thechalkoutlines Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Now, we've all been poking fun at the guy's knack for dropping INTs for a good couple seasons now... I know his impact on this team is not lost on Redskins fans, but it's kinda ridiculous for the guy to be facing so much pressure regarding this one area of his game that's been lacking. Remember '05, when the the skins picked Carlos Rogers with the 9th pick, after 2 other corners had already come off the board? With Carlos' emergence in '08, it's clear we got the best corner of the bunch. Pac-Man Jones went to Tennessee at #5, and it's safe to say that his maturation has been hijacked by his personal conduct. I don't demonize the guy, but he's missed sooo much PT while he's been perfectly healthy. So the jury's sorta still out on Jones, though it's gotta be unanimous: he's BUST as it stands, especially to Titans fans. Antrel Rolle was regarded as a physical corner coming out of the U, but analysts specifically cited his lack of speed as a concern. He showed flashes of play-making ability, but also battled serious knee injuries early on in his rookie year. He's at Free Safety now, and that's gotta be considered a disappointment. We've seen how dominant safeties can shut down passing games, but he doesn't seem to be that type (ala Sean Taylor, Laron Landry). Carlos was having a career year last year, and he returned an interception for a TD against Detroit shortly before injuring his knee at New England. Now, I've obviously seen way more of Carlos Rogers than the other two guys, but we've seen him step up his physicality to a completely different level. He's making every tackle, he's shutting down #1 receivers, and making our secondary truly scary. Even after missing most of '07, he's still among the top-5 in passes defended over the last 3 years. He's got all the tools. The man's gonna be great for a long time. We put our players under the microscope a lot around here, and I tend to think that's slightly unfair. These guys get paid mad money to do their job, and yes, part of Carlos' job is intercepting the football. Skins fans, he's very, very close. He can catch the football. Elite status is just barely out of his grasp at this point :thumbsup:. Our secondary is so beefed up now! With a healthy Springs (perhaps at FS), and the addition of DeAngelo Hall, our corners will be able to take more risks, and I think we're getting ready to see an explosion out of Carlos. ...Oh and also, Romo sits to pee should be back in business this week (that is, the business of throwing picks) and our secondary will be ready to exploit his carelessness with the football. Can't wait for Sunday night...:dallasuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emor09 Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 i have never said a bad word about Carlos..i don't expect him to ever catch an INT, but i expect him to shut down his man for 60 minutes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Tater Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Well, his penchant for dropping interceptions is really the only thing holding him back from being an elite or nearly so corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 How is he misunderstood? He drops picks, that's not a misunderstanding. He's also a good shutdown corner. Also not a misunderstanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iMeast Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 I think he is having a great year, but he needs to catch a few of those easy INTs that are coming his way. :dallasuck HTTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thechalkoutlines Posted November 12, 2008 Author Share Posted November 12, 2008 yeah... like i tried to express... ES is all about "what have you done for me lately?" or at least a certain group of people on here are... Whatever happened to encouraging your players to do well? The guy can and will intercept more balls. It's only a matter of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2cents Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 I think 'Los is like the offense, soon he will get two INTs in a game and take them both back for TD, just like I think someday soon the O will rack up 40 by scoring all TDs instead of field goals. Here is to both happening on Sunday night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stew Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Catching those dropped INT's will elevate his game to the next level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thechalkoutlines Posted November 12, 2008 Author Share Posted November 12, 2008 I think 'Los is like the offense, soon he will get two INTs in a game and take them both back for TD, just like I think someday soon the O will rack up 40 by scoring all TDs instead of field goals. Here is to both happening on Sunday night. Here here! Keep it positive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefinonhaze Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Carlos is a beast, my buddy whos a ravens fan even said he wishes they had Rogers over Mccalister and Rolle, because not only can Rogers cover he can tackle as well and thats very rare to find in a corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRobi21 Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Los is a top notch CB for us. Anyone who thinks otherwise is dumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rexx1240 Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Los is a top notch CB for us. Anyone who thinks otherwise is dumb. Well-stated:cheers: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 I agree. But too many people here are too sensitive to things that are said. Los needs to improve his catching skill. That's not being negative, it's the truth. He's a great corner, I love having him. There's nothing wrong with his coverage, he's like a blanket out there. But there's room for improvement in everyone. Los is no exception Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskool Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Rogers is turning into a pretty good #2 CB in this league and has come up pretty big with Springs being out, with a few exceptions. However, he has hands that Roberto Duran would envy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaydogg3eb Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Not that it matters, but there are two facts in the OP's post that are misunderstood. First, we