Fletch_Lives59 Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 according to WTOP http://wtop.com/ http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/22/us/politics/22obama.html?_r=1&hp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnyderShrugged Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 Change!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teller Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 If the president asks you to serve, you have to do it, IMO, so I don't blame Hillary. But I'm VERY disappointed in Obama's choice. It's not my call, of course, but I think Bill Richardson would have been perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toe Jam Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 She has not accepted the position per CNN. You'll have to wait another day to bash Obama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 If the president asks you to serve, you have to do it, IMO, so I don't blame Hillary. But I'm VERY disappointed in Obama's choice.It's not my call, of course, but I think Bill Richardson would have been perfect. If she accepts, he just took her out of the Senate. You should be thrilled. The Clinton would end with this move. If she wants a career in politics she should not accept the position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fletch_Lives59 Posted November 21, 2008 Author Share Posted November 21, 2008 She has not accepted the position per CNN.You'll have to wait another day to bash Obama. oh the "Clinton News Network" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 nbc is saying its pretty much a done deal and will be announced after thanksgiving. he's naming Tim Geithner to treasury on Monday and naming Gen. James Jones as National Security Adviser edit: and apparently Richardson is getting the commerce job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulane Skins Fan Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 Change!!!! Honestly, its not like Hillary and Bill are his best friends... he's picking people that he thinks are smart and competent, and also people that are able to say NO to him. I said it before, but that's actually change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnyderShrugged Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 Honestly, its not like Hillary and Bill are his best friends... he's picking people that he thinks are smart and competent, and also people that are able to say NO to him. I said it before, but that's actually change. Unfortunately, I am not seeing much "change" from Obama thus far. Recycling maybe, but change, No. I really was having some high hopes that maybe he was actually going to bring in Washington outsiders from all walks of life to fill roles in his administration. It was one of the few things that would have earned him some respect from me. Pretty bummed that its back to the old partisan politics as usual with no significant change from what either of the big parties has done before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dictator Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 You know how calling McCain "McSame" or "McShame" was stupid? So is "Billary". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teller Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 If she accepts, he just took her out of the Senate. You should be thrilled. The Clinton would end with this move. If she wants a career in politics she should not accept the position. I'd respectfully disagree. Few people really knew Condoleeza Rice before she was Secretary, let alone National Security Adviser. But it didn't take long, after being named SoS for the presidential talk to start. And really, what better experience is there in preparation to be president than SoS? (Though I grant it's certainly not the traditional path.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulane Skins Fan Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 Unfortunately, I am not seeing much "change" from Obama thus far. Recycling maybe, but change, No.I really was having some high hopes that maybe he was actually going to bring in Washington outsiders from all walks of life to fill roles in his administration. It was one of the few things that would have earned him some respect from me. Pretty bummed that its back to the old partisan politics as usual with no significant change from what either of the big parties has done before. He's not gonna pick Ron Paul no matther how hard you hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fletch_Lives59 Posted November 21, 2008 Author Share Posted November 21, 2008 You know how calling McCain "McSame" or "McShame" was stupid?So is "Billary". cry me a river Dic, if you dont have anything nice to say then dont say ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chachie Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 I'd respectfully disagree.Few people really knew Condoleeza Rice before she was Secretary, let alone National Security Adviser. But it didn't take long, after being named SoS for the presidential talk to start. And really, what better experience is there in preparation to be president than SoS? (Though I grant it's certainly not the traditional path.) Well he did take her out of the 2012 picture if she accepts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dictator Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 cry me a river Dic, if you dont have anything nice to say then dont say ****. oh the irony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallMeGreen Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 Personally I've never been a Hillary fan, but I think this move makes sense in a lot of ways. It keeps her out of the health care debate for one thing. She can have more impact from the Sec of State seat than from the Senate, most likely. A win-win really. And it's another way to heal any bad tastes in the mouth of Hillary supporter, any they just might feel less animosity towards Obama because of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teller Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 Well he did take her out of the 2012 picture if she accepts. That's true. Method to his madness? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USS Redskins Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 Man and I thought the one good thing to come out of an Obama win was that the Clintons would STFU forever or at least until the next election cycle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EersSkins05 Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 I think she's very qualified for the job, but it just seems like there's so many other cabinet positions that would be more conducive to the different ideologies of her and Obama than as Sec of State. As long as she understands that she serves at the pleasure of the President, I think she's a great choice. But I have my doubts about her ability to take orders from Obama. We'll see, I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnyderShrugged Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 He's not gonna pick Ron Paul no matther how hard you hope. Oh I'm 100% positive of that! Wish it wasnt the case though, Paul would make an incredible Treasury Sec.! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsburySkinsFan Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 Word is nothing official until Thanksgiving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoony Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 If true, I'm very dissapointed in this decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teller Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 If true, I'm very dissapointed in this decision. Yeah, but you're just a partisan hack waiting to jump on the slightest little thing. Errr..... Not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McD5 Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 Tom Daschle......Hillary... And in other news.... Obama has just appointed Bill Clinton to be president. Change we can believe in! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cherick Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 I think something important here is what the world leaders think of the change from Condoleeza Rice to Hillary Clinton. Anyone here wants to make a comparison? pros and cons. Is Hillary an upgrade? downgrade? or no change at all from Condoleeza Rice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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