NFL.Com: Redskins DT Haynesworth limited in practice with bad ankle

[Conn]

I personally think you should have sat him down and said look if you want to buy into this you're welcome here... if not STFU and we'll trade you

That's exactly what DID happen. And he took the 28 Million dollar bonus anyways, and continued to act like this. Its why its such a large problem in the first place.

Who wants to be that the Jets defense doesn't look very bland now that Jenkins is gone for the year?

Mike

Not me. They did fine without him last year as a defense, as he was injured for most of the year then as well.

[Texanmike]

That's exactly what DID happen. And he took the 28 Million dollar bonus anyways, and continued to act like this. Its why its such a large problem in the first place.

Not me. They did fine without him last year as a defense, as he was injured for most of the year then as well.

Their defense wasn't as good afterwards. The only teams they played pre-injury that they also played post injury were NE and Miami. Before they held Brady and co to 9 pts. After the Injury the Pats put up 31 pts. They gave up 31 to Miami before and 30 after.

The only offensive powerhouse they played after that was Indy (remember the pull the starters in the 2nd half) and Cincy (also layed down for the game).

The teams their defense showed up against were:

OAK

MIA

JAC

NE

CAR

BUF

TB

ATL

IND

CINCY

I know you can only play who you play but pre injury they held NO to 24, HOU to 7, Ten to 17, NE to 9. I don't know I'm just not much of a believer I guess.

Mike

[Slacky McSlackAss]

he probably tripped going downstairs to get a midnight snack.

[dadirtbags]

sounds like Haynesworth needs to go to hollywood (sure he is acting with this one as well) It is obvious to me that the dude doesnt want to be here...we need to trade him for a ham sandwich

[SkinFromNepal]

Actually, analysis of his play last year belies that a bit. He was better as a run stopper than as a pass rusher last year. Also, the way Jay Ratliff plays the NT position says that there are different ways to play the position. Certainly, I could see Haynesworth becoming a Ratliff-like player, IF he's able to stick it out. That is still a question mark, tho.

I think that was because he was too fat to run for QB so was standing in the middle of the field... RBs were trying to pass through him and he just stuck his fat ass or belly out and blocked them.

[BRAVEONAWARPATH]

It's unbelievable... if he could just accept it for the team and play within the scheme at NT the majority of snaps, I truly believe we'd be one of the most dominant defense's in the league right away

The problem has nothing to do with him "accepting" his role within the scheme. Imo, the problem is his "ability" to play in the scheme.

Albert Haynesworth is not a NT.

[Iced Coffee]

I am so sick of Haynesworth and all this crap, he really needs to go.

seriously the sooner the better.

[AsburySkinsFan]

OP should have read; "DT Limited in Practice Because He's a Lazy Bum."

[BornToHail]

The problem has nothing to do with him "accepting" his role within the scheme. Imo, the problem is his "ability" to play in the scheme.

Albert Haynesworth is not a NT.

At least not the way he's been playing it when inserted as such. Well put BoaW

[TheLongshot]

I think that was because he was too fat to run for QB so was standing in the middle of the field... RBs were trying to pass through him and he just stuck his fat ass or belly out and blocked them.

More likely it is because of the way Blache liked to play his D-line, which is stop the run first, pass rush second.

[bikie]

"Haynesworth Limited" is all I need to read...

[Redskins Diehard]

Yeah, and we should have gotten rid of McNabb when his ankle hurt. And Moore since he is out. In fact that should be the new plan.....trade anyone that gets hurt for draft picks.

[bikie]

Yeah, and we should have gotten rid of McNabb when his ankle hurt. And Moore since he is out. In fact that should be the new plan.....trade anyone that gets hurt for draft picks.

right cause this has been an isolated incident with AH who has otherwise been a stellar teammate and exemplary player on the field...

[TSO]

The thing is he does accept the scheme...now. The problem is, all that time he wasn't here had him losing a lot of time in adjusting to his new responsibilities. He's way behind everyone else and even he admitted in preseason that he's still playing like a 4-3 DT.

BTW, he probably would be switching between NT and DE in this defense anyways. Haslett seems to like to move his DL around.

I don't know, Longshot... he might be saying he accepts it but what I'm seeing is a guy who keeps disregarding his gap responsibilities. Watch the tape... almost half the time he's in, specifically at NT, instead of holding his ground, moving laterally with the Oline and powering his way into the backfield (which Haslett specifically stated he wants from him and you can see Maake attempting to do himself every time) he tries to finesse his way between the Oline in an attempt to get to the QB. It's already happened at least 3-4 times where he was the sole reason a gaping hole was left in the middle of our defense for the RB to easily run through.

The most glaring example was on the play right after Bidwell punted an awesome punt and Westbrook did a great job downing the ball on the one yard line. Dallas lines up in what pretty much is a goal line formation, which means we probably called a run-type Defense there with PA responsibilities. What does Albert, who's lined up as the NT, do? He decides to pass rush, tries to elude the Center by finessing his way through the gap between he and the Guard. What ends up happening? He gets easily shoved aside (he pretty much asked for it) to the right of their formation and leaves a gaping hole up the middle. They gain about 8 yards and have plenty of room to operate now after being backed up. Ugh, I was livid. Either he's not focused (forgetting what he's supposed to do on the play), he's stupid (doesn't get what he's been told to do) or he's selfish (desperately wants to make a play so he can get on TV, and what better way then to cause a Safety?). Had he not done that, the run would've went for minimal yards and the Cowboys would've been forced to continue to play backed up.

If anyone can post pics of that play as it happened that would be awesome... but yeah, he keeps messing it up. That's not to say he does it every time, but it's like 50/50, no exaggeration!

[SkinFromNepal]

Yes that is true he was going sideways, but if you look at the tape closely except for couple of times, RBs were trying to run sideways instead of running towards AH (at least in that Dallas game)... they were dumb to not use that hole too often.

I don't know, Longshot... he might be saying he accepts it but what I'm seeing is a guy who keeps disregarding his gap responsibilities. Watch the tape... almost half the time he's in, specifically at NT, instead of hold his ground and power his way into the backfield which Haslett specifically stated he wants he tries to finesse his way between the Oline in an attempt to get to the QB. It's already happened at least 3-4 times where he was the sole reason a gaping hole was left in the middle of our defense for the RB to easily run through.

The most glaring example was on the play right after Bidwell punted an awesome punt and Westbrook did a great job downing the ball on the one yard line. Dallas lines up in what pretty much is a goal line formation, which means we probably called a run-type Defense there with PA responsibilities. What does Albert, who's lined up as the NT, do? He decides to pass rush, tries to elude the Center by finessing his way through the gap between he and the Guard. What ends up happening? He gets easily shoved aside (he pretty much asked for it) to the right of their formation and leaves a gaping hole up the middle. They gain about 8 yards and have plenty of room to operate now after being backed up. Ugh, I was livid.

If anyone can post pics of that play as it happened that would be awesome... but yeah, he keeps messing it up. That's not to say he does it every time, but it's like 50/50, no exaggeration!

[WhoRUSupposed2Be]

I don't know, Longshot... he might be saying he accepts it but what I'm seeing is a guy who keeps disregarding his gap responsibilities. Watch the tape... almost half the time he's in, specifically at NT, instead of hold his ground and power his way into the backfield which Haslett specifically stated he wants he tries to finesse his way between the Oline in an attempt to get to the QB. It's already happened at least 3-4 times where he was the sole reason a gaping hole was left in the middle of our defense for the RB to easily run through.

The most glaring example was on the play right after Bidwell punted an awesome punt and Westbrook did a great job downing the ball on the one yard line. Dallas lines up in what pretty much is a goal line formation, which means we probably called a run-type Defense there with PA responsibilities. What does Albert, who's lined up as the NT, do? He decides to pass rush, tries to elude the Center by finessing his way through the gap between he and the Guard. What ends up happening? He gets easily shoved aside (he pretty much asked for it) to the right of their formation and leaves a gaping hole up the middle. They gain about 8 yards and have plenty of room to operate now after being backed up. Ugh, I was livid.

