Heavens Safety 21 Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 Why are we even responding to these very ignorant Seahawk fans...let Saturday speak for its self. They wont have anything to say after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sideshow24 Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 We played 40% of those teams. One at home and one on the road. Beat them both...NEXT! did you play three of them twice ********? No, because if you did you'd be sitting there watching us kick another teams sorry butt instead of yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger Landry Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 Did anyone hear the post-game show on Redskins Radio yesterday? Sonny, Sam and Larry as well as Bram at a different point in time all said that part of the crowd noise sounded artificial and that it sounded like extra volume of crowd cheering was being pumped in through the speakers.....wouldn't doubt it for a second (because they do it at FedEx field and I sit directly below speakers in the UDeck and have heard it!) ....and their fans think they're so freaking special..Our fans blow theirs away!! HAIL!!! :logo: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thirtyfive2seven Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 they do it at Fed Ex? Doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OWUeagleMD Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 they do it at Fed Ex? Doubt it. The Redskins have been penalized for doing it in the past. Documented fact, not speculation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskins4life234 Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 (because they do it at FedEx field and I sit directly below speakers in the UDeck and have heard it!) ....HAIL!!! :logo: Nah, they don't do it at fedex, what is happening is the annoucer leaves the mic on, and the fan noise just goes into the mic, which then makes it a little bit louder, I have heard it before. Unless that is what piping is, then well we do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OWUeagleMD Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 Nah, they don't do it at fedex, what is happening is the annoucer leaves the mic on, and the fan noise just goes into the mic, which then makes it a little bit louder, I have heard it before. What about the time the Redskins were fined by the NFL for it, during the 2000 season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganTerp Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 we had what, one false start? and one delay of game because of it? thats really not that impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwitt Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 That home field advantage they have is borderline unfair. Maybe Snyder should start construction on a carbon copy of Qwest Field right now. A lot of you have blamed our offensive line for yesterday's loss but I think the crowd played a huge part here too. Normally a line has split second jump on the snap since they know the count. But since they could hear nothing yesterday, that was negated and may explain how Seattle's D-Line was in our backfield all day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDawkinsSucks Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 Many teams (ie Seahawks, Colts) are known to have articifial crowd noise, which is illegal, but since it makes the games sound exciting on TV, league administrators and referrees turn a blind eye, and they aren't motivated to thoroughly investigate it. So if other stadiums are being condoned for it, why aren't we exploiting it like these other Superbowl contention teams? Understandably, we can't request Snider to do it publically (nor privately unless you are friends with Snider) to play crowd noise over the speakers, so why don't we be proactive about it as fans, and make a highly organized/clever 12th man of our own? There are some really loud handheld horns out there that squawk and bleet really intensely. If all the fans in the endzones can pound these horns when the QB is making his Hut-Hut cadence, we can drown him out so that his O-line can't hear. Then it's "False start, number 60, offense, 5 yards..." all day, especially against shotgun teams, when backed up in their own 5 yd line, or threatening to score at our 5 yd line. If horns aren't allowed, the endzones need to get organized and mimic the Hut-Hut verbally, instead of just screaming senselessly (screaming senselessly should be done while the visiting team is huddling). This type of organization/innovation is needed to make the best 12th man in the league. Also when kickers are attempting a fieldgoal, instead of everyone behind the uprights shaking their arms crazily, everyone needs to get organized and perform a synchronized left-to-right (and viceversa) crowd wave, so that instead of the crowd behind the fieldgoal appearing as just a whitenoise shimmer, it will look like the crowd and the fieldgoal is actually swaying side-to-side, creating a sense of vertigo in the kicker when he's lining up his kick. Just like a rookie QB, the crowd 12th man will have to have several games under our belt to get as organized as we need to be to do the above. But with a few leaders in the endzone sections of the stadium, I believe we can get there by the time next years playoffs roll around. Let's go skins! 2008-2009 Superbowl Champs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedskinsNation Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 What about the time the Redskins were fined by the NFL for it, during the 2000 season? Link? I'd like to read about it, i dont remember this happeneing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskins4life234 Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 What about the time the Redskins were fined by the NFL for it, during the 2000 season? What about that was 8 years ago? Doesn't mean they do it to the day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffSchmeff Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 What about the time the Redskins were fined by the NFL for it, during the 2000 season? Do you have a link with proof? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDRedskinsFan Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 I remember back in 2003 during a hotly contested game with the Ravens, Baltimore came back to win like 44-41 (who thought they were capable of putting up that many points?). Anyhow, after the game, Holmgren whined that the P.A. announcer up there incited the crowd by emphasizing "3rd down" or something, and the Ravens were told not to do that anymore. Yet Seattle thinks they can get away with this stuff because of the design of the stadium? Unfortunately because the design in fact pumps noise back into the field, there isn't any way to prove that they do pump in sound without an NFL official sitting in the last 2 rows of that stadium, which would never happen. I'm just glad they'll get killed in Green Bay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OWUeagleMD Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 What about that was 8 years ago? Doesn't mean they do it to the day No, it doesn't. Actually, it's probably a pretty good indication that they don't do it anymore, since they've been penalized once. I posted a link to this once a few years ago. It was tough to find an article on it, but I was back in college then and had access to EBSCO and Lexis-Nexis. I'll run a search through my old posts and see if I can find the post I made. Ironically, I think it was from a Seattle newspaper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewCliche21 Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 Wow. I really hope that this is a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Edds Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 Did anyone hear the post-game show on Redskins Radio yesterday? Sonny, Sam and Larry as well as Bram at a different point in time all said that part of the crowd noise sounded artificial and that it sounded like extra volume of crowd cheering was being pumped in through the speakers.....wouldn't doubt it for a second (because they do it at FedEx field and I sit directly below speakers in the UDeck and have heard it!) ....and their fans think they're so freaking special..Our fans blow theirs away!! HAIL!!! :logo: a buddy of mine was at the game. he just moved to Seattle a few months ago. He is a skins fan but is not as crazy about football as most folks around here. He roots for Seattle since he lives there, but only when they are not playing the skins. He is more of a casual fan. he texted me in 2nd quarter and said they were definitely pumping noise in. That he could talk to the folks around him and hear it blasting out of the speakers at times when the crowd wasn't into it. Doesn't really matter, but i thought that was interesting, considering they make such a big deal about how their fans are just so much louder than anywhere else. That is a tough place to play regardless, I have no problem with it. But it's kind of comical in a way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HailGreen28 Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 How about petitioning to have overhangs put on Fed Ex? That's legal, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger Landry Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 I sit 2 rows from the top at Fed Ex on on several occassions the noise level went up about 25% from the speakers directly above my head. The first time about 5 other fans and I all looked at each other and said "did you hear that?" It was definitely way louder than what the stadium was producing and you could hear the suddeness of it being cut off......I don't know if it's a soundtrack of crowd noise or if is a live microphone getting actual crowd noise and then spitting it back out of the overhead speakers, but it's definitely being done at Fed Ex here and now..heard it probably at at least 3 of the games this year... It's not like we don't already produce enough crowd noise on our own...Skins fans are truly the 12th man in the NFL! HAIL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hail2skins Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 I thought in 2000 we got our wrists slapped because of something the obnoxious PA guy at FedEx was doing, not because of pumped in noise. I don't think it happens every game but more than several folks have noticed what seems to be fake noise coming in at FedEx. It seems like the only way we're going to be able to show how loud our fans will be is if we host a playoff game again. The crowd does perform well from time to time, but I've never experienced the sustained intensity at that place that I witnessed during the playoff game against Detroit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OWUeagleMD Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 Well, I've found an article from the St. Paul Pioneer Press about the time the Redskins were fined. I was right that it was in 2000, Oct 9th to be exact. They were fined $20,000. Unfortunately, the St. Paul Pioneer Press charges for access to the full article. The abstract from Google news, though, reads as follows: [Oct 24, 2000] ... in the noise level at the Metrodome on Sunday than at any other game this season, and he added that the team does not use artificial noises. ... On Oct. 9, the Washington Redskins were fined $20000 for violating the NFL's crowd noise rule in a game at FedEx Field against the Tampa Bay ... From CULPEPPER PUSHED FOR PRO BOWL - St. Paul Pioneer Press ($$) Related stories - Related web pages Here is a link to the search results: http://news.google.com/archivesearch?hl=en&resnum=0&q=FEDEX+Field+Artificial+Crowd+Noise&as_ldate=2000&as_hdate=2000&um=1&ie=UTF-8&scoring=t&sa=X&oi=archive&ct=title Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corsair_joe Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 yeah, I thought the 2000 issue was due to inappropriate comments made by the PA guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spjunkies Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 I find pumping in noise to be disgusting and I hope they cut it out at fedex. Like I said yesterday, building a stadium to hold in noise like that is also bush league but it's not much the league can do about it since the POS is up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awm4328 Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 from a 20 year seahawk season ticket holder - isn't every home team crowd special to the home team? i'm sure the skin fans take as much pride in the way they support their team as do the seahawks fans, and it was a lot of fun yesterday. we didn't sit down the whole game, and only shut up when the shawk offense had the ball. and when trufant was running back the interception, well, if you watched, you heard the crowd - it was pandemonium. there's a reason the hawks are 25-3 at home over the last 3 years - the confidence and emotion the team gets from the home crowd is a huge factor in a game. also, the nfl checked out qwest field after a giants game two years ago - nothing is piped in, it is that loud. good luck next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadow32 Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 The Redskins have been penalized for doing it in the past. Documented fact, not speculation. If I remember, the skins weren't fined for artificial noise, they were fined because of what the PA announcer did. Here is an article describing what happened: "Before the game, the public-address announcer yelled a derogatory phrase about the Ravens fans that ended in a mild obscenity." Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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