Angus Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 NFL could learn from good 'Boys By CHAREAN WILLIAMS Star-Telegram Staff Writer Michael Irvin once was the poster child for the NFL's bad boys. Now, with age on his side, Irvin looks back and sees the cost. He pays it every day. "Young guys need all the help in the world to help them understand the depth of what's happening," said Irvin, a born-again Christian. "When you're 23, 24, 25, you don't think you will regret the things that you are doing. I'm 41, and I'm telling you -- it's what I tell these guys all the time -- you are so going to regret this. "First of all, nobody is going to let you live it down. Every time you walk in a room, this is what they're thinking about. You don't think this when you're young, because you have that 'I'm invincible, and I can overcome anything.' That mentality and that attitude is what makes you great on the football field. But the reality is: People do not have short-term memories. Now, they may let you move past things, but they don't let you forget things." In 1998, two years after Irvin pleaded no contest to cocaine-possession charges, the Cowboys hired Calvin Hill as a consultant. Since then, the team's player-development department has become an NFL model. The Cowboys are one of 15 teams (out of 32) without a player arrest this calendar year, thus avoiding mention on the police blotter standings initiated by Sports Illustrated and profootballtalk.com. "When we were having success, yet at the same time being criticized for bad decisions off the field, we did try to put in place behavior-oriented professionals," Cowboys owner Jerry Jones said. "It has been effective. One of the things that it does is it says to our fans, as well as to our players, that it's a high-priority area for us. We're paying attention. We've got keen sensitivity to it. We want to prove that, while we're not trying to be a judge and jury, that we understand our responsibility." More than 50 NFL players have been arrested in the past 15 months, including six since March 25. The Cowboys have had only one in 15 months, and they quickly cut defensive back Marcus Coleman after he was arrested on suspicion of driving while intoxicated in November. The Cincinnati Bengals had nine players in trouble with the law last season, and even the Indianapolis Colts, whose coach, Tony Dungy, championed doing things "the right way" during Super Bowl week, haven't been immune. The Super Bowl champions have had four players arrested since Jan. 3, including running back Dominic Rhodes, who since has signed a free agent contract with the Oakland Raiders. With the NFL under external and internal pressure to do something about its lawbreakers, commissioner Roger Goodell is promising to unveil a strong code-of-conduct policy before the April 28-29 draft. Tennessee Titans cornerback Pacman Jones, who has had 10 encounters with police since he was drafted two years ago, and Bengals receiver Chris Henry, arrested four times from December 2005 through June 2006, likely are the first to face disciplinary action, having met separately with the commissioner Tuesday. "I don't like it," Goodell said last week at the NFL owners meetings. "I think it's a bad reflection on the National Football League. To some extent, I think it's how we react to it, and making sure that people understand it's not what the National Football League represents. I don't believe it represents our players. I think it's a very few number of players, and I think they're tainting the league and tainting the other players. We intend to try to get to it as quickly as possible and try to remove it." After Hill was hired from the Cleveland Browns nine years ago, the Cowboys pioneered many of the educational programs Goodell has mentioned initiating. Among other things, the Cowboys have an orientation for their rookies, which supplements the league-mandated rookie symposium. The Cowboys' player development department now has director Steve Carichoff, Hill and Dr. Jacqualene Stephens, a psychologist. "The idea is not to be a crutch but to help them understand they are responsible, and there is a great deal of responsibility in being a Dallas Cowboy," said Hill, a running back for the Cowboys from 1969-74. "We want to make sure they understand how to handle themselves, how to handle the money, how to handle the fame. "... The NFL has changed since I played. The microscope is a lot more intense; society is a little different; the money is a lot more. There are more challenges, more temptations and more opportunity for things to go wrong than there were 30 years ago." Irvin, voted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame in February, can attest to that. One of the hardest things he has had to do is to explain his past to his children. "When you hit Google, it's the first stuff that comes up," Irvin said, "and your kids are going to hit Google. The days of moms and dads doing things and their kids never finding out, those days are gone. The Internet won't allow parents to lie any more. "That's what I would tell those guys: If you don't think about yourself, think about your kids. Because, I'm telling you, when they're old enough they're going to ask: Daddy, why? Daddy, what does this mean?" http://www.star-telegram.com/332/story/58853.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsn24 Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 interesting piece Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjfootballer Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 Irvin was caught with a pipe about 2 yrs ago and said it wasn't his. If he's born again, then I'm JC himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaos Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 Irvin was caught with a pipe about 2 yrs ago and said it wasn't his. If he's born again, then I'm JC himself. :laugh: :applause: i was thinking the same thing when i read the beginning. Rocks! Shazaam! