SkinsAllDay34 Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 Ok, so with our given record and upcoming schedule there is a pretty good chance we are locked in for a top 5 pick. I hope I am wrong but I am assuming we dont win more than 3 more games. I just dont see how we can. I know a lot of people are looking at this draft and saying that there is load of talent at QB. There is no doubt, but putting a kid behind our O line is not going to solve anything and would not do any better than JC is doing right now. I think with a solid running game and a good oline, JC can do great. I am a supporter of him but do see his flaws but with a good cast around him we can do things. See for example our 6-2 start last year. JC had what, 8 TDs and 0 picks with Clinton looking like an MVP (JC was even mentioned as a midseason MVP) and our O Line blocking great. Then our oline got destroyed by injuries and that is when JC was looking to run for his life after the snap, instead of looking downfield. When he is confident in his line and has a running game, he is a good QB. Maybe not great but a good one. Ok back to the plan I dream to happen: I dont know how reasonible the deals are but I will just put it out there anyway. 1. Sign Jahri Evans OL from New Orleans (hopefully he doesnt resign) 2. In the draft trade down from our spot and pick up San Fran's 2 first rounders. They have Carolina's, so it could vary in draft position. 3. Trade up using our 2nd rounder and 2011 1st rounder + others if need be to get back into the 1st. 4. Try to trade the tap dancer for a late draft pick With the 3 first rounders go OL, OL, and RB It depends where the picks are but there are good Olinemen outside of Okung. The RB could be of your choice, but I REALLY like CJ Spiller and also Jahvid Best. Both of them could compliment Portis well being Homerun hitters. We would upgrade our line tremendously in talent and youth and get a young RB to be a dual threat with Portis and be his eventual replacement. So there it is. Say what you want, but Campbell behind a good young Oline and a explosive run game is fine with me because we dont need Campbell to pass for 4000 yards and 25 TDs to be successful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 There are plenty of threads about this including one giant fantastic thread in the middle of the page. And this would be ideal. http://extremeskins.com/showpost.php?p=7002394&postcount=1621 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus T Firefly Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 The trade with San Fran is, at the moment, something like the 6th pick for about the 12th and 13. Yeah, I'm all in favor of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsAllDay34 Posted November 11, 2009 Author Share Posted November 11, 2009 There are plenty of threads about this including one giant fantastic thread in the middle of the page.And this would be ideal. http://extremeskins.com/showpost.php?p=7002394&postcount=1621 Yeah, i was going to post it in that thread but thought better to just make it its own thread. People i guess can post their ideal scenarios if they want Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsNoles21 Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 ol qb rb and im happy. Id like CJ Spiller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skin'Em84 Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 3. Trade up using our 2nd rounder and 2011 1st rounder + others if need be to get back into the 1st. 4. Try to trade the tap dancer for a late draft pick With the 3 first rounders go OL, OL, and RB You know, I'm not going to be upset if this happens, however, I'd rather see this. 3. Keep next year's 1st. 4. Trade the Portis and/or Betts for next year 1st day picks. 2 1st Rounders go -OL OL 2nd rounder - OL / change of pace back Resign Campbell for a year if he would, or another vet. Sign a vet/unproven RB for a year. Solidify the line, have another mediocre/bad year. 2011 draft- 1. Trade 2012 picks (world is gonna end then anyway :-p) for a second 1st rounder (preferably high if we don't have a high pick) 2. Draft QB RB 3. 2nd Round- Draft Change of Pace RB That way our stud QB and our 2 RBs all grow up in our system behind an OL that grows in our system and develop a chemistry. Also, the OL will have a year under their belt, so they won't be going through the learning curve while our QB is getting destroyed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcoles11 Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 ol qb rb and im happy. Id like CJ Spiller. CJ Spiller? So you want a smaller, less talented version of Reggie Bush? I wouldn't even draft Reggie Bush in the 2nd round, probably not even the 3rd round right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskin301 Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 U guys want to wait a year for a qb why I'd say draft sam Bradford Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dallascrushers Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 The only way it would be good to wait until two years to draft a qb is if Locker and Clausen both stay for their senior years...because if they come out this year then there will not really be any quality qbs in the following years draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laxpunk2006 Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 What would be the point of giving up our second round and next year's first (probably high again if we're rebuilding) to bump a couple spots from the top of the second to the bottom of the first. The talent level really doesn't change much there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laxpunk2006 Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 CJ Spiller? So you want a smaller, less talented version of Reggie Bush? I wouldn't even draft Reggie Bush in the 2nd round, probably not even the 3rd round right now. The same thing could have been said about Chris Johnson when he came out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Fried Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 We can't trade next year's first.. We need it for a QB if we don't get one this year. Back when we had a run game, Campbell still held us back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPstretch Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 no no no. sign jamaal brown from the saints. sign ryan torain we go OT russell okung in round 1, draft demarco murray in round 2, we don't have a third rounder, but in round 4 we draft OG mike johnson from alabama. trade fred davis and a 5th for brady quinn and our offense is set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve09ru Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 OL if bradford is gone and if it is OL this year then... Ponder (FSU) in 2011...wish he would come out this year because he would probably be there in the 2nd/3rd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mi6 Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 We need to draft a FRANCHISE QB in the FIRST ROUND! Then go grab talented O-Linemen. Then grab, RB and DBs. And, for the RB. A number of the top running backs were choosen in not the FIRST but LATER rounds. Clinton Portis was a SECOND ROUNDER! