darrelgreenie Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 I'm curious to know how many people actually believe we're gonna struggle to run the ball in the regular season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holmester Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 I think we will in the first couple weeks. But, our running game will slowly improve as the season progresses. I also think Torain and Williams will be our 2 headed monster by the end of the seaon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enter Apotheosis Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 I think we will in the first couple weeks. But, our running game will slowly improve as the season progresses. I also think Torain and Williams will be our 2 headed monster by the end of the seaon. I don't even expect us to struggle the first couple of weeks. I do, however, expect the run game to get off to a slow start against Dallas before really kicking it into gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gart Monk Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 Shanny plays for first downs and has proven that he can run with any back. The O-line will get in a rhythm. The opposing defenses are going to have to deal a fresh Larry Johnson in the 4qtr after getting pounded by Portis and chasing Mcnabb all over the place. It's going to be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GucciManSantana Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 everyone keeps forgetting that what we're seeing now is very vanilla. with that being the fact portis still looks great! he's going to have a big year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acuratl1984 Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 I think we will have some trouble running the ball early on. But eventually our Oline will get use to the scheme and gel, and we should be better toward the end of the season. I think we need to spread the carries a bet to keep Portis healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kindred Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 as long as portis is good to go, we'll be fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbs Hog Heaven Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 Meh, aside from the fact we've got a completley new system in place (within which I'm real excited to see the slimmed down CP "one cut and go"), and have been running the bare minimum of the playbook; it's pre-season, and the overall league vogue of late has been to get the passing game in synch for week one, and worry anout pounding it later. I've no concerns that what we've seen to date, will be completley different come Dallas. Hail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheShredder Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 How many times have you watched the run game not develop until the second half? About half the time. In order to get a good read on the run game you are going to have to play a FULL GAME. You can't make decisions based on a series here or series there with different people each time. There will be no continuity or cohesiveness in what works and doesn't against a particular defensive front. The Skins will have some success against Dallas on the ground, trust your coaches & CP! They might need to make a few adjustments during the first quarter or couple of possessions, but then they will find the weakness and play to their strength. I do believe that's how it works! HTTR!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HigSkin Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 No, Shanny and company know what they're doing. http://www.redskins.com/gen/articles/Early_On__Redskins__Ground_Game_a_Work_In_Progress_147907.jsp “We have played two pretty good defenses [in preseason] and we haven’t had much of a game plan,” Shanahan said. “Our running game will get there. It is a process. But that was a very respectable defense we played at the Jets and also with Baltimore. They are two very good teams. “You’ve got to really have a game plan you have to really be committed to run the ball against those two football teams. It is not going to be much tougher than that.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Washington Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 If I know Shan, we will chop block and hold on every play until the running game gets going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 I'd be surprised if we didn't. Esp. at first. We've been a mediocre to poor running team for a couple of years now. Our o line hasn't shone in run blocking in the preseason, non of our running backs have looked good, and all of them have a lot of wear on the tires. I don't think we'll be terrible, but I don't see our running game scaring many. I hope I'm wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoskins Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 My only concern is if it will in fact be easier for defensive linemen to hold with the new umpire location. Or conversely, if offensive linemen see more holding penalties. But that affects all 32 rushing games, not just us obviously. But other than that, no I am not concerned. Portis has looked good. Shanahan will stick with the run, which is half the battle. And the running game will get better over the course of 4 quarters of consistent pressure on a defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWFLSkins Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 No, Shanny and company know what they're doing.http://www.redskins.com/gen/articles/Early_On__Redskins__Ground_Game_a_Work_In_Progress_147907.jsp “We have played two pretty good defenses [in preseason] and we haven’t had much of a game plan,” Shanahan said. “Our running game will get there. It is a process. But that was a very respectable defense we played at the Jets and also with Baltimore. They are two very good teams. “You’ve got to really have a game plan you have to really be committed to run the ball against those two football teams. It is not going to be much tougher than that.” Very good points and post Hig, Shanny knows what he is doing that is the diff. If I know Shan, we will chop block and hold on every play until the running game gets going. See the above + I would not want to be playing against him, but having him as our coach is a great thing. He will run the ball and he will be successful doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinfan4ever Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 I think the running game will be fine. I think the rough past couple of games running the ball had more to do with the Jets and Ravens Run D then anything else. Werent they num 1 and 2 last year against the run? If Portis's ankle injury isn't too serious and he stays healthy, he could have a 1500+ YD season like he was on track for in 08' before he wore down. I can't wait for this preseason to be over so we can watch Portis run all over the Cowpukes!! HTTR!