tr1 Posted September 5, 2010 Author Share Posted September 5, 2010 It is pretty well established that Bryant was a top 5 talent in the draft if not for his overblown off the field issues.That is MUCH different than the typical player taken at 24. Based on how he has behaved, the work ethic he has displayed, the passion for the game he's displayed, and how he has played against good competition in practice....he is a lock to be a better player with more impact that Crayton. It still has to play itself out on the field but I feel pretty good about my statement based on the reasons I just stated. How's Roy Williams feel about his behavior? More tripe from you, Kenny. Please return to a puke fan board for some more feel good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Jones Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 It seems like every year some proclaimed skins fan gets a hard on for TR. Outside of the closet or disguised puke fan, I just don't get it. Reference Dez, just have to wait and see. History says he will struggle like all rookie WR's, but every once in a while one succeeds. Just have to see if the puke Oline can hold up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jflow78 Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 Nope, I'm perfectly happy with Silverback. Thanks for asking though Partially because he's actually played a down. But hey, not everyone can have a rookie LT like him, some people are stuck with Doug Free. :thumbsup: Oh, and as far as I can tell, our 3rd WR, Anthony Armstrong looked WAY better than Dezzy this preseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santana_89 Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 To expect a rookie WR to blow up or be consistent for Game 1 is pathetic.To expect a rookie WR who hasn't played one preseason snap to be effective is pathetic. To expect a rooke WR who has played 3 football games (in college) in the last 2+ years to contribute anything this weekend is pathetic. Typical Dallas media propaganda. Dez Bryant isn't scarring anyone Sept. 12th. He'll be so gassed that it won't really make difference if he plays or not. I don't care how talented he supposedly is, even that gay ass star on his helmet won't magically get him in FOOTBALL shape. Bet on that. Hell Miles Austin only has 1 good season of football,contrary to the media and cowboy fans, he's not yet arrived himself. Come on, now. Everyone, you know since he wears that star he's automatically great! Riiiiight all he has to do is call on the spirits of his ancestors Aikman, Landry, Irvin to give him the power:ols: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westbrook36 Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 I'm laughing my ass off that Kenny SERIOUSLY said that Bryant was "consensus top 5 talent"....in what universe? I love that Puke fans try to draw a comparison to Randy Moss.....it's like almost the same thing! RM fell down the draft board because of character concerns....he's like a HOFer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santana_Fan Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 He's not which guy? The guy that broke Newman's ankles in 2008? I'm pretty sure he is. I know James Thrash did it too, before the ball was even hiked, then scored on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suze109 Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 And I'm pretty sure he isn't. Moss did nothing against us in two games last year. We're putting that same defense on the field in a week. And I'm pretty sure that last sentence might be relevant, if we were putting the same offense on the field in a week. News flash: we aren't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddub52 Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 Not only has he missed most of pre season, but he also missed his 2009 college season. this is a lot of hype for a guy who hasnt seen the playing field in 2 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoskins Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 So I'm guessing after those amazing catches in practice, Jerruh has already put old Dez up in the ring of fame at Cowboys Stadium? Or is it Dez Bryant Stadium now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shining Star Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 And I'm pretty sure that last sentence might be relevant, if we were putting the same offense on the field in a week.News flash: we aren't. But unfortunately for you, we are putting the same defense on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiro Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 To proclaim that Dez Bryant is a sure thing at WR is pretty foolish IMO. The fact that he hasn't had any preseason to get himself into football shape has to be downright disconcerting for Dallas fans. There's a reason why everyone, even for small bits here and there, have to play in the preseason. At this moment, Dez Bryant is an afterthought to me. I'm a lot more concerned about containing proven entities like Romo sits to pee and Witten, and containing a threat like Austin as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan T. Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 Frankly, I think Dez Bryant is going to be a pain in the Redskins' ass for years to come. We may not see it Sunday, but by the next time we face the Cowboys, he'll be a real threat. He's got a nice combination of size, power, hands, and quickness. If his 10 cent head doesn't derail him, he's going to be a formidable WR in the NFL. Sucks to say it, but that's how I see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 I'm laughing my ass off that Kenny SERIOUSLY said that Bryant was "consensus top 5 talent"....in what universe?I love that Puke fans try to draw a comparison to Randy Moss.....it's like almost the same thing! RM fell down the draft board because of character concerns....he's like a HOFer! #5 http://www.draftcountdown.com/archive/2010/2010-Top-Overall.php Mayock says Brant is "No doubt a top 5 player when you look at him on tape" http://blogs.nfl.com/2010/04/09/dez-bryants-stock-is-falling-as-draft-nears/ #5 http://www.footballsfuture.com/2010/prospects/ "If intangibles were not in the picture, Bryant would be a sure thing top 5 pick." http://www.newerascouting.com/01/dez-bryant-scouting-report/ "In terms of talent, Bryant is a top-five pick."- Ray Didinger (he and mayock are the best, imo) http://www.csnphilly.com/04/16/10/NFL-Draft-Profile-WR-Dez-Bryant/landing.html?blockID=217814&feedID=704 "Based on game film alone, he is a top 5 pick." http://www.thefootballexpert.com/scouting-reports/dez-bryant-wr-oklahoma-st.html "Bryant is a possible top-five pick overall based strictly on talent and playmaking." http://packersnews.greenbaypressgazette.com/article/20100417/PKR01/100417042/Oklahoma-State-s-Dez-Bryant-leads-weak-field-at-receiver "I've talked to 16 teams about grades," said Charlie Casserly, Houston's former general manager-turned broadcaster. "What people have told me is he's a top-five pick, big, explosive and rangy. Perhaps learning a system will be somewhat of an adjustment and adjusting to pro life in the NFL." “There hasn’t been a receiver as talented as him since Calvin Johnson, and Andre Johnson’s the other guy I’d put in that category," ESPN draft analyst Todd McShay said. http://www.ajc.com/sports/atlanta-falcons/wide-receiver-dez-bryant-463148.html "The Oklahoma State wideout is a top-five talent." http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/36631835/ns/sports-nfl/ Not sure which Universe you are living in Westy, but this is the one i'm on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbws Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 The denial in here is pretty humorous!Didn't Crabtree hold out until week 7 last year and have 5 catches in his debut? The Cowboys clearly know what they have in Bryant, he has practiced a ton this offseason. He has gone against very good corners in Newman and Jenkins and has done very well. Just because he didn't play in the preseason doesn't mean he can't be productive this year. I expect him to play pretty well this year and cause defenses fits.... Yeah, and monkeys may fly out of my butt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dallasfan Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 Crayton didn't want to be here and would've been a distraction if he stayed (ala Hayensworth). If there was no injury to Austin or Williams early on, he'd be upset over Dez getting playing time at his expense and would likely gripe about. Hopefully Crayton catches 40 passes and gets us a 6th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 Frankly, I think Dez Bryant is going to be a pain in the Redskins' ass for years to come. We may not see it Sunday, but by the next time we face the Cowboys, he'll be a real threat. He's got a nice combination of size, power, hands, and quickness. If his 10 cent head doesn't derail him, he's going to be a formidable WR in the NFL. Sucks to say it, but that's how I see it. Ray Didinger, Charley Casserly, Todd McShay and Mike Mayock and numerous others agree with you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan T. Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 Ray Didinger, Charley Casserly, Todd McShay and Mike Mayock and numerous others agree with you! Yeah, but what really scares me is that I am on the same side of an issue as you. There is a first time for everything, I guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 Crayton didn't want to be here and would've been a distraction if he stayed (ala Hayensworth). If you have a strong, disciplined coach and true leaders in the locker room, guys like Crayton won't distract anything at all (ala Shanahan, Fletcher, Daniels). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 If you have a strong, disciplined coach and true leaders in the locker room, guys like Crayton won't distract anything at all (ala Shanahan, Fletcher, Daniels). Yes, certainly Fat Albert has been a choir boy so far this year. They really broke him. The Cowboys only wish they had some leaders like Daniels and Fletcher! That is the one thing we are missing! I have not seen true leadership like they displayed while winning 4 games.......practically ever! Good points... