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haithman

When to fire Zorn?  

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  1. 1. When to fire Zorn?

    • fire him now
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    • let him finish the season, then fire him
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    • let him come back for another year
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    • between now and the end of the season, force him to resign
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Haynesworth may not make game changing play every play, but he, IMO, has been let down by the other 10 on the field and not vice versa.

Last night was another example, not only did he do damn well after not being able to practice BUT, Jacobs was basically abusing D. Hall for absolutely NO REASON. I want to make this clear, it was not like Hall was being an ass or anything. Jacobs wanted to contnue the play and Hall did what any defender would do and tried to get him.

Haynesworth sticks up for his guys, he probably prevented Hall from literally getting his ass beaten. The refs were completely one-sided and once again Jacobs (who is probably worse than f. adams) gets away with PUNCHES AND FACEMASKING...

Haynesworth is the best Defensive Tackle in the game, at least a majority of fans/players/coaches say the same. NO ONE, EVER says Blache is... Blache can go, F b mitch too....

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Haynesworth is a monster when he plays. But he is unreliable. The guy is huffing and puffing throughout the game, and taking dives left and right to catch his breath.

how would you feel if you got held or your facemask get yanked almost every other play with no flag. Only to hear MORONIC comments about him taking plays off or not changing the game on every play?

his coach sucks, most of his teammates suck, i'd be pissed too.

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6 tackles and a sack for a DT on a bad wheel is not worth it????

WTF planet are you guys from?

You make it sound like its YOUR money?

News flash...ITS NOT.

Talk about money when CP makes 8 mill a year for NOTHING. Randle El makes 5 mil a year FOR NOTHING. Jim Zorn makes 5 mil a year FOR NOTHING!

And you pick out the guy who has 6 tackles and a sack, playing with a bum ankle, from the DT position? NIce argument.

Think he might be gassed cause he doesnt even WALK on his ankle during the week for the last four weeks, cause the trainer's are keeping him off it?

Man I agree 100% with you. I don't get what people are seeing with AH. He is like the ONLY guy with a nasty streak on the entire damn team. The guys is pushing against 2 300 pound guys every single play and he is still penetrating consistently. He is a force. God forbid we get a secondary, play Orakpo in his natural position and get a real strong side linebacker. AH is one of the few people I would keep on this team. He is EXACTLY the kind of guy I want on my defense. I just don't get the hate for this guy.

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Brian Mitchell is just like every other doomsday broadcaster in the media around here; struggling for something smart to say. At least Riggo knows enough to bash Snyder and the coaches.

I'm totally sick of Bmitch. he is a straight up hater. He LOVES that we suck right now. The guy won't know what to do with himself when we get back on top. His whole shtick is just bashing the skins and laughing at our misery. It cracks me up that he is now on the "voice of the fan", that guy is so far from my voice its ridiculous. He is a freakin hater.

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Haynesworth is a FAT ASS LOSER who took the money and ran. He's always hurt and on one knee. What a joke he has become. Hopefully it's an uncapped year and the redskins can drop him off at golden corrall so he can eat his FAT ASS right out of football. What a piece of junk

No hopefully its an uncapped year so we can drop you as a hating annoying little fan..you folks need to stop being jelous of albert getting payed. period!

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Some of y'all crack me up.

Albert dominates in Tennessee..and he says it's because they let him have some freedom to play his game rather then be stuffed into a scheme.

He said the same thing in May during our first mini camp.. said he hoped they'll let him play with abandon, because that's what he does. Said he was worried they'd try to over-scheme him and thus hold him back. In May. Says the same thing last night.. except in the present he's not worried about it anymore, he's pissed because what he feared has come true.

He's lying? What would make anyone believe him? I mean it's not like Greg Blache doesn't have a habit of trying to change what works into something else.

Greg Blache, who is handed the best DE in the draft, and immediately converts him to a linebacker to chase tight ends. Even though it has become quite clear to anyone who isn't blind that he absolutely excels with his hand on the ground and coming off the edge, Blache still doesn't agree, and Kevin Boss makes Orakpo look like a fool all night long last night. Ran him into a ****ing REF like a rank amateur. We get one sack on Manning (don't make me tell you who got it) and he picks us apart and humiliates us on national tv.