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldfan Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 I didn't vote on your poll, DG, because you don't have an option for "I haven't got a clue." Houston has had a problem getting their ZBS in gear in previous seasons, but Rick Dennison has theirs going this preseason. Our offense is really odd. Ordinarily, after a scheme switch, the passing game is slow to develop, but the run game shows some signs of life early on. We've seen the opposite. In a power blocking scheme, if you have the horses, you'll know it right away. That doesn't seem to be the case with the ZBS. Unless, of course, our guys just can't block. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWFLSkins Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 I didn't vote on your poll, DG, because you don't have an option for "I haven't got a clue."Houston has had a problem getting their ZBS in gear in previous seasons, but Rick Dennison has theirs going this preseason. Our offense is really odd. Ordinarily, after a scheme switch, the passing game is slow to develop, but the run game shows some signs of life early on. We've seen the opposite. In a power blocking scheme, if you have the horses, you'll know it right away. That doesn't seem to be the case with the ZBS. Unless, of course, our guys just can't block. You make good points but the variance to those points are clear. Shanny won't show all his cards and the line will have to gel and play together well for this system to work. NOw your main point, "I haven't got a clue" can't be argued. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCsportsfan53 Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 I really don't think so for a couple reasons. Firstly, Mike Shanahan ALWAYS has a running game. If there's one thing he's proven he can do it's find a way to run the ball effectively with whoever is available. Secondly, the last two teams we've played are two, if no the two, best run stopping teams in the league. Thirdly, it's preseason, we aren't gameplanning, backs aren't given a real opportunity to get into a rythm and the commitment to the running game isn't what it will be in the regular season because the coaches have things they need to see in the passing game, especially with the unsettled nature of the WR position right now. Lastly, Clinton Portis is CLEARLY our best ball carrier and he's only had 9 carries this preseason. Basically, the running game is probably the thing I'm least worried about regarding our team this season. I just fully believe that with the Shanys in charge the running game will be solid. There's quite a history to overcome there to say we won't be able to run the ball. This is the guy who's famous partially for turning no name RB after no name RB into 1200 yard rushers. He'll find a way to make it happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotalRecall Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 I think we will be ok running the ball if Portis remains healthy. Defensively, I have a feeling we are not going to stop the run so well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HBnotBlades Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 I went back to look at how quickly Shanahan got Denver's running game going after he took over as head coach and the results were pretty impressive. Before Shanahan's arrival with Wade Philips as head coach of the Broncos: YEAR RUSHING RANK 1992 26 1993 18 1994 23 Shanahan arrived in 1995, and the running game immediately took off: YEAR RUSHING RANK 1995 5 1996 1 1997 4 1998 2 1999 12 2000 3 2001 10 2002 5 2003 2 2004 2 2006 8 2007 9 2008 12 Moral of the story? Shanahan was shockingly consistent with the running game while he was in Denver and drastically improved their running game from day one. Before I went back to look at these numbers I thought we'd struggle this year as our line got used to the ZBS, but seeing Shanahans history of making the running game work well over 13 years with countless changes in personnel gives me confidence he'll make it work this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arkowi Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 I am thinking there is one truly legit running back on this team, and that is Portis and I am not worried about him. Shanahan knows what he has in him, and didn't show much of him in the pre-season - because a) he does know what he has in him, he didn't want anyone to take too much notice. In very limited action (9 total carries) against some good running defenses (and only against starters) he averaged 4.3 ypc. That is higher than any season ypc average he has had in Washington and only lower than his career average due to two years with a 5.5 ypc avg in Den. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homercles82 Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 We also faced two strong defenses in the run game the last 2 games so I would not worry much about it plus Shanny said not having any gameplan keeps me from being scared about our running attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illone Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 Running game will be fine, the Skins haven't tried to feature it during the pre-season at ALL. I've noticed a focus on the passing game in every single game thus far, makes me think the team is more worried about WR than RB. Once Kyle opens up the playbook the running game is gonna tear it up. :2cents: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattFancy Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 I don't think any Mike Shanahan coached team has had problems running the ball. Maybe we won't have a 1,000yd rusher, but I feel like we'll be closer to the top of the league in rushing than the bottom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peeping Wizard Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 I get the feeling that the team has placed greater emphasis on evaluating the passing game this preseason. I don't think much emphasis has been placed on the run. I have a feeling that the running game will look entirely different in a few weeks time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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