drafted Carlos in 2005, not 2004. Second, he didnt' return a pick six against the Packers. It was Detroit at the end of the game. Just wanted to point that out in case anyone got confused. Now, in response to your post. I love Carlos, and I think he's having a Pro Bowl year. I know I definitely voted for him to go to Hawaii (I actually vote for who I think should go, regardless of team). But the guy has dropped two very crucial and game-changing picks that would have gone for six. In 2005, if he makes that interception against Seattle in the paloffs, he would have taken it to the house and it would have been a huge momentum swing, and we probably win that game. Then, take a look back at last week. He gets that interception and takes it to the house, we're up 13-3 at the end of the first half with big time momentum. Both of those were "easy" picks that he dropped. On the other hand, he did make an amazing interception against Arizona that helped us to win that game. Strange how he drops the easy ones, but intercepts the toughies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thechalkoutlines Posted November 12, 2008 Author Share Posted November 12, 2008 Yeah, I'm waiting for him to take over games, like Springs did last year, to consider him an elite corner. But he's turned out to be the best corner of his draft class, no question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooper Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Carlos Rogers is having a great season. Every week he shuts down the other team's best receiver. Plays hard every down. We're lucky to have him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thechalkoutlines Posted November 12, 2008 Author Share Posted November 12, 2008 Not that it matters, but there are two facts in the OP's post that are misunderstood. First, we drafted Carlos in 2005, not 2004. Second, he didnt' return a pick six against the Packers. It was Detroit at the end of the game. Just wanted to point that out in case anyone got confused. thanks, I remember now. He definitely dropped a sure pick six in the GB game... haha :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoudMouth12thMan Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 I just can't understand why he can't catch the rock. It's like the guy that you played (name the sport) with and you could see that he was something special but there was always one thing that was lacking, keeping him from being great. Obviously, Carlos is a professional, but I'm sure that if you asked some of his teammates off the recorded, they'd tell you that they think highly of Carlos but he just lacks that great quality that Pro Bowl corners possess...coordination and game-changing situational awareness...or "hands" as we call it. :2cents: Gosh I hope he proves me wrong one day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2cents Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 I have always thought he might need a serious eye exam. I am not trying to be funny, I know someone who had trouble picking things up, and an eye doctor found out he had some depth perception issues, and Lasic took care of his problem. Maybe he needs the perverbial "eye check". It can't hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thechalkoutlines Posted November 12, 2008 Author Share Posted November 12, 2008 I have always thought he might need a serious eye exam. I am not trying to be funny, I know someone who had trouble picking things up, and an eye doctor found out he had some depth perception issues, and Lasic took care of his problem. Maybe he needs the perverbial "eye check". It can't hurt. It worked for Christian Guzman... hehe not every day you get to shout out the Nats in the stadium Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbodiesel#44 Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 I have always thought he might need a serious eye exam. I am not trying to be funny, I know someone who had trouble picking things up, and an eye doctor found out he had some depth perception issues, and Lasic took care of his problem. Maybe he needs the perverbial "eye check". It can't hurt.As silly as that sounds, if I were his coach I would require he get an eye exam straight away. And then send him to a neurologist next if his sight tests OK. He has proven himself to be a top level athlete. There must be some explanation for his freakish inability to catch a ball. I mean, c'mon. He drops almost everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peregrine Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 First, I like Rogers. I think he has played very well this year. But the idea that he is a good CB because the other two guys in front of him are worse is a joke. That could merely mean he is better than two bad CB's. Yeah, I am better in coverage than Roy Williams, but what does that really say? Rogers really has to catch those easy interceptions. There just isn't any excuse for an NFL DB to drop balls that easy, that could be such game changing plays. I don't think Rogers can really be labeled a really good CB until he starts catching those balls. Its not that hard to catch a football, the man just needs to practice. If he wants to be considered a great NFL corner, its up to him, not us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 When looking at Rogers and his lack of pics, one thing comes to mind. Darrell Green. No, I'm not comparing him to Green. In an interview before he retired, Darrell said that if he had a dime for every pass he dropped, he'd be a rich man and could retire sooner. We all want, and we need pics, but the bottom line is keeping the ball out of the recievers hands. Rogers has done an exceptional job thus far this season. The best part is, his injury normally takes two seasons to really get back to your old self. We should see more speed out of him come next spring, and his play has been more agressive then ever before. He has a bright future........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backpack3r Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 We all still love Carlos, and no one can deny that he is playing the best he has ever played this year, but he really needs to be able to catch the ball. Our defense is playing outstanding but not forcing a lot of turnovers, if he could hold onto the ball, he would seriosuly be an elite corner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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