gorebd82 Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 I've seen a bunch of the Bruce Allen threads popping up and people keep mentioning Gruden. To avoid having to repost a thousand times in a bunch of different threads, I figured I'd start a new one so that ESers would already know the situation. Gruden is contractually obligated to stay with ESPN. Here is a snippet from Mort's chat yesterday: Bill (Columbus) Hey mort love your commercial with adam. What do you think of clevelands attempt to hire Holmgren? Do you think this is a good move? I for one think holmgren would bring in Maraucchi or gruden to coach this team, your thoughts..... Chris Mortensen (11:48 AM) Holmgren would bring some credibility. Gruden is not going anywhere. He can't contractually, otherwise I would have agreed with you. I doubt it on Mariucci. I think Leslie Frazier is possible but let me throw out a surprise name to you - Marty Mornhinweg. Marty was successful OC in SF, has done great as the real play-caller in Philly. How much can we hold Lions against him in light of their dismal performance as a franchise? And how long do we hold 20 seconds of a coin flip and "I'll take the wind" against him? Just questions. Here is the link to an ESPN article about Gruden signing an extension with the network last month: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4659441 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asknoquarter Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 We have an owner that will pay any amount of money to get what he wants This is a non issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattFancy Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 I'm sure Snyder would have no problem buying out Gruden's contract if need be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HigSkin Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 That's one man's opinion. Others have said he has a buy-out clause. Money talks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinzFan007 Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 much much stranger things have happened. keep an eye out for leslie frazier as well. hes a hot coaching name and has worked with bruce allen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rd421 Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 We have an owner that will pay any amount of money to get what he wantsThis is a non issue QFT End thread Snyder will just buy the contract out if he wants Gruden....and Im sure given track record Allen will want Gruden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandymac27 Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 980 is saying he probably has an out clause on his contract. If he does, then Gruden COULD very well be a candidate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
we_want_56 Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 But if he just decides not to show up to work what will happen? They'll fire him and sue him......If only we had somebody with a lot of money who could pay that judgement....Oh wait. Gruden IS a candidate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_Bleed_B&G Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 contracts are broken all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfan190 Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 Trust me if Gruden wants to coach. He will coach. People break and buy-out contracts all the time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veretax Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 Mortensen works for ESPN, therefore, anything he says has to be suspect with bias, whether its true or not. Sorry, but it is what it is. Besides, Contracts have loop holes. Not saying I want Gruden, but seriously, Dan ALWAYS gets the coach he wants, right? maybe not... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorldBFree76 Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 Money is not a problem with this owner, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GibbsFactor Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 He has an out according to Casserly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jflow78 Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 Gruden is contractually obligated to stay with ESPN. Mort has been wrong in the past, and there is no way that Daniel Snyder allows a TV contract, for a couple hundred thou, stop him from getting the guy he wants, or the guy his new GM wants. It's been done before and it will be done again, TV contracts are second hand to NFL contracts no matter what anyone says. I'm not saying its guaranteed (though I'd be happy with it), but it would be ignorant to think that a TV contract would get in the way of a guy coaching for a few mil a year. Yeah, that TV analyst would be REALLY effective. Your TV station stops you from making 20 times as much money and doing what you love to do and you're supposed to be agreeable about it? I don't think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gortiz Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 change the title ... do you know who our owner is??? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkam Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 980 is saying he probably has an out clause on his contract. If he does, then Gruden COULD very well be a candidate. There is NO possible way that he does NOT have an "out" clause in the event he is offered a head coaching job. No lawyer in the world would allow him to sign a contract without such a clause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justice98 Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 It seems inconceivable he wouldn't have an out clause. The notion that he'd sign a contract with ESPN where he absolutely cannot get out of it is ludicrous. There's always an out whether it be that or a buyout or whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santana_4_prez Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 That one little sentence from Mort is not proof at all. Come with something better than that to make such a strong statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernie5 Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 much much stranger things have happened. keep an eye out for leslie frazier as well. hes a hot coaching name and has worked with bruce allen. I'd like to see Zorn get a chance, but Frazier would be an interesting possibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audible_Red40 Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 Everyone is a candidate, except Trung Canidate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyConway Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 He has an out according to Casserly Heard that. Casserly sounded pretty confident about it as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoVaSkins21 Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 I'm actually torn on Gruden possibly coaching this team. I like his analysis and fire on MNF, but I don't know if he's the right guy to coach this team. The reports out of Tampa after he was fired was that he went behind player's backs down there. We'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suze109 Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 The timing sure is interesting considering Gruden is probably getting into town today or tomorrow for MNF ... I live to speculate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandymac27 Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 Doc just said on 980 he firmly believes Gruden will be the next HC here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick1796 Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 Man, I hope it's not true. I really don't like how Gruden runs a team. he's another guy who doesn't like to give rookies a lot of opportunities. He likes very veteran QB's a la Rich Gannon and Brad Johnson. Just not the guy i wanted coaching the skins. I think i'd prefer Zorn stay on board, but i don't think that really can happen. Zorn won't want to stay on if he isn't calling the plays. For some unknown reason he thinks he is good at it. I'd like to stay in the WCO just to create some consistency (really only if they keep JC which i really think they should). So for that Gruden wouldn't be bad. Truthfully i am just really curious what is going to happen with the head coaching position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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