shuler74 Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 A healthy starting five is pretty good but I think our main problem is our bench. our bench is filled with young and inexperienced players, where most teams bench are filled with veterans and maybe 1 or 2 young players buried on the bench. We dont need to keep drafting a lot of young players, we ned to use our draft pick and get one player and get rid of ves, seraphin and replace them with some vets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Refs blew that call, that was a clean block. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiCkSoULjA Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Wall got too stop those stupid reactions, yeah it was a clean block but it was close and do you have too have a fit after every call? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 In a sick way, I have grown to love watching Ariza play offense. You literally never know what he's going to do. He's replaced Crawford as the teams King of the "no, no, no, YES" shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmzznnxx Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 That was a horrible sequence for Wall. Bad pass for turnover, doesn't even contest for the rebound, wildly streaks down the court with nothing to show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Wall is a little out of control late. Needs to calm down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkFan8 Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 I could name 15 PGs I'd rather have on this team right now than Wall. What a hideous turnover after that huge Beal three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Wall is a little out of control late. Needs to calm down. Yup. He's had a good game too, I'd hate for him to spoil it. In other news, Beal is the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 In other news, Beal is the truth. The double truth, Ruth. ---------- Post added March-1st-2013 at 09:25 PM ---------- Disappointed in Wall's defense on Felton tonight. ---------- Post added March-1st-2013 at 09:28 PM ---------- 29pts & 11 rebs for Beal. The young pup is growing already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Too many late turnovers spoiled this one. Great game by Beal. Singleton and Booker did nothing, Wall is back to his mostly positive game + too many turnovers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 (edited) Wall is a little out of control late. Needs to calm down. He's trying to damn hard, which especially tonight was unneccesary. Beal was having a career night, he should've been given the ball more. Still no excuse for the team as a whole missing that many free throws, almost bigger reason why we lost. We had the knicks with no fouls to give with more then six minutes left in the game. Wall didn't have much of any turnovers until the end of the game. There are sometimes he seems like he's trying to meet the expectations of being a #1 overall pick. There's pressure there, man, the heart is there, he definitely gives a **** about winning versus losing. He needs someone to talk to, really he does. This team doesn't need more inexperienced talent. They need veterans. Edited March 2, 2013 by Renegade7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Man we really struggle without Nene. We can't win without Wall, can't win without Nene, soon getting to the point where we won't be able to win without Beal. We're reed thin. We don't have legitimate big man size and skils behind Nene and Okafor. Seraphin has gotten soft and was never that long to begin with. Ves is a stick. Booker is short. Singleton is a re-purposed SF. None of them except Seraphin are particularly good at multiple things. I want a good big man out of this draft pretty bad. At least Beal had a game. He's special. Eventually you all aren't going to think I'm crazy for saying we're better off having kept Beal instead of trading him for Harden. I think Beal ends up being a better all around player than Harden: better athlete/smarter player/better defender. Think of how good OKC would be if they had Beal. We basically would have made them a long term juggernaut. He would probably be their starter right now. Beal was so much bigger of a price to pay than what Houston gave up for Harden. A year of Kevin Martin, Jeremy Lamb, and Toronto's bottom of the lottery pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
endzone_dave Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Wall is trying too hard because he wants to be an all-start but just isn't good enough for that. The guy can't shoot and the other teams know it. He's a 16 points / 8 assist guy which isn't bad but Wall is trying to play beyond that and he can't. Maybe he's seeing how good Beal is becoming and is feeling pressured to be as good. He needs to give up on that and just be a solid point guard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Excuses Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Watched the game last night. Brad Beal is ridiculously good for a 19 year old. I think he may already be a better player than Wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Watched the game last night. Brad Beal is ridiculously good for a 19 year old. I think he may already be a better player than Wall. Agreed. Beal will be a legit All-Star. I don't think Wall will ever be better than a 16/8 guy like someone else mentioned. That's not bad, but ultimately disappointing for a 1/1 pick. By the way, your sig is amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 (edited) Agreed. Beal will be a legit All-Star. I don't think Wall will ever be better than a 16/8 guy like someone else mentioned. That's not bad, but ultimately disappointing for a 1/1 pick.By the way, your sig is amazing. I wouldn't automatically call 16/8 by a pg disappointing for a #1 pick. It depends on the how the stats are acquired. The more important stat with Wall is turnovers, we can't live with the 5+ a game we've been getting recently. 