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky21 Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: I laughed all the way through that article. The record of the born again Michael Irvin: 1996: charged with misdemeanor possession of over an ounce of marijuana and felony possession of 10+ grams of cocaine 1997: accused by a 23-year-old Dallas woman of holding a gun to her head while teammate Erik Williams and a third unidentified man raped her 1998: sliced teammate Everett McIver's neck in a fight during training camp; McIver was said to have been paid off by Jerry Jones to not bring charges against Irvin 2000: charged with misdemeanor possession of marijuana 2001: charged with felony possession of cocaine 2005: arrested on an outstanding warrant for speeding in Irving, TX after being pulled over for speeding in Plano, TX. Also charged with drug paraphernalia possession after police searched his car and found a drug pipe and plastic baggies with marijuana residue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HapHaszard Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 obviously Irving needs to take the cowboy "how not to get caught" course again. :laugh: :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Jones Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 By CHAREAN WILLIAMSStar-Telegram Staff Writer Serving Tarrant County and all of North Texas Wow, no bias in this piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyRomoProBowl Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 Wow, no bias in this piece. But what does bias have to do with this. What kind of statement is that, why try to discredit something, that is positive...Love it or hate it...it is a good thing that a team has ZERO arrest in the past year, its a shame that there is only 15 teams that can say that...just a flat out shame IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Jones Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 But what does bias have to do with this. What kind of statement is that, why try to discredit something, that is positive...Love it or hate it...it is a good thing that a team has ZERO arrest in the past year, its a shame that there is only 15 teams that can say that...just a flat out shame IMO Not debating that only 15 teams in the NFL had no arrests. Not debating that the pukes had none in the past year. However, using the anti-citizen example that is Irvin to begin article is humorous at best. Also, the pukes have had their share of problem players in the past just like every other team. Lastly, the article had a pro puke bias to it. It was not an article written about the general NFL. However, by your comments you didn't see that. I guess that is your loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peregrine Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 Serious Cowboys fluff piece. NFL could learn from the Cowboys??? What and not the other 14 teams? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OWUeagleMD Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 But what does bias have to do with this. What kind of statement is that, why try to discredit something, that is positive...Love it or hate it...it is a good thing that a team has ZERO arrest in the past year, its a shame that there is only 15 teams that can say that...just a flat out shame IMO I don't know. Of course arrests should be avoided, but I think the general public is guilty of being a bit reactionary right now because of the highly publicized problems of the Bengals and Pac Man Jones. Again, breaking the law is always bad, but the fact that 15 out of 32 teams have had an arrest in the last year isn't the most unfortunate news I've heard in the last hour, let alone something that I feel deserves as much attention as it currently receives. I played college lacrosse at a school of less than 3,000 students. If held to the same standard-- arrests within a year-- I don't know if there would have been a single program at the school that would have come out with a clean... umm... nose. This is a privileged private school with a good reputation. I think there are a number of socio-economic factors that make us believe the NFL has a serious problem. I'd be interested to see what the numbers would be if it only took into account the crimes I would subjectively categorize as "serious." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremiah_Johnson Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: I laughed all the way through that article. The record of the born again Michael Irvin: 1996: charged with misdemeanor possession of over an ounce of marijuana and felony possession of 10+ grams of cocaine 1997: accused by a 23-year-old Dallas woman of holding a gun to her head while teammate Erik Williams and a third unidentified man raped her 1998: sliced teammate Everett McIver's neck in a fight during training camp; McIver was said to have been paid off by Jerry Jones to not bring charges against Irvin 2000: charged with misdemeanor possession of marijuana 2001: charged with felony possession of cocaine 2005: arrested on an outstanding warrant for speeding in Irving, TX after being pulled over for speeding in Plano, TX. Also charged with drug paraphernalia possession after police searched his car and found a drug pipe and plastic baggies with marijuana residue. In Irvins defense, all but one of those incidents happened before he was "born again". And the one that did happen (2005) he said it was a freind of his. So if any of you are on the fence about it, at least know the facts. That being said, I live here in Dallas, and I've run into him a time or two, and hear stories from around town. I don't believe he's changed a bit, but thats just one mans opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THUNDERDOME Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 Serious Cowboys fluff piece. NFL could learn from the Cowboys??? What and not the other 14 teams? My thoughts exactly :applause: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 Wow one whole year I guess the previous 25 years mean nothing? take this poke propaganda else where Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FunBunch7 Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 Irvin was forced to keep his act "somewhat together" working for ESPN...now that that's gone, we'll see... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 this is like a hooker preaching the virtues of chasity :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinSkins Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 Blah...blah...blah. One year does not a conversion make...good works and behavior trump talk every time and all we've heard from Mr. Irvin is talk...as usual. :2cents: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Adama Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 This article has to be a joke. The Cowboys? Come on! That is just too funny. Because they have 1 year without an arrest they are being hailed as a team others should emulate? BS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angus Posted April 6, 2007 Author Share Posted April 6, 2007 Denial is very comforting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tastes Like Chicken Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 Maