NFL.Com: Redskins DT Haynesworth limited in practice with bad ankle

[Skin'emAlive]

How can you possibly be a defensive tackle but yet only be a pass rusher and not a run stopper, lol? That's not a DT, that's a DE. Even worse, that's a DE you put in on obvious passing situations only, basically just a specialist!

I don't think he would even agree with you there. He made a name for himself rushing the passer and disrupting his timing, sure, but he was also dominant in the run game. Wouldn't you at least agree that he's a special talent and can overcome linemen by sheer power? If so, how is that NOT what you look for in a run stopper?

Well the problem here all goes back to the 3-4 defense again. He was great at run stuffing and rushing the passer as a dt. A nt typically stops the run by being a big dude (and throwing the center aside like ratliff did to rabach). Haynesworth isnt that big. If anything it will take him some time to learn the nuances of the position. Putting him in for a play here and there while scrubs like vonnie holliday play does not help him learn the position, or help the redskins win games in the long run.

[TSO]

Well the problem here all goes back to the 3-4 defense again. He was great at run stuffing and rushing the passer as a dt. A nt typically stops the run by being a big dude (and throwing the center aside like ratliff did to rabach). Haynesworth isnt that big. If anything it will take him some time to learn the nuances of the position. Putting him in for a play here and there while scrubs like vonnie holliday play does not help him learn the position' date=' or help the redskins win games in the long run.[/quote']

I disagree, Haynesworth is quite the massive quantity, lol. What exactly is "that big"? If, as you say, a "NT typically stops the run by being a big dude (and throwing the center aside like Raliff did to Rabach)", then who exactly would be better at that on our team right now than Haynesworth, lol?

I hope I'm not sounding condescending to you, I don't mean to if so.

[bulldog]

Get used to it folks. Haynesworth doesn't like being a situation substitute on the defensive line.

I would expect more problems creeping up that 'limit' what he is expected to do.

Albert is not going to refuse to play or make any overt comments about his status because he knows Shanahan and Allen are waiting for that.

But again I do anticipate more of the passive-aggressive attitude and the occurrence of some slight injuries that end up mysteriously causing him to miss games.

Shannon Sharpe said it best in this past week's article on Shanahan in the WP.

The players that will like playing for Mike are those that want to excel and are motivated to achieve.

The players that won't like Shanahan are those who have been coddled before as athletes and given preferential treatment by their previous clubs. These players won't identify as being one of 53.

Sounds a lot like Albert, regardless of the defensive alignment he has been asked to play in.

[Potato Sack]

I don't really care anymore. In fact, I hope it's bad enough to limit him completely. I'm tired of looking at his face.

[WhoRUSupposed2Be]

Get used to it folks. Haynesworth doesn't like being a situation substitute on the defensive line.

I would expect more problems creeping up that 'limit' what he is expected to do.

Albert is not going to refuse to play or make any overt comments about his status because he knows Shanahan and Allen are waiting for that.

But again I do anticipate more of the passive-aggressive attitude and the occurrence of some slight injuries that end up mysteriously causing him to miss games.

Shannon Sharpe said it best in this past week's article on Shanahan in the WP.

The players that will like playing for Mike are those that want to excel and are motivated to achieve.

The players that won't like Shanahan are those who have been coddled before as athletes and given preferential treatment by their previous clubs. These players won't identify as being one of 53.

Sounds a lot like Albert, regardless of the defensive alignment he has been asked to play in.

Hence is why Shanahan is more inclined towards undrafted talent.

[CPORTISFAN999]

Oh that's right. AH didn't huddle up with the cornerbacks. Get rid of him. 90% of what he has "done" is nothing but a bunch of speculative BS. His teammates don't have a problem with him...why do you?

well...he did take himself out of many of the games last year with an "injury". and, he didnt show up to the mandatory minicamps. and, hes a dramaqueen. that alone is why we should get rid of him. i bet we would do fine without him.