16/8 in a game in which he has full control of the tempo of the offense is damn good. From 2005-06 to current: http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/psl_finder.cgi?request=1&match=single&type=per_game&per_minute_base=36&lg_id=NBA&is_playoffs=N&year_min=2006&year_max=2013&franch_id=&season_start=1&season_end=-1&age_min=0&age_max=99&height_min=0&height_max=99&birth_country_is=Y&birth_country=&is_active=&is_hof=&is_as=&as_comp=gt&as_val=&pos_is_g=Y&pos_is_gf=Y&pos_is_f=Y&pos_is_fg=Y&pos_is_fc=Y&pos_is_c=Y&pos_is_cf=Y&qual=&c1stat=pts_per_g&c1comp=gt&c1val=16&c2stat=ast_per_g&c2comp=gt&c2val=8&c3stat=&c3comp=gt&c3val=&c4stat=&c4comp=gt&c4val=&c5stat=&c5comp=gt&c6mult=1.0&c6stat=&order_by=pts_per_g 16/8 puts you in some pretty elite company Edited March 2, 2013 by StillUnknown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 If John could go 16 & 8 with efficiency while playing great defense, that's an AS PG that you can contend with. He needs to get better defensively. He needs to be an elite defender because he's got the tools to do it. He would be tremendously valuable if he did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 (edited) Wall needs to decide how bad he wants to be a star this off season. He's been the same player for three years and that's not going to change until swallows his pride and decides to change things. Edited March 2, 2013 by Destino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins199021 Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 His jumpshot has improved though. You can see it in his free throws. I really think he just has a major confidence issue with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 (edited) His jumpshot has improved though. You can see it in his free throws. I really think he just has a major confidence issue with it. Can't tell much about jumpshots from free throws. He's shot almost the same free throw percentage every year, the jumpshot is still trash. Edited March 2, 2013 by StillUnknown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 Porter and Shabazz are on TV now. Bazz is on ESPN and Porter is on ESPNU. McLemore was on TV earlier. Let's just say he showed well. He's got a legit shot to go first overall. I hope he does too. And I hope Smart goes second and maybe we pick third and get Nerlens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins199021 Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 Based off where we will probably draft and the needs of the teams ahead of us. We are guaranteed at least one of Porter/Muhammed/Len/Noel/Bennett being there when we pick (aka guys that would fit our needs at the top of the draft) For me ranking them... 1. Noel 2. Porter 3. Bennett 4. Muhammed 5. Len I like the top 3 there especially Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 Didn't see Zeller's game but saw the highlights and the numbers. Looks like he had a great bounce back performance. 22 points on 13 shots, 10 rebounds, 2 steals, and 3 blocks. I'm at the point where the only bigs I really really want are Noel and Zeller. I just don't trust Austin or Len. I can see their talents and appreciate their potential on an intellectual level. But too often when I watch them my gut says stay away. I have trouble seeing them succeed here. I would draft Porter over them and I doubt we'll be drafting below Porter's floor. Unless he stays in school. ---------- Post added March-2nd-2013 at 10:10 PM ---------- Based off where we will probably draft and the needs of the teams ahead of us.We are guaranteed at least one of Porter/Muhammed/Len/Noel/Bennett being there when we pick (aka guys that would fit our needs at the top of the draft) For me ranking them... 1. Noel 2. Porter 3. Bennett 4. Muhammed 5. Len I like the top 3 there especially My ranking would be: Noel Zeller Muhammad Porter Bennett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 (edited) Have you guys been checking NBA.com's rookie ladder? Beal is siting at #2. Behind Lillard and in front of Waiters. Harrison Barnes on the other hand has fallen out of the top ten. They update it a lot Edited March 3, 2013 by Destino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperBash Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 Any one of the Porter/Shabazz/Noel/Zeller/Bennett will make me happy. I feel like it HAS to be one of those 5 guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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