IbleedBnG83 Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 Uncle Rico will never be a productive QB in this NFL. Any team that wants him to be their starter will have to use a college style spread system as its base offense. LOL!!! I hope others get the side-arm reference you are getting at! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peregrine Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 I am personally of the opinion that the one who played best should have the job. Clearly, that was Collins. Say what you will about Young and gameplanning, but if you play better than the next guy, you should get the job. If Young wants to get better and beat out Collins, thats fine, but until he does, I vote for the guy who does a better job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scruffylookin Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 The Titans are as ignorant as they are arrogant thinking they are going to win the Super Bowl with an over-the-hill game manager.It has been done ONE TIME (Trent Dilfer). The Titans are not close to the 2000 Ravens' defense, sorry. If they didn't think that Vince Young was the answer then they should've drafted a quarterback this year or traded for one (Jay Cutler, anyone?). Please don't state Kurt Warner almost did it last year, he is the MAJOR EXCEPTION for older quarterbacks. Tampa won with Brad Johnson and I'd call him more a game manager at that point in his career. But I do agree with your overall point, the Titans really should be looking to upgrade that position. Collins was a nice alternative to have on the bench after Young failed. But I don't think I agree with the decision to commit to him as a fulltime starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IbleedBnG83 Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 Tampa won with Brad Johnson and I'd call him more a game manager at that point in his career.But I do agree with your overall point, the Titans really should be looking to upgrade that position. Collins was a nice alternative to have on the bench after Young failed. But I don't think I agree with the decision to commit to him as a fulltime starter. Unfortunately, they are somewhat bound to Young because of how high he was picked. I'm sure they want to see him mature. Don't people rememeber about how he broke down, and the rumors of suicide. The kid needs to take a seat and show some humility and maturity. The best option they have is Collins. Young will get his chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointyfootball Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 Unfortunately, they are somewhat bound to Young because of how high he was picked. I'm sure they want to see him mature. Does anyone have examples of a QB that had as bad mechanics as Young does, fixing them and becoming a successful NFL quarterback? Especially looking for one who was picked that high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honejc Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 Vince Young is on the verge of being a bust. The only reason he's still on the team was because where he was drafted and the fact their dumb owner wants him on the team. QFT!!! btw cant stop watching ur sig :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stickyshooZ Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 Does anyone have examples of a QB that had as bad mechanics as Young does, fixing them and becoming a successful NFL quarterback? Especially looking for one who was picked that high. Terry Bradshaw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamshatterer Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 Young obviously does not have the mental aspects for the NFL. Athelticism, yes. The brains, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskool Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 LOL!!! I hope others get the side-arm reference you are getting at! One of my all time favorite .gif's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalSkins Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 Patrick Ramsey is the best QB on that team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illone Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 Patrick Ramsey is the best QB on that team. :hysterical: Is that where he is holding clipboard these days? If I was a titans fan I'd feel about the same as I do about Campbell: tons of athletic potential, but maybe not the brain to play NFL QB at a high level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifty Gut Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 ...with him at quarterback opposing teams would have to spend a part of their practice time preparing for his scrambling abilities as well. actually, that's all teams have to prepare for. have you actually watched VY pass the football in the pros? it saddens me that someone actually wasted $30 million on a player that throws like my sister. he's a bust tried and true. Collins is their QB of last resort, and considering what little Collins brings to the table at his age, it makes VY's career even more a joke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsBry Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 Young hasn't shown me anything. Go with Collins this year but be on the lookout for the future Qb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IbleedBnG83 Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 This exerpt from Rotoworld... Vince Young revealed that he briefly considered quitting football after last season's opening game against the Jaguars. "I was to the point where man, I didn't really want to play no more because of the fact that I was that hurt," Young said. "I was that hurt from the boos and all the different things that were going on. It was just so much for me — I didn't want to play no more." Young went on to say he wasn't thinking of retiring at the time, but perhaps giving up for the 2008 season. ..... Is that who you want QBing for your team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonArtest15 Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 After seeing his interview on ESPN this morning, I'm convinced that Vince Young will be out of the league in a few years. This is NOT the type of guy you want leading your team. He's got issues, and seems to be in denial about his mental state. He probably has people in his ear telling him that he's "fine" when in actuality that's the furthest from the truth. He needs help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siven Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 Vince Young has the aestheticism edge but Collins has the mental part of the game down. He made smart decisions that helped the team win. Young hasn't done this since coming into the league. Yeah, he has made big plays that won the game for the Titans but he doesn't manage the game like Collins did last year.Collins deserves to be the starter. the what edge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IbleedBnG83 Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 the what edge? It means Young is better looking than Collins...:hysterical: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveFromYellowstone Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 the what edge? I had no idea Vince was interested in philosophy of the arts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnhay Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 Kerry Collins isn't a good quarterback, so I don't think he deserves to have the security of being named the starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveFromYellowstone Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 Kerry Collins isn't a good quarterback, so I don't think he deserves to have the security of being named the starter. He doesn't have to be an amazing QB, that's not what the Titans are asking him to do. They're asking him to limit mistakes and make big plays with his arm when he has to, which is something he is very capable of doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskool Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 He doesn't have to be an amazing QB, that's not what the Titans are asking him to do. They're asking him to limit mistakes and make big plays with his arm when he has to, which is something he is very capable of doing. Steve, Rico will never be a starting caliber QB in this league for 3 reasons: 1. His mechanics are horrible. He throws with his elbow low, raises his shoulder and lofts INT's. http://www.nfl.com/players/vinceyoung/careerstats?id=YOU617196 He's a career 57.3% comp rating, 15 INT's per year avg as a starter, 10 more INT's than TD's and a career QB rating of 68.8. That is hideous. 2. He can't read defenses. When his first read isn't open, he either forces it (most likely for a INT or incomplete pass) or more often than not runs. 3. He isn't mentally tough. He showed it this year when he went MIA after he was injured and replaced by Collins. #1 or #2 separately could be worked on and possibly overcome to make him a decent game managing QB. He has both against him. Add #3 and you have a turd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Comrade2000 Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 After seeing his interview on ESPN this morning, I'm convinced that Vince Young will be out of the league in a few years. This is NOT the type of guy you want leading your team. He's got issues, and seems to be in denial about his mental state. He probably has people in his ear telling him that he's "fine" when in actuality that's the furthest from the truth. He needs help. Peter King's take. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/peter_king/06/14/books/3.html >>>1. I think the more Tennessee's Vince Young opens his mouth, the more I'd be scared witless if he was the quarterback of the future of my football team. "I didn't want to play no more,'' Young said -- and he meant forever -- Sunday on ESPN, referring to his dark period early last season when the Titans were worried he might harm himself when his football career was headed south. That's not the first time I've heard Young talk about not wanting to play football anymore. When he missed the plane to Philadelphia as a rookie and got disciplined by coach Jeff Fisher, he went into a funk and had to be talked into even playing in the game against the Eagles. Dude: You're a professional football player. There are ups. There are downs. Face them. Take them.<<< This guy a mental head case and should be kicked out of the league now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadExField Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 Did anyone else see the interview where Young stated "If I'm not the starter for this team after this next season, then I'll go find another team who I can start for." Seems to me he wants to be handed the job... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadExField Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 Here is the interview http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=4250714 "I'm ready to play football... and I don't know a player around the league that doesn't want to play or be a starter" oh so now that you're ready, the Titans should just hand you the job? And if I remember correctly, you didn't want to play, therefore you lost your job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campbell's_da_man Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 Young's only chance of being successful in the NFL hinges on whether or not he can learn under master technician Collins. If not, he will be a bust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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