give them American Gladiator style tennis ball cannons. No no no.... they should face each other on a log with pugilist sticks suspended over a vat of water both wearing suits made entirely out of alka seltzer tablets. That's really the only suitable venue for such an epic confrontation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lombardi's_kid_brother Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 Is there anything in the "Left-wing" media equivalent to Beck? Olbermann was just your run of the mill, reactionary left-winger. Who on the Left has recreated human history for their own purposes, has found a dark conspiracy in every corner of the government, and has presented these ideas with the messianic fervor of a true 12-stepper - who also happens to be Morman? Beck is like something out an Alan Moore comic book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMS Posted March 23, 2011 Author Share Posted March 23, 2011 Is there anything in the "Left-wing" media equivalent to Beck? Olbermann was just your run of the mill' date=' reactionary left-winger.Who on the Left has recreated human history for their own purposes, has found a dark conspiracy in every corner of the government, and has presented these ideas with the messianic fervor of a true 12-stepper - who also happens to be Morman? Beck is like something out an Alan Moore comic book.[/quote'] Father Coughlin? "I have dedicated my life to fight against the heinous rottenness of modern capitalism because it robs the laborer of this world's goods. But blow for blow I shall strike against Communism, because it robs us of the next world's happiness." He was to FDR what Glenn Beck was to George Bush....... Ultimately though Father Coughlin turned on FDR as not being liberal enough, not going far enough with the new deal. Coughlin also strongly objected to America's involvement in WWII. To which the administration used the power of the government to silence his radio show and ultimately silence Father Coughlin. He was the first modern instance of Rush and Beck, a wildly popular spokesman for the common man. Coughlin was arguable more powerful than either of his two modern protege's. His office received up to 80,000 letters per week from listeners, and his listening audience was estimated to rise at times to as much as a third of the nation. Only Coughlin philosophically was on the left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lombardi's_kid_brother Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 Father Coughlin? He was to FDR what Glenn Beck was to George Bush....... Ultimately though Father Coughlin turned on FDR as not being liberal enough, not going far enough with the new deal. To which the administration used the power of the government to silence his radio show and ultimately silence Father Coughlin. Good answer, thought I was thinking in modern terms. Coughlin was at his peak in the mid 20s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 Is there anything in the "Left-wing" media equivalent to Beck? Not really in terms of audience size. I struggle to find current and equally significant left-wing moronic influences that are as pedal-to-the-metal on full retard as the voluminous group representing the right-wing morons (because I believe one can be "fair and balanced" :pfft: in even harsh assessments). This forum can appear like that, too, these days. When I first joined, it was the left that was dominating the idiot side of things (as long as you didn't count three distinct members of that time). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMS Posted March 23, 2011 Author Share Posted March 23, 2011 Good answer' date=' thought I was thinking in modern terms. Coughlin was at his peak in the mid 20s.[/quote']Think his peak was in the early 1930's at the height of the Depression. The Roosevelt administration got him thrown off the air in 1939 with the legal position that he had the right to freedom of speach, but not the right to use the public airwaves or US postal service to distribute his speech. This severly limited Coughlin's ability to get his message out. He was removed from the political arena by the Catholic church in May of 1942. His American first isolationist message hit serious rough patch after WWII began because it was equated with being sympathetic to the enemy. He was ordered to confine himself to his duties as a parish priest or risk being defrocked.by the archbishop of Detroit. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Coughlin#Cancellation_of_radio_show Coughlin complied and remained the pastor of the Shrine of the Little Flower until retiring in 1966. Coughlin refused most interview opportunities, and continued to write pamphlets blaming Jews for Communism until his death in Bloomfield Hills, Michigan, in 1979, at the age of 88 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nerm Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 No no no.... they should face each other on a log with pugilist sticks suspended over a vat of water both wearing suits made entirely out of alka seltzer tablets. That's really the only suitable venue for such an epic confrontation. How about a debate show with Beck and Olberman... that also includes a impartial moderator from factcheck.org who can send a strong electric shock to either of them if they say something that is untrue or misleading? I would pay to watch that. ---------- Post added March-23rd-2011 at 12:51 PM ---------- Is there anything in the "Left-wing" media equivalent to Beck? Olbermann was just your run of the mill' date=' reactionary left-winger.Who on the Left has recreated human history for their own purposes, has found a dark conspiracy in every corner of the government, and has presented these ideas with the messianic fervor of a true 12-stepper - who also happens to be Morman? Beck is like something out an Alan Moore comic book.[/quote'] One common trait that I see with Beck and Olberman is that they seem to truly believe that "the other side" is evil and that their policies are implemented in a deliberate attempt to destroy good people. They don't seem to be able to comprehend that there can be differing thoughts on policy without evil intentions. Beck's conspiracy theories do tend to be more far fetched than Olberman's though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karmacop Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 Beck already operates in his own alternate reality, so he might as well have his own TV show too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsburySkinsFan Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 Is there anything in the "Left-wing" media equivalent to Beck? Olbermann was just your run of the mill' date=' reactionary left-winger.[/quote']A modern Leftist who mirrors Beck in terms of following, national recognition, attention paid by politicians, platform, number of defenders, and his antics....no one even comes close. Olbermann was the closest thing offered but even he is but a shadow of Beck's circus act. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMS Posted March 23, 2011 Author Share Posted March 23, 2011 Good answer' date=' thought I was thinking in modern terms. Coughlin was at his peak in the mid 20s.[/quote']There are no modern famous liberal voices on the scale of Beck or Rush. There hasn't been a liberal President since LBJ in the 1960's. The closest thing you could get to even a famous liberal would be Elenor Cliff of Newsweek or Lawrence O'Donnell of CNN. And those guys aren't nearly on the scale or name recognition as Beck or Rush. You would probable have to go to Europe, or Asia to get a famous liberal voice comparable to Rush or Beck. ---------- Post added March-23rd-2011 at 02:00 PM ---------- How about a debate show with Beck and Olberman... that also includes a impartial moderator from factcheck.org who can send a strong electric shock to either of them if they say something that is untrue or misleading? I would pay to watch that I would pay to be on the moderator switch. Still it wouldn't be very interesting. Olberman would just be yelling all the time, and Beck would be lieing. You'd pretty much have to shock them when you saw eithers lips part.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lombardi's_kid_brother Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 How about a debate show with Beck and Olberman... that also includes a impartial moderator from factcheck.org who can send a strong electric shock to either of them if they say something that is untrue or misleading? I would pay to watch that.---------- Post added March-23rd-2011 at 12:51 PM ---------- One common trait that I see with Beck and Olberman is that they seem to truly believe that "the other side" is evil and that their policies are implemented in a deliberate attempt to destroy good people. They don't seem to be able to comprehend that there can be differing thoughts on policy without evil intentions. Beck's conspiracy theories do tend to be more far fetched than Olberman's though. I think there are two huge differences between Olbermann and Beck. 1. Olberman takes facts and twists them to fit his worldview. Beck makes up facts and then twists those fictions to fit his worldview. 2. Olberman can be very sarcastic and snarky which allows you to see his manipulations a little more clearly. Beck appears to be a true believer. Olbermann is basically that cynical college history professor who challenges your pre-conceived notions; Beck is an evangelist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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