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiro Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 Yes, certainly Fat Albert has been a choir boy so far this year. They really broke him.The Cowboys only wish they had some leaders like Daniels and Fletcher! That is the one thing we are missing! I have not seen true leadership like they displayed while winning 4 games.......practically ever! Good points... You, of course, realize that the '09 team was led by a coach who is actually a weaker leader of men than Wade Philips. Yet, even with as crappy as things got, we didn't have a total locker room meltdown that we have seen other teams do in years past. A lot of that had to do with the great leadership we have on our team. And while you may refuse to openly admit it, you totally would rather have London Fletcher on your team than, say, Keith Brooking. The two aren't even in the same class in terms of overall production and leadership. One kept his team together during the hard times. The other talked over kicking someone while they're down to hype his teammates up. One didn't openly complain to the media after the Patriots dissected his defense in a regular season game. The other did just the opposite when his defense failed to show up in the biggest game of his team's season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 Yes, certainly Fat Albert has been a choir boy so far this year. They really broke him. Did I say they would break him? No. Did I say they would keep Haynesworth from becoming a distraction for the team? Yes. And they have. Notice how those two statements are not interchangeable. That's because they do not mean the same thing. Once you grasp the english language better you'll be able to see the difference as well :thumbsup: The Cowboys only wish they had some leaders like Daniels and Fletcher! That is the one thing we are missing! I have not seen true leadership like they displayed while winning 4 games.......practically ever!Good points... Yes, by all means summarize the leadership of those two veterans by the Redskins' record last season...even your Cowboys brethren will find that an absolute asinine response to make...especially after seeing how they helped in keeping the defense focused and together after Sean Taylor's murder. But, yeah, focus on a 4-12 season and ridicule the idea that either player is a leader and an asset in the locker room, Ken. Seriously, keep on doing it. I want you to :yes:... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santana_Fan Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 Crayton didn't want to be here Crayton played in Largo, MD? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shining Star Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 To proclaim that Dez Bryant is a sure thing at WR is pretty foolish IMO. The fact that he hasn't had any preseason to get himself into football shape has to be downright disconcerting for Dallas fans. There's a reason why everyone, even for small bits here and there, have to play in the preseason.At this moment, Dez Bryant is an afterthought to me. I'm a lot more concerned about containing proven entities like Romo sits to pee and Witten, and containing a threat like Austin as well. As I said in another post, you might be right, you might be wrong. Who knows. What about the fact that you guys are putting so much faith in starting a ROOKIE LT???? That's a much more tenuous position for a ROOKIE. Your QB's health is at stake. Bryant falls on his butt, we miss out on some receptions, maybe some TDs. Williams falls on his butt, and injury-prone McNabb could be on IR. Something to think about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shining Star Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 #5http://www.draftcountdown.com/archive/2010/2010-Top-Overall.php Mayock says Brant is "No doubt a top 5 player when you look at him on tape" http://blogs.nfl.com/2010/04/09/dez-bryants-stock-is-falling-as-draft-nears/ #5 http://www.footballsfuture.com/2010/prospects/ "If intangibles were not in the picture, Bryant would be a sure thing top 5 pick." http://www.newerascouting.com/01/dez-bryant-scouting-report/ "In terms of talent, Bryant is a top-five pick."- Ray Didinger (he and mayock are the best, imo) http://www.csnphilly.com/04/16/10/NFL-Draft-Profile-WR-Dez-Bryant/landing.html?blockID=217814&feedID=704 "Based on game film alone, he is a top 5 pick." http://www.thefootballexpert.com/scouting-reports/dez-bryant-wr-oklahoma-st.html "Bryant is a possible top-five pick overall based strictly on talent and playmaking." http://packersnews.greenbaypressgazette.com/article/20100417/PKR01/100417042/Oklahoma-State-s-Dez-Bryant-leads-weak-field-at-receiver "I've talked to 16 teams about grades," said Charlie Casserly, Houston's former general manager-turned broadcaster. "What people have told me is he's a top-five pick, big, explosive and rangy. Perhaps learning a system will be somewhat of an adjustment and adjusting to pro life in the NFL." “There hasn’t been a receiver as talented as him since Calvin Johnson, and Andre Johnson’s the other guy I’d put in that category," ESPN draft analyst Todd McShay said. http://www.ajc.com/sports/atlanta-falcons/wide-receiver-dez-bryant-463148.html "The Oklahoma State wideout is a top-five talent." http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/36631835/ns/sports-nfl/ Not sure which Universe you are living in Westy, but this is the one i'm on. Dude, don't confuse them with facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shining Star Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 If you have a strong, disciplined coach and true leaders in the locker room, guys like Crayton won't distract anything at all (ala Shanahan, Fletcher, Daniels). This post has GOT to be a joke, right? Haynesworth anyone?????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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