DixieFlatline Posted December 24, 2007 Share Posted December 24, 2007 Ok, guys...i'm just as excited as everyone of you today, but if there is one thing from the game last night that got me a little perturbed it was us going for the 2 point conversion in the first half. And last week we went for it in the middle of the 3rd. Now, I've always believed you take your one point and not worry about 2 pt conversions until late in the game because you don't know what the situation will be. Last night, if we had just taken the 1 pt, then when the Vikings got it to within 11, it really would have been 12. Thereby, needing two TDs versus a TD (with 2 pt conversion) and a FG. It made me pretty nervous if truth be told. What do y'all think about going for 2 pts so early in the game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hail2skins Posted December 24, 2007 Share Posted December 24, 2007 I agree with you.....I don't like going for 2 until its absolutely vital. Having said that, I think the decision may have been made then because we had just scored on a trick play and had them reeling. And we should have converted.....Cooley dropped it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskins59 Posted December 24, 2007 Share Posted December 24, 2007 Actually, if you think about it, it makes some sense. A two point conversion would have us at 24-0. That would mean Minnesota would need to score 3 touchdowns and a field goal just to tie the game. A 1 pointer would basically be meaningless. That was actually a good call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aireskoi Posted December 24, 2007 Share Posted December 24, 2007 No chart until the 4th quarter, then only if the team is still close enough to hurt you. Take the point, you don't have to risk going for 2 when you are dominating the other team. It's like you are planning on them scoring a bunch anyway so you will need the 2. Just keep playing and it will work out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSJHWT Posted December 24, 2007 Share Posted December 24, 2007 I LOVED the call, couldn't believe in the middle of the game so many people were unhappy with the call, showing agression and going for the throat. I hope to see more of the shame in our Dallas game and into the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragemdw Posted December 24, 2007 Share Posted December 24, 2007 Its the first half, you have to take any points you can get. That one point had potential to huge. As in maybe minnesota needing two- two point conversions instead of 1 if the game got closer. But that didnt happen. Take any points you can get when you have the lead early!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cakmoney61 Posted December 24, 2007 Share Posted December 24, 2007 The situation dictates when to go for 2 points. In my opinion, that wasn't the time to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Posted December 24, 2007 Share Posted December 24, 2007 It was a good call, having 22 points vs. 24 points. It's 3 tds and one 2 point conversion away vs. 3 tds and a field goal away. We would have made it a four posession game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragemdw Posted December 24, 2007 Share Posted December 24, 2007 23 is three tds and 2-two point conversions. The way are defense was playing they would have stopped at least one!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandymac27 Posted December 24, 2007 Share Posted December 24, 2007 Not saying it was the most appropriate time for a 2 pointer, but I have to say I love t when we take chances like that. Shows we have some...well, you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McMetal Posted December 24, 2007 Share Posted December 24, 2007 I agree that was way too early...it ended up putting us in a bad position later because we were only up 11 (two scores) instead of 12 (3 scores). That is a big swing, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOVA2Tampa Posted December 24, 2007 Share Posted December 24, 2007 Screw it...we won...'nuff said! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clubisyohankovic Posted December 24, 2007 Share Posted December 24, 2007 No chart until the 4th quarter, then only if the team is still close enough to hurt you. Take the point, you don't have to risk going for 2 when you are dominating the other team. It's like you are planning on them scoring a bunch anyway so you will need the 2. Just keep playing and it will work out. ^^^^^ Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DixieFlatline Posted December 24, 2007 Author Share Posted December 24, 2007 Not saying it was the most appropriate time for a 2 pointer, but I have to say I love t when we take chances like that. Shows we have some...well, you know. I agree it shows we have some ..... well, you know.... That's good to see, just wish we show them at the appropriate times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backpack3r Posted December 24, 2007 Share Posted December 24, 2007 I dont like going for 2 points that early either, I was against it when he brought the offense back out there, but oh well lol, we won ****es! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkB452 Posted December 24, 2007 Share Posted December 24, 2007 Ok, guys...i'm just as excited as everyone of you today, but if there is one thing from the game last night that got me a little perturbed it was us going for the 2 point conversion in the first half. And last week we went for it in the middle of the 3rd.Now, I've always believed you take your one point and not worry about 2 pt conversions until late in the game because you don't know what the situation will be. Last night, if we had just taken the 1 pt, then when the Vikings got it to within 11, it really would have been 12. Thereby, needing two TDs versus a TD (with 2 pt conversion) and a FG. It made me pretty nervous if truth be told. What do y'all think about going for 2 pts so early in the game? >> This gets into the topic of end-game game theory. http://www.technologyreview.com/Infotech/17383/page1/ IMHO, outside of the 4th quarter, go for 1, there are too many things that can happen (look what happened to Dallas with the game at FedEx in 2006). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stbabyy Posted December 24, 2007 Share Posted December 24, 2007 You all sound like the way Gibbs used to calls. And people used to ***** about it. Be happy he's going for their heads now, that kind of attitude is going to make us go far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DixieFlatline Posted December 24, 2007 Author Share Posted December 24, 2007 >> This gets into the topic of end-game game theory. http://www.technologyreview.com/Infotech/17383/page1/ IMHO, outside of the 4th quarter, go for 1, there are too many things that can happen (look what happened to Dallas with the game at FedEx in 2006). Interesting article. At first blush, I hope they don't approve that technology for use. There is something about having the human element involved in decision making that makes the game more enjoyable. Now that being said......let's not go for 2 outside the 4th quarter again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewCliche21 Posted December 24, 2007 Share Posted December 24, 2007 It was the right call. If it's 23 to 21 at the end of the game, and the Vikings kick a field goal as time expires, then we're ****ed, which makes the actual difference between taking the extra point and making it 23 to 21 absolutely worthless. However, if we DO make it and it's 24-21, then the field goal only ties the game. It was the right call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Mike Posted December 24, 2007 Share Posted December 24, 2007 Silly people. If one point does not help any more than 0, and 2 points will force your opponent to score a TD rather than a FG to catch you... YOU GO FOR IT. :doh: Damn, some people just need to complain about anything. :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DixieFlatline Posted December 24, 2007 Author Share Posted December 24, 2007 Silly people.If one point does not help any more than 0, and 2 point will force your opponent to score a TD rather than a FG to catch you... YOU GO FOR IT. :doh: Damn, some people just need to complain about anything. :doh: Not sure I get your logic. If we had taken the one point and were up by 12 instead of 11, then they would have needed 2 TDs instead of 1 TD, 2pt conversion, and a FG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MontanaRed Posted December 24, 2007 Share Posted December 24, 2007 Not sure I get your logic. If we had taken the one point and were up by 12 instead of 11, then they would have needed 2 TDs instead of 1 TD, 2pt conversion, and a FG.Because you're looking at it from the perspective of the end of the game, instead of as it happened. The 11 pt. vs. 12 pt. difference is irrelevant because it hadn't happened yet. At the time we scored (just before the half) a two point conversion would have made it 24 - 0 (instead of 23-0). So Vikings would have needed 3 touchdowns and a field goal to tie vs. being one point ahead if we had kicked the PA. I believe the coaches use some kind of "cheat sheet" that has all the various possibilites, and indicates when to go for 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonnyJ Posted December 24, 2007 Share Posted December 24, 2007 You all sound like the way Gibbs used to calls. And people used to ***** about it. Be happy he's going for their heads now, that kind of attitude is going to make us go far. This is my thinking - people always complaining about Gibbs being conservative, etc. If you'll notice, he's not doing that anymore. Going for it on fourth is a no-brainer now, he just does it. I LOVED that 4th and goal call, even if the ref jobbed the team by overturning the TD. He's letting the players decide it and not over-managing. This is a sea-change in Gibbs-think, and it will make this team a serious contender (if not this season, then next) if he sticks with it. It has been a (maybe THE) missing element, and Gibbs has finally accepted it as a necessity (even though it goes against his nature - another testament to his willingness to adapt). On a tactical level, it was the right call, too, as others have pointed out. The team was rolling and it was there for the taking. It also made it a four score game AT THE TIME. Great call. I support it 100%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triple6mafia Posted December 24, 2007 Share Posted December 24, 2007 its easy to say it was a bad call cuase we missed the past two games, however, i like the aggressive play calling. gibbs has really stepped up, going for it on 4th, two point conversions, better play calling late in the game. i love this. its exciting to watch and most importantly, we are winning games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieselfan44 Posted December 24, 2007 Share Posted December 24, 2007 yeah..we gotta quit trying for two, too early...gonna bite us eventually Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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