jrfriedm Posted April 20, 2007 Share Posted April 20, 2007 Agree with the post about Okoye not being available at #9. Landry probably goes to the Vikings and 7, and Okoye to the Falcons at 8. IMO that puts us in a position where there are no must players at #9 unless somehow though its unlikely that Adams drops that far. At that point at #9 I'd look to trade AGAIN if we can find a suitor and pick up even more picks. Maybe someone would want to trade for Levi Brown, who knows. If Branch is still on the board at #9, we've got to get him. If not, I would like to try to drop down a little more, but I think that it will be hard to find a taker, because there just isn't any "must players". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedzoneHunter Posted April 20, 2007 Share Posted April 20, 2007 I'd go for a swap and their 2nd, but not a 3rd. You've got to know that if we move back 3 spots, then you can kiss both, Landry and Okoye goodbye. They'll both be gone before the 9th pick. Minnesota covets Landry and Atlanta Okoye, then we are stuck in the mud again. We need a 1st and a 2nd, or make the pick at #6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
War Paint Posted April 20, 2007 Share Posted April 20, 2007 Even if Miami gets Trent Green, they'll still want Brady Quinn. Trent is 37 and coming off of a severe concussion. I don't see him being a saviour to Miami; however, he would be a perfect mentor to Quinn. We can only hope he slips to us. There are two or three players that could fall to us that would help us with trading down. They are Brady Quinn, Adrian Peterson, and LaRon Landry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaught76 Posted April 20, 2007 Share Posted April 20, 2007 I also think that Minn might be interested in Quinn, which could cause the value of the pick to be even more valuable. However, Quinn and Russell are off the board and landry is there, I think that Minn will probably go for him. Which would be great for us, because then we couldn't make a mistake of not going DL with the (then) #9. Quinn might be the pick for Minnesota, but they just invested Tavaris Jackson as their QB. The only reason they go after Quinn is if they have already given up on Jackson. I think Landry, Anderson, Carriker, or trading down would be the Vikings best options because if they trade down they could still get a decent WR, which they need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted April 20, 2007 Share Posted April 20, 2007 If Branch is still on the board at #9, we've got to get him. If not, I would like to try to drop down a little more, but I think that it will be hard to find a taker, because there just isn't any "must players". Branch on many mocks is much further down in the draft, though some have SF taking him. I love the IDEA of someone like Branch, big 2 gap DT that can clog the run. But the latest reports on him scare me. However, if the FO thinks he's the real deal am all for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrfriedm Posted April 20, 2007 Share Posted April 20, 2007 Branch on many mocks is much further down in the draft, though some have SF taking him. I love the IDEA of someone like Branch, big 2 gap DT that can clog the run. But the latest reports on him scare me. However, if the FO thinks he's the real deal am all for it. What reports? The reports that he has stress fractures in both his legs? Don't you think that if this was true, every NFL team would know about it, and it would have gotten out HOURS of after it had happened, and if you think that he's had them for a while (before the combine) then all the more reason to get him. If he can do that with broken legs, imagine what he will do when (and they will) heal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooper Posted April 20, 2007 Share Posted April 20, 2007 If Quinn is there at six, we would be in great shape. Come on Oakland, take CJ! Then the Browns will take Russell and we'll be able to pick up a pick, maybe even two when the Dolphins or another team trade up with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDSKINZ-RIDEORDIE Posted April 20, 2007 Share Posted April 20, 2007 From the way it's looking, Trent Green is definetly going to Miami. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkforhall Posted April 20, 2007 Share Posted April 20, 2007 Stop with the stupid misleading threads. Did it ruin your whole day? Must suck to be bothered by the little things. I'd much rather see them draft Landry. Been thinking a lot about the killer safety tandem that we would have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaught76 Posted April 20, 2007 Share Posted April 20, 2007 If Oakland doesn't take Calvin Johnson #1, I'll be shocked. With guys like Trent Edwards and Drew Stanton probably going to be available at the beginning of the second round, why wouldn't they take Johnson #1? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veretax Posted April 20, 2007 Share Posted April 20, 2007 No way, Amobi Okoye is there for us at 9. Let's assume this happens, the Dolphins take Quinn at 6, and the top 5 looked like this:1) Russell 2) Adams 3) Peterson 4) Johnson 5) Thomas This makes Minnesota the wildcard team, and in couple of other threads I read on here, I read Minnesota will improve the their defense with 7th pick. Thus, at 7 the Vikings take Landry or trade down. Either way, Landry is off the board. Now, Atlanta is on the clock. Petrino is Okoye's old coach and with Landry off the board the Falcons take Okoye. That leaves us in a worse a position because we just missed 2 of the highest rated defensive players with only the options being: trading down again, drafting Branch (who is rumored to have stress facture), taking Anderson, or taking Carriker. If this occurs, I hope for the trade down again, but if we can't trade down again, then take Anderson. I think if we want Okoye, we have to take him at 6 because if we trade down even to 8 or 9 our chances of landing him or Landry for that matter are gone. I hate to say it, because I have been on the Okoye band wagon for a long time, but I think Gibbs takes Landry with the 6th pick. I agree no way amobie is there at 9. However, that still would likely leave Anderson, Branch, and Carriker. If we got Miami's high second I could see us taking Anderson or Branch, with the hope of drafting a DE or DT with the 2nd Rounder. The question is do we think Branch would last till that 2nd round pick. If not then we could draft him and pray for a salvagable DE to groom behind Daniels. Or we could just add the one position and try to find a CB/Safety so we can not worry about