borninblood Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 kstp. com — Could there be a calculated, cross-country plot to kill young college men, including some in Minnesota? It seems a little hard to believe, but two New York detectives say they can prove it. City after city, when they'd find the spot where the body went in, they would find something else: The symbol of a smiley face. *Links Fixed* check out the link for the full article http://kstp.com/article/stories/S421846.shtml?cat=1? http://digg.com/world_news/Smiley_Face_Serial_Killer_of_College_Men_Nationwide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 Links dont work, but i heard about this. I think their method of killing is drowning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DButz65 Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 And they released the smiley used at the crime scenes.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 Personally, i'd go with Mr. Yuck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfan07 Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 Heres an image of the real smiley face symbol. Sounds like a modern day Zodiac. Story below.......... DETECTIVES: Chris Jenkins murder connects dozens around country Could there be a calculated, cross-country plot to kill young college men, including some in Minnesota? It seems a little hard to believe, but two New York detectives say they can prove it. Now, they are revealing years of their evidence for the first time to 5 EYEWITNESS NEWS... GO DEEPER INTO THE INVESTIGATION: THE JENKINS FILE: Rarely-seen documents related to the Chris Jenkins murder case Interactive Map of victims possibly linked by the investigation Visual timeline of the Jenkins murder case in Minneapolis Extended video clips of detectives discussing the case Kristi Piehl and John Mason talk about how the case has developed List of possible Minn. and Wisc. victims Kristi Piehl: How the story came about Listen to Kristi Piehl talk about the story on the KQRS Morning Show University of Minnesota college student Chris Jenkins was found in the Mississippi River in February of 2003. Minneapolis Police began investigating the case, which also caught the attention of two retired NYPD detectives. Turns out, Jenkins' death was the missing part of the puzzle for Kevin Gannon and Anthony Duarte. They think Jenkins connects dozens of other deaths around the country over the last decade. The stories are the same all over the country--an athletic, intelligent, well-liked college student goes missing. Family and friends launch a massive search. Weeks or months later, the young man is discovered drowned. In more than 40 cases, the deaths are blamed on a drunken accident--except for one. The death of Chris Jenkins in Minneapolis is the only one "The level of evil we are dealing with here is rampant, it's deep and it's widespread," Chris' mother Jan Jenkins told 5 EYEWITNESS NEWS where the cause of death was changed from 'undetermined' or 'drowning' to 'homicide.' "I can honestly tell you that I've walked every step of the way and it is hard for me to believe," Chris' mother Jan Jenkins told 5 EYEWITNESS NEWS. "The level of evil we are dealing with here is rampant, it's deep and it's widespread." Because of extensive investigation by Duarte and Gannon, Jan Jenkins now says she knows exactly what happened to her son on the night he disappeared, Oct. 31, 2002. "Chris was abducted in a cargo van," she said. "He was driven around Minneapolis for hours and tortured. He was taken down to the Mississippi River and he was murdered. And after that, his body was positioned and taken to a different spot and then to a different point in the Mississippi River," she said. Gannon and Duarte say they've discovered a link between Jenkins' death and the drownings of at least 40 other men in 25 cities in 11 different states. It began in New York The investigation started 11 years ago in New York when then-Sgt. Gannon made a promise to the parents of Patrick McNeill. Patrick McNeill was last seen at a New York City bar in 1997. His body was found 50 days later, 11 miles downriver. "We knew it wasn't suicide," said Patrick McNeil's mother Jackie McNeill "We knew it wasn't suicide," said Patrick McNeill's mother Jackie McNeill. "It was one of those things where he walked out and was never seen again." One of the only things comforting the McNeills is Gannon, a decorated officer with a long history in the New York City Police Department. "I told them I would never give up on the case," Gannon told 5 EYEWITNESS NEWS. When Gannon retired, he devoted his life to keeping his promise to the McNeill family. "We've been doing this on our own, our own finances," Gannon explained. "We've never taken a penny from any of the families. I personally have mortgaged my own home to investigate this." According to Gannon's ally, Duarte, this is almost 'a perfect crime' because the water washes away any physical evidence and there are never any witnesses. Almost all of the men are last seen by friends leaving a bar or college party. "I think it is a serial killer, but not one individual," Anthony Duarte said Local police have investigated the deaths and the FBI has even taken a look at the cases. In every case except for the Jenkins case, local law enforcement has ruled the death an accident. "I think it is a serial killer, but not one individual. I would just say, a group of individuals, probably located in more than one state," Duarte said, adding that he thinks they may kill again. 'Sick Signature' Gannon and Duarte have done something that no other law enforcement agency has ever done in this case -- they looked at the big picture and visited each site where the young men disappeared. While most local investigations focused on where a body was recovered, Gannon and Duarte tried to figure out where the body went into the river. City after city, when they'd find the spot where the body went into the water, they would find something else: The symbol of a smiley face City after city, when they'd find the spot where the body went in, they would find something else: The symbol of a smiley face. "It's very disturbing," Duarte said. The paint color and size of the face varies, but the detectives are convinced that it's a sick signature the killers leave behind. They found one eight years ago in Wisconsin and then others in Ohio, Pennsylvania and Indiana. Then most recently, they believe they've found one in Iowa. In Michigan, they found something strange among the group's graffiti: the word 'Sinsiniwa.' They couldn't figure out what it meant until a few months later when they arrived in Dubuque, Iowa to investigate the death of Matt Kruziki. His body was found on Sinsiniwa Avenue. Plus, they've discovered the nicknames of people in the group at more than one location. Two years ago, already entrenched in their investigation, Gannon and Duarte came to Minnesota. They connected with St. Cloud State College Professor Lee Gilbertson. Gilbertson had challenged his criminology students to search for patterns in the 11 disappearances of Minnesota and Wisconsin college students. Why go public? Gannon and Duarte are now confident they've discovered a nationwide criminal enterprise. The detectives say they have to go public to 'protect the innocent and prosecute the guilty.' "If nothing else, we have to warn the families and the young individuals so that no one else becomes a victim," Gannon said. "If nothing else, we have to warn the families and the young individuals so that no one else becomes a victim," Kevin Gannon told 5 EYEWITNESS NEWS Duarte added, "Other kids are at risk, yes, it's very frustrating." Gannon and Duarte want their investigation to prompt changes in