The Wicked Wop Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 He's not a true #1. Neither is Wes Welker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubble Screen Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Neither is Wes Welker. Who said he was? What's your point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wicked Wop Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 My point is the only reason people don't consider him a true #1 is because he's not 6'4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-16 CHIEF Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 No, it's because he's part of the losing culture here and he's cost us 2 games in the last 4 weeks. Dallas. Giants. Fumbles, drops, oh my! Bring him back dirt cheap as a #3, or let him walk. Get rid of this idea that he's some game changer. He isn't, well, at least for us. Now the opposing team, yes. They appreciate the gifts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseGoForTheWin Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 I'll be shocked if Moss isn't back next year. He's been too good to let go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blindlywewander Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 No, it's because he's part of the losing culture here and he's cost us 2 games in the last 4 weeks. Dallas. Giants.Fumbles, drops, oh my! Bring him back dirt cheap as a #3, or let him walk. Get rid of this idea that he's some game changer. He isn't, well, at least for us. Now the opposing team, yes. They appreciate the gifts. yeah. he, as an individual, cost us those games. i can't believe how foolish you sound. moss has made a ton of plays for the skins and has always been a consistently good player. he has drops. he has fumbles. every guy does. he has given a lot to this franchise and has put up great numbers. to even consider letting him go is a joke. and bring him back as a number 3? is that hangover from new years talking? all this hoopla about a 'legitimate number 1'. it's bs really. just because he's not 6'4 doesn't mean he isn't a number one receiver. he's the guy teams double cover. he puts up 1000 yards a season. he's been our most targeted receiver since he's been here. what else qualifies a number one? ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenspandan Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 93 catches / 1100 yards = dirt cheap #3 receiver. uhhhhhhhh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD_washingtonredskins Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 93 catches / 1100 yards = dirt cheap #3 receiver. uhhhhhhhh Dirt cheap?? What are his salary demands? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justice98 Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 You have to keep stats in perspective. The Redskins have trailed in most games this year. There was also a good stretch earlier where we couldn't run the ball at all. When you throw alot you're gonna have more receptions, etc He's had a decent year. But he's not close to being one of the best WR's in the NFL, as you're trying to make it sound. He's not a true #1. He's also cost us several games this year. Its time to cut ties with him and Portis. But you're implying that he caught most of his balls late in games, which is debatable that he caught any more late than anyone else. And I'm going to guess there isn't a stat for to verify that. And when a WR has high reception totals, that must mean the team can't run? Roddy White led the league in receptions and they ran the ball all the time. So did Houston and Andre Johnson was on par with Moss in terms of receptions relative to targets and Houston had the league's leading rusher. Now, I'm not saying Moss is in their league in general, just that your premise is flawed. ---------- Post added January-3rd-2011 at 10:17 AM ---------- I don't think you should fault Moss for not being a #1. That's not his fault, that's the team's fault. Rather than get rid of Moss for not being what he's not supposed to be, how about they get a #1 and use Moss properly? The fact is, the man's highly productive in a role he shouldn't be in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenspandan Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Dirt cheap?? What are his salary demands? i was responding to F-16 Chief's absurd comment of "Bring him back dirt cheap as a #3, or let him walk." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins_Fan82 Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 dude is fourth in the entire NFL in receptions. somewhere in the top ten in yardage and YAC. and it's not like he has brees/manning/brady throwing it to him. he puts up these kinds of numbers year in and year out. it is absurd that people think we can find that kind of talent easily. honestly, he's one of the most underrated players in the league if you look at his stats. Exactly. I don't get why some folks want him gone so badly... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truant Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Even if our WRs weren't terrible (they are) Moss is too good to let go anywhere. He's miscast as a #1 WR. Pair him with a Sidney Rice and allow Armstrong to man the slot and our WR core would be pretty exciting. Santana hasn't been perfect but NO player has been. Cooley with drops. Trent Williams with the matador. Torain with the fumbles and injuries. But to say Moss is THE reason for our struggling is ridiculous. He actually gives a damn about winning, wants to win here, and is still performing at a high level even with the QB/offensive struggles. Big love to Santana. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgundy&Gold4Ever Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 He may not be the best receiver, but he's far too good to let him go. Also, he has so much passion and heart. People like him and Fletcher are needed on this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD_washingtonredskins Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 dude is fourth in the entire NFL in receptions. somewhere in the top ten in yardage and YAC. and it's not like he has brees/manning/brady throwing it to him. he puts up these kinds of numbers year in and year out. Actually, he's put up "these kinds of numbers" one other time in his career...5 years ago. He caught 93 passes this year (a career high) and averaged 12 yard per catch. Is 1,100 yards really top-ten? I'm not saying it's not, I'm just surprised that it is. He's solid, no doubt, but do we really need to pay him to come back and put up possession receiver numbers? Nothing against Moss, but at his age, I'm not convinced that another "good" WR couldn't match his production. Very rarely did he catch the ball and do anything special with it. He generally caught short passes and ran to open field until he was contacted...occasionally catching a deep pass. Let's not also forget that he lost a couple fumbles and put an INT right into a LB's hands this year. So, 6 TDs and 3 TOs. it is absurd that people think we can find that kind of talent easily. honestly, he's one of the most underrated players in the league if you look at his stats. he'll be relatively cheap for the amount of production he brings. with him, plus armstrong (who is maturing nicely) and maybe malcolm kelly or austin, we would be in good shape to use draft picks and FA money on the myriad holes elsewhere on the roster. If he's cheap (signable for #3 WR money) then I'm OK with bringing him back. If he's looking for one last pay-day (which I would be if I were 32 and relying on speed and quickness), then I think we have to let him walk. I'm really not anti-Moss, I just think this is a classic case of Redskin fans overvaluing one of our players. He's solid/good, no doubt. But if the price isn't right, I think we have to turn the page. And, to me, we should be allowing Armstrong, Austin, and Kelly the opportunity to take over the WR position since they all have 5-6+ years ahead of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mooka Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 We basically have no WR core right now. Armstrong and Malcolm Kelly. Banks probably will stick to special teams and if Austin's not going to be our returner then I don't see a spot for him. It makes no sense to let Santana walk, but I think we may have seen the last of him in Washington. I think another team would love to have him. We should go all or nothing with the position. Land VJax or draft an AJ Green type. Other then those moves I hope we look around at the talent available around the league and let the position work itself out. Just because Galloway and Williams didn't work out doesn't mean we can't find a cheap starter in FA. Lots of talent out there. I could see our WR core be like this next year: Armstrong FA: Mark Clayton/Jacoby Jones//Sims-Walker.... etc Kelly Rookie/Soph: Austin or a rookie Banks As sad as that looks on paper, our track record with WRs has been pretty crappy. WR moves scare me. Wouldn't be surprised to see another 2nd round pick bust or a FA like Brayon Edwards be another huge mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 Actually, he's put up "these kinds of numbers" one other time in his career...5 years ago. Nope, he put up "these kinds of numbers" 2 years ago in 2008...came damn close to doing it last year...and did it with the Jets as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiebear Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 Moss has been a lighthouse in my many years of Redskins darkness. our 3 receiver set RIGHT NOW.. is good enough to spend picks on everything esle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubble Screen Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 My point is the only reason people don't consider him a true #1 is because he's not 6'4. No, its because most teams' true #1's are GOOD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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