He has LaRon Landry, who he has played out of position, and has effectively ruined. A total and complete bust. He looks like he's never played football in his LIFE most of the time, and that is not an exaggeration.

He has Chris Wilson, another speed rushing DE playing LB and chasing around TEs... and missing gaps where running backs are. The most positive plays Chris Wilson has made this year? When he's pressured the quarterback. Does Blache see this? Nah, he has him playing LB still, and Ahmad Bradshaw runs through his gap all night like it's the Harbor tunnel.

He employs Jerry Gray, who has his cornerbacks play 15 yards off the line on 3rd and 5. He plays safeties sometimes 30 yards deep, and seemingly plays prevent during 75% of the game (and I'm not even kidding slightly. I've never seen DBs play as deep as ours do as consistently as we do. Never)

Nevermind that 3/4s of our starting DBs are top ten picks, and they get schooled week in and week out. remember when we were the "number one pass defense"? Did any of you have any doubt when the Cowboys got the ball that final drive last time that they were going to score? Be honest. How many were not surprised in the slightest that they completed 8 passes in a row and marched right on down the field and scored on our "number one ranked pass defense"?

On the other hand, you see this same Greg Blache defense as last year that was 28th in the league with 24 measly sacks now tied for 5th with 38 and 3 games to go... while Tennessee who was 5th with 44 last year sits at a pedestrian 19th with 28 sacks.

You've been told all year long that Albert's best asset is he commands double and triple teams, and that frees up outside guys to get sacks. We have a rookie looking at the record, and Andre Carter has 11 sacks, when last year he had a whopping FOUR. Meanwhile in Tennessee last year's sack leader who wasn't named Haynesworth (who WAS their sack leader) has only 4.5 sacks this year.

And yet somehow, you see all of these colossal ****ups by Greg Blache, you see our entire defense get schooled week in and week out... the positives you DO see can be DIRECTLY attributed to his presence, and somehow you refuse to accept that any of THAT is true, and Albert is just a malingering fatass who fluked his way into all pro status in Tennessee because the most bitter ex-Redskin of them all lashed out again.

AMAZING.

I wonder... How many of you Mensa candidates would be interested in purchasing a bridge I own in Brooklyn?

~Bang

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He is not that good people. He is definitley not worth 100 million dollars our GM is the idiot.

Again its more like 42m over 4 years and then he is voidable, the real idiots are the people who keep saying he makes 100 million when he doesn't.

So yeah we paid market value for a top 5 DT in this league, Griffin is gone in the offseason and we have Golston / Montgomery as likely starters next season who aren't exactly worldbeaters. This is what happens when you are coming off 10 years of failed draft picks.

Albert is going to be a monster for us for the next 3-4 seasons and anchor this defense, as soon as we have a real HC / DC in here we are going to be downright nasty.

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To me the coaching staff was a large part to blame, followed by the players. The coaches couldn't diagnose that Ahmad Bradshaw was going to get screen passes and draw plays when he was in the first series? I saw that stuff coming a mile away! They still had the great 15 yard cushions for those world beater receivers that the giants have and they still got beat deep.

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Bang, that is an on-the-money series of points and it never ceases to amaze me either. Blache (and Gray) has made as many incompetent coaching moves as Zorn with far less excuse and apparently, even counting offensive failings, all those "wonderful" stats and rankings have spared them being held justly accountable, and instead have even contributed to their having been celebrated by many, at least until recently. On top of that, when it comes to weird and criticism-worthy behaviors of a coach in general, Blache has plenty of those, too.

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Im sorry but Haynesworth is right. Blache doesn't let his DT's attack he has them hold the line basically to stop the run. Haynesworth is a force and should be attacking and pushing the pocket at all times. I do agree with people saying he is out of shape. The guy has to take a knee far too much and the fake injuries to get out of the game to rest is just a joke.