the way drownings are investigated. They say medical examiners frequently don't even consider murder when looking at the body of a drowning victim. The detectives requested that 5 EYEWITNESS NEWS hold back some key details of the murders such as motive and the identities of the informants. They hope that information will someday be used to file criminal charges. They have already taken all of this evidence in the Jenkins case to Minneapolis Police and Hennepin County prosecutors--so why haven't they taken action? We will ask them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DButz65 Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 Or maybe the reaper smiley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 I prefer :dallasuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chump Bailey Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 Apparently the FBI does not believe this is a serial case. I wonder why when there does appear to be an obvious connection. The FBI believes this is merely coincidence regarding the M.O.? I found that hard to swallow since they're most definitely not in the business of buying into such things. I also cannot believe this is some elaborate sick ruse. Hopefully the cases will get more exposure soon. I've heard of some of the deaths and about how detectives were suspicious about the nature of the crimes - the Minnesota case in particular. I've never heard of the 'smiley face Internet serial killer group' theory however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimmySmith Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 Apparently the FBI does not believe this is a serial case. I wonder why when there does appear to be an obvious connection. The FBI believes this is merely coincidence regarding the M.O.? I found that hard to swallow since they're most definitely not in the business of buying into such things. I also cannot believe this is some elaborate sick ruse. The sniper case taught us all about the FBI. He'd still be shooting and we would still be looking in box trucks if they were in charge. They go strictly on computer models and profiles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeesburgSkinFan Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 Links dont work, but i heard about this. I think their method of killing is drowning. Were you at WVU in spring 2001? There was a Pitt student there one weekend who went missing and drowned in the Mon River. That sounds somewhat like this case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 The sniper case taught us all about the FBI. He'd still be shooting and we would still be looking in box trucks if they were in charge. They go strictly on computer models and profiles. There is a lot of truth to that,by their methods they are at a disadvantage when dealing with new/abnormal phenomena. But they do fairly well overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimmySmith Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 There is a lot of truth to that,by their methods they are at a disadvantage when dealing with new/abnormal phenomena.But they do fairly well overall. I agree that the FBI does a fine job. Although "Silence of the Lambs" would have you believe otherwise, the FBI does not really have a strong history in catching serial killers. It's not really what they do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavens Safety 21 Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 This is really strange... I can not believe they haven't found who is doing this. There has been soo many guys that have supposdly drowned...I hope they find whoever is doing this soon. The smiley face thing is very creepy to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 Were you at WVU in spring 2001? There was a Pitt student there one weekend who went missing and drowned in the Mon River. That sounds somewhat like this case. Yep, happened about 500 yards from my apartment. The story was that he just got drunk and lost........and everyone was like "ok, he got drunk and lost........but then drowned in a river?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan T. Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 The Jenkins case is haunting and intriguing. I'm trying to figure out how they got from a closed "drowning" case to "Chris was abducted in a cargo van. He was driven around Minneapolis for hours and tortured. He was taken down to the Mississippi River and he was murdered. And after that, his body was positioned and taken to a different spot and then to a different point in the Mississippi River." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McMetal Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 I liked this theory better the first time I heard it, in the movie "Cobra" starring Sylvester Stallone. I love a good serial killer story as much as anyone, but the "evidence" seems pretty flimsy and the theory is largely conjecture. A smiley face is a common graffitti tag and if you researched the statistical probability it certainly would bear that out. Nothing these guys have uncovered would even lead to a grand jury indictment, much less hold up in court. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooma Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 Apparently the FBI does not believe this is a serial case. I wonder why when there does appear to be an obvious connection. The FBI believes this is merely coincidence regarding the M.O.? I found that hard to swallow since they're most definitely not in the business of buying into such things. I also cannot believe this is some elaborate sick ruse. . This was on Good Morning America the other morning and I thought the FBI was working with those two cops on it??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borninblood Posted April 29, 2008 Author Share Posted April 29, 2008 At least he is a happy serial killer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan T. Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 This was on Good Morning America the other morning and I thought the FBI was working with those two cops on it??? The Jenkins case is one of the few officially listed as a homicide. And it was closed by the Minneapolis Police before being reopened and listed as a homicide because of the dogged persistence of his family. There were way too many weird things about the Jenkins case for it to be dismissed as accidental or a suicide. To me, the strangest was that the body was found in the water 4 months after he disappeared, yet both of his clog-style shoes were still on his feet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Sick Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 Nothing these guys have uncovered would even lead to a grand jury indictment, much less hold up in court. It always helps to have an actual suspect when you try for a grand jury indictment... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borninblood Posted April 30, 2008 Author Share Posted April 30, 2008 I just saw them talking about it on greta van sustren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#98QBKiller Posted May 22, 2008 Share Posted May 22, 2008 CNN finally ran a story on this: http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/05/21/smiley.face.killer/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HogNose Posted May 22, 2008 Share Posted May 22, 2008 Maybe all these guys were just bad swimmers. :2cents: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Washington Posted May 22, 2008 Share Posted May 22, 2008 I would imagine they lure the guys in with sex or even a bang-bus style adventure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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