signing springs next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted April 20, 2007 Share Posted April 20, 2007 What reports? The reports that he has stress fractures in both his legs? Don't you think that if this was true, every NFL team would know about it, and it would have gotten out HOURS of after it had happened, and if you think that he's had them for a while (before the combine) then all the more reason to get him. If he can do that with broken legs, imagine what he will do when (and they will) heal. Nope its not about his stress fractures. Have you been looking at the mock drafts over time and watching NFL Network, ESPN, etc? Now they can have it all wrong. But more than any player Branch has been dropping like a rock on MOST mock drafts. More or less its been said that he's out of shape, some teams have concerns about his motor and motivation, some say studying his tapes he takes off too many plays, etc. It's not some radical theory of mine. Branch dropping down the boards has been one of most transparent things going on in the draft. Whether its warranted or not, I have no clue but do some google searches, its not that hard to fine. Heck Kiper dropped him off of his 25 Big board (his ranking of the top 25 players) now like 4 times in a row. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirk Diggler Posted April 20, 2007 Share Posted April 20, 2007 Clubs have overpaid (by the draft chart) before, yes. What makes you think it's likely here? Because we hope they do? They won't give a 2nd up to KC for Green, but they'll dish one over to us for Quinn?Realistically, a 3rd is likely. A 2nd is wildly optimistic. Factor in Vinny, and it's a dream. Remember what San Diego gave to Arizona to move up one spot to #2: Their #3 overall, a second-round pick, a future #1 and Eric Metcalf. You better believe that was because Leaf was viewed as a potential franchise QB. And as mentioned, Miami has an extra #2 from the Wes Welker trade. That makes it a LOT easier to give up a second rounder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illone Posted April 20, 2007 Share Posted April 20, 2007 If Miami is desperate to make a deal for Quinn, then they are gonna have to make an exception on the Draft Pick value chart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gusthecat Posted April 20, 2007 Share Posted April 20, 2007 Can yor imagine how much fun this would be if we had picks in all the first 6 rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorldBFree76 Posted April 20, 2007 Share Posted April 20, 2007 Too logical, therefore it won't happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siven Posted April 20, 2007 Share Posted April 20, 2007 we could squeez a 2nd out of them also, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsManNJ Posted April 20, 2007 Share Posted April 20, 2007 Its just a smoke-screen we won't trade down with them, but if we do then we should trade down with NE and take Meriweather. If we get a 2nd out of Miami then we can take Grubbs or a DL. Then we can take NE 3rd or 4th and draft OL or DL once again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flycoach Posted April 20, 2007 Share Posted April 20, 2007 Value say those 3 places would be closer to a 3rd I think. Or at least, Clayton thinks, and I'll buy it.diff = 250 pts. 'fins 3rd is worth 225 We'd probably still make that trade... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flycoach Posted April 20, 2007 Share Posted April 20, 2007 Too logical, therefore it won't happen. I agree! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsBoss Posted April 20, 2007 Share Posted April 20, 2007 there's going to be a 1,000 more threads just like this one between now and draft day.....too soon to speculate right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjfootballer Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 I think they still might want Quinn even if they get Green. TREnt will be 37 this year and the only other QB not named Culpepper is Cleo Lemon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesbondman Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 Okay. Nice of Clayton to mention it and nice that you think this is news. However I have said this 4 weeks running now so lets make it FIVE. The Dolphins are going to trade with the Redskins and get Quinn. Now here is the scoop that Clayton DOESN'T have. This deal wil go down regardless of whether Miami gets Trent Green. Trent Green is 37 years old. Quinn is the future of the Dolphins. Look for the trade to happen UNLESS the Skins are offered an incredible deal from someone else. But the Dolphins will give up a 3rd round pick to move up 3 spots....and we will all be happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedskinzOwnU Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 Okay. Nice of Clayton to mention it and nice that you think this is news. However I have said this 4 weeks running now so lets make it FIVE.The Dolphins are going to trade with the Redskins and get Quinn. Now here is the scoop that Clayton DOESN'T have. This deal wil go down regardless of whether Miami gets Trent Green. Trent Green is 37 years old. Quinn is the future of the Dolphins. Look for the trade to happen UNLESS the Skins are offered an incredible deal from someone else. But the Dolphins will give up a 3rd round pick to move up 3 spots....and we will all be happy. I think, and hope, you are right. Green is not the answer for any team - even possibly for just one season. If I were the dolphins i would make that trade regardless of what happens with Green. Otherwise, they have no future. A 3rd rounder is a small price to pay to get your potential franchise QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeGibbsThickandthin Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 Okay. Nice of Clayton to mention it and nice that you think this is news. However I have said this 4 weeks running now so lets make it FIVE.The Dolphins are going to trade with the Redskins and get Quinn. Now here is the scoop that Clayton DOESN'T have. This deal wil go down regardless of whether Miami gets Trent Green. Trent Green is 37 years old. Quinn is the future of the Dolphins. Look for the trade to happen UNLESS the Skins are offered an incredible deal from someone else. But the Dolphins will give up a 3rd round pick to move up 3 spots....and we will all be happy. Clayton said that just 10 mins ago. He said the the trade will happen regardless of Trent Green unless the Redskins get a better offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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