[Redskins Diehard]

well...he did take himself out of many of the games last year with an "injury". and, he didnt show up to the mandatory minicamps. and, hes a dramaqueen. that alone is why we should get rid of him. i bet we would do fine without him.

he didn't show up to 1 practice. you know that is what the "mandatory minicamps" is equal to right? So you think we should get rid of him. I'll side with Cooley, and Portis, and Fletcher, and McNabb

[Skin'emAlive]

I disagree, Haynesworth is quite the massive quantity, lol. What exactly is "that big"? If, as you say, a "NT typically stops the run by being a big dude (and throwing the center aside like Raliff did to Rabach)", then who exactly would be better at that on our team right now than Haynesworth, lol?

I hope I'm not sounding condescending to you, I don't mean to if so.

I think it has to do with a lower center of gravity. All three of these dudes have a lower center of gravity, much like London Fletcher. Haynesworth is 6'6". Those guys are 6'4 and under. (including jay ratliff). I just think that Haynesworth gets pushed off the line too easily when playing nt, and his height may have something to do with it. Hes just not a nt. With that being said, he is our best option at NT. Kemo is done. So we gotta hope he gets some pt in and learns the position well.

[TSO]

Get used to it folks. Haynesworth doesn't like being a situation substitute on the defensive line.

I would expect more problems creeping up that 'limit' what he is expected to do.

Albert is not going to refuse to play or make any overt comments about his status because he knows Shanahan and Allen are waiting for that.

But again I do anticipate more of the passive-aggressive attitude and the occurrence of some slight injuries that end up mysteriously causing him to miss games.

Shannon Sharpe said it best in this past week's article on Shanahan in the WP.

The players that will like playing for Mike are those that want to excel and are motivated to achieve.

The players that won't like Shanahan are those who have been coddled before as athletes and given preferential treatment by their previous clubs. These players won't identify as being one of 53.

Sounds a lot like Albert, regardless of the defensive alignment he has been asked to play in.

I really hate that I feel like this is the reality as well. I hope he ends up changing and proving us wrong. It stinks knowing you got an All-Pro on your team who's just too proud to actually produce like one.

I think it has to do with a lower center of gravity. All three of these dudes have a lower center of gravity' date=' much like London Fletcher. Haynesworth is 6'6". Those guys are 6'4 and under. (including jay ratliff). I just think that Haynesworth gets pushed off the line too easily when playing nt, and his height may have something to do with it. Hes just not a nt. With that being said, he is our best option at NT. Kemo is done. So we gotta hope he gets some pt in and learns the position well.[/quote']

I definitely agree he's not the ideal height for a NT, you're spot on with that and when he mentioned as much early in the offseason I had no problem with that. But like you said, he's the best NT on the team right now, and furthermore, he's a special talent and has the ability to power his way against Centers even if their Guards are helping. His height isn't as much of an issue due to that as it would be for others.

[mi6]

Albert who? Yes! You heard it here first.

Can we pleas give all the "Fat" Albert posts a rest. How many posts do we need about a player who is not a playah?

- He doesn't want to practice,

- He doesn't want to learn the new defensive schemes.

- He doesn't want to give a 100%

- He doesn't want to be a team player

And, he doesn't really want to be a Redskin

Tt's time to cut the chord and be done with this ugly and public saga.

[TheTotalPackage]

HL: I think the NFC East is going to be a lot better than some people think. If the Redskins can keep Donovan (McNabb) upright, they are going to be competitive. I think Jim Haslett has done a good job with this 3-4 defense. The only thing to me is I think it’s a shame what they are doing to Albert Haynesworth. He looks good to me. He is totally miscast in their defensive system. To see him in a catch and read stance, on the nose is not taking advantage of what he can do.

MS: Do think they are really doing this because he has said he doesn’t want to play there?

HL: They are trying to get him with the program. They have been talking about his conditioning. He looks like he’s in really good shape to me. He looks lean. He’s probably 25 pounds lighter than a year ago. I mean, when he hits a gap he’s still a very disruptive player. He played hard. He ran to the ball real hard. He didn’t look winded, either. I guarantee you if they lined him up on the ball side of the center; he’s going to create a fumble every other game. What they are doing to him is like playing Revis in a zone defense.

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