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Lady Albert may be playing hurt, if so good for him. However, I still think he is a crappy locker room guy and takes too many plays off. He needs motivation (winning), without that his production, dedication and attitude all suffer. Maybe with some new schemes next a different Fat Al. We will see, because with his price tag he is ours....

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6 tackles and a sack for a DT on a bad wheel is not worth it????

WTF planet are you guys from?

You make it sound like its YOUR money?

News flash...ITS NOT.

Talk about money when CP makes 8 mill a year for NOTHING. Randle El makes 5 mil a year FOR NOTHING. Jim Zorn makes 5 mil a year FOR NOTHING!

And you pick out the guy who has 6 tackles and a sack, playing with a bum ankle, from the DT position? NIce argument.

Think he might be gassed cause he doesnt even WALK on his ankle during the week for the last four weeks, cause the trainer's are keeping him off it?

Just a guess...but I'm thinking his "gassing" problems extend BEYOND the few weeks he's been icing and elevating his ankle.

And I see a lot of complaining on here about CP, RE, and Zorn, so don't think we're letting that crap fly fine either.

Like I said before, Haynesworth has a point (IMO) about our defensive scheme (can it even be called that?). I'd be pissed too if I, along with other defensive playmakers, weren't being used the right way, to their strengths. He's totally right on that.

However, I'd like to see a dude who gets paid that much money come in at least semi-in shape. The reason an athlete gets ticky-tac injuries like he has every time he's on the field is from being out of shape.

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On postgame, B-Mitch is ripping on Haynesworth, probably understandably. Haynesworth essentially said this isnt what he expected and he basically got Jim Schwartz a job but here the coaches wont let him loose. Anyone catch this? B-Mitch basically said he's not as good as he was in Tennessee and he needs to stop making excuses and getting in shape. Surprised no one has talked about what Haynesworth said yet.

Have never bought into paying this guy a $100 million dollar contract. He has been often imjured. The Skins played 4 games without him recently, and the defense didn't miss a beat! Telling isn't it?

And, then when he plays, every other play he is flopping around for oxygen. He is not fit, and hasn't been a huge difference maker -- especially, for the $'s we threw at him.:mad:

Wish we picked up Richard Seymor instead.

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Oh, and one other thing, the two brawls we've had this year, Albert was one of the few guys to come to the aid of his teammate. We used to respect that around here.

~Bang

I'm not going to quote your last post b/c it's long, but I agree with what you said. Obviously there's a lot of frustration around here and we are tempted to take it out on the players b/c they're the ones we see out on the field.

But I agree with EVERYTHING you just said about Blache's approach and how strongheadedly inept it is. The day he is gone and our defensive playmakers are back to being utilized properly can't come soon enough. Watching this bullcrap week in and week out is insanity-inducing.

That being said, I still don't think bringing Haynesworth here for what was paid was a brilliant move...especially when you have a DC who's going to screw everything up anyway.

Also, I agree with coming to a teammate's defense. I DID smile when I saw that last night.

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Also, I agree with coming to a teammate's defense. I DID smile when I saw that last night.

Seriously.

And what about the offensive line just leaving JC on the ground most of the time after he got hit?

This is clearly not a team anymore.

It honestly surprises me that Haynesworth went after Jacobs and came to DHall's defense, but I'll give him credit.

Most of the other guys were trying to keep DHall back (same with the ATL game) which is acceptable but when someone is really getting after your teammate you sure as hell better get his back.

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Big Al needs to pipe down, but we know how stubborn Blache is.

Here is the real problem that needs to be addressed. We spend millions on draft picks and FA who can cause havoc in the back field, then put a ball and chain on them by moving them out of their position.

Richie Petitbone had a sack machine like RAK in the early 80's named Dexter Manley. Unlike Blache, he kept him on the defensive line where he belonged, and he literally changed games for us and led the NFL in sacks while he played for us.

RAK is a sack specialist and he belongs on the defensive line, not covering TE's and RB's all over the field. When an average fan can see this, why the hell can't a defensive coach? As far as Big Al, he will be fine as soon as we get him back to his strong safety position :doh:

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