If anyone can post pics of that play as it happened that would be awesome... but yeah, he keeps messing it up. That's not to say he does it every time, but it's like 50/50, no exaggeration!

I saw this play that you're referring and I like you, was hot also!

[TSO]

Yes that is true he was going sideways, but if you look at the tape closely except for couple of times, RBs were trying to run sideways instead of running towards AH (at least in that Dallas game)... they were dumb to not use that hole too often.

Teams won't be dumb for too long once they see the tape. It's clear enough for us to see it, let alone coaches who make a living studying tape to exploit weaknesses. We can't complain as to why they're not putting him in more when he keeps doing this stuff. I'm sure in his head he's telling himself "well, if they're not going to put me in that much then I'm going to make plays when I'm in just to prove them wrong" but by doing that he's creating more issues. I'd love to be a fly on the wall in one of those film sessions with our Dline coach and the guys. They can't ignore what Haynesworth is doing there because he's the direct reason for the negative that happened a bunch of times, lol.

Also, if you noticed, I felt like the Cowboys were making it a point to run whenever Al was in. It's like they knew he was going to take himself out of the play if they ran the ball. Could've been a coincidence, but every time he was in I was like "please be a pass, please be a pass" and then they'd run it and sure enough, Al screwed it up, lol.

[Redskins Diehard]

right cause this has been an isolated incident with AH who has otherwise been a stellar teammate and exemplary player on the field...

Oh that's right. AH didn't huddle up with the cornerbacks. Get rid of him. 90% of what he has "done" is nothing but a bunch of speculative BS. His teammates don't have a problem with him...why do you?

[TSO]

The problem has nothing to do with him "accepting" his role within the scheme. Imo, the problem is his "ability" to play in the scheme.

Albert Haynesworth is not a NT.

I disagree... I get the whole "body form" and the type of short and stubby physique one looks for in a NT, but Haynesworth can be a dominant one there just because of his raw power. He's not your average DT. At the very least, Haynesworth can be a massive improvement over Maake for now. If Maake isn't going to get better, or we don't find a better NT somehow, then Haynesworth is the best one on the team.

That being said, it is enticing to think how good we could be with a solid NT and Haynesworth playing at DE consistently. That may be better in the long run, but right now with our situation at NT we could be dominant on Defense if he would just accept it!

[Skin'emAlive]

More likely it is because of the way Blache liked to play his D-line, which is stop the run first, pass rush second.

Well doesnt that make your previous post hypocritical?

[Redskins Diehard]

Breaking news...Mario Williams was limited in practice also. I wonder if Texans cut him before Sunday. I am sure Trent Williams is keeping a close eye on that developing situation.

[iMeast]

Good grief.

HTTR

[TSO]

He is not a nose tackle. He is a defensive tackle. He is a pass rusher. He is not a run stopper. I wish people would get that. This is why he hasn't excelled at nose tackle. Unfortunately' date=' we don't have any good ones, so he plays that until we can get a true nt. Haynesworth can try all he wants, but he is a top 5 defensive tackle. Not a nose tackle. It will never be any different.[/quote']

How can you possibly be a defensive tackle but yet only be a pass rusher and not a run stopper, lol? That's not a DT, that's a DE. Even worse, that's a DE you put in on obvious passing situations only, basically just a specialist!

I don't think he would even agree with you there. He made a name for himself rushing the passer and disrupting his timing, sure, but he was also dominant in the run game. Wouldn't you at least agree that he's a special talent and can overcome linemen by sheer power? If so, how is that NOT what you look for in a run stopper?

[MDstar08]

The media has really gotten on my nerves. Such breaking news about Haynesworth being limited, so many players are limited 1 day or another its incredible how the media just tries to get out a story like this. :doh:

[thehogs]

all that sideline pacing, Al needs to sit down a lot more before he tires himself out