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Stupid Loser Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 but putting a kid behind our O line is not going to solve anything and would not do any better than JC is doing right now. The Dancing Bear from Captain Kangaroo could do better that JC is doing right now. He is quite nimble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Terrapin Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 My vote: Build the line first. Would you buy a Porsche if you had to park it in a lousy neighborhood every night where you couldn't keep it safe? Why get some kid killed back there? It's not a one-year fix. We'll have a high draft pick again in 2011. My motto remains: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 We need to draft a FRANCHISE QB in the FIRST ROUND! Then go grab talented O-Linemen. Then grab, RB and DBs. And, for the RB. A number of the top running backs were choosen in not the FIRST but LATER rounds. Clinton Portis was a SECOND ROUNDER! I'm not sure I really see a "franchise QB" in this class as far as the high first round. They all have some pretty big knocks on them. Bradford has the injury bug and plays behind a dominant OL in a spread system. McCoy is ok, but probably more of a late 1st guy. Also part of a spread system and on the smallish side (mostly weight wise). Locker is a great athlete and runner, but has a crappy completion percentage and, IMO, isn't nearly ready for the big show. The closest guy I see to being a "franchise" QB that could be ready is Clausen, but I have heard issues about his attitude. He plays in a pro style offense, which is a plus, but he is also surrounded by big time talent (Floyd, Tate). The only guy there I see who would be worth a top 5 pick is Clausen. The others would be a reach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hitmandm Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 or we stay put and draft a top QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Skinhead in Saints Land Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 We'll be in a great position to take one of the big name quarterbacks. That give us the perfect scenario to trade down and stockpile OL. I agree we need a quarterback, but you build teams on the line. Give Colt one year to prove himself. If he doesn't then draft a quarterback next year. Thirdly, DO NOT trade future draft picks. This isn't a "fixed in one year" team. This is going to take a couple years of good drafting and smart free agent signings. WE HAVE GOT TO TRADE DOWN! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geneva Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 Ok, so with our given record and upcoming schedule there is a pretty good chance we are locked in for a top 5 pick. I hope I am wrong but I am assuming we dont win more than 3 more games. I just dont see how we can. I know a lot of people are looking at this draft and saying that there is load of talent at QB. There is no doubt, but putting a kid behind our O line is not going to solve anything and would not do any better than JC is doing right now. I think with a solid running game and a good oline, JC can do great. I am a supporter of him but do see his flaws but with a good cast around him we can do things. See for example our 6-2 start last year. JC had what, 8 TDs and 0 picks with Clinton looking like an MVP (JC was even mentioned as a midseason MVP) and our O Line blocking great. Then our oline got destroyed by injuries and that is when JC was looking to run for his life after the snap, instead of looking downfield. When he is confident in his line and has a running game, he is a good QB. Maybe not great but a good one. Ok back to the plan I dream to happen: I dont know how reasonible the deals are but I will just put it out there anyway. 1. Sign Jahri Evans OL from New Orleans (hopefully he doesnt resign) 2. In the draft trade down from our spot and pick up San Fran's 2 first rounders. They have Carolina's, so it could vary in draft position. 3. Trade up using our 2nd rounder and 2011 1st rounder + others if need be to get back into the 1st. 4. Try to trade the tap dancer for a late draft pick With the 3 first rounders go OL, OL, and RB It depends where the picks are but there are good Olinemen outside of Okung. The RB could be of your choice, but I REALLY like CJ Spiller and also Jahvid Best. Both of them could compliment Portis well being Homerun hitters. We would upgrade our line tremendously in talent and youth and get a young RB to be a dual threat with Portis and be his eventual replacement. So there it is. Say what you want, but Campbell behind a good young Oline and a explosive run game is fine with me because we dont need Campbell to pass for 4000 yards and 25 TDs to be successful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geneva Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 1st round pick, 1 thru 6 if season goes like I believe. QB 2nd round, 3rd round, 4th round, OL-OL-OL 5th round RB. We need to trade CP. 6th Round Best player on the board. 7th and any other picks granted. Best player on the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattFancy Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 4. Trade the Portis and/or Betts for next year 1st day picks. That would never happen. We'd be lucky to get a 4th or 5th rounder for either of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skin'Em84 Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 That would never happen. We'd be lucky to get a 4th or 5th rounder for either of them. You can get a 2011 3rd rounder for them. That's what I was aiming for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBass1724 Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 Tim Tebow is good friends with God. We should just get him because we need all the help we can get. Oh, sarcasm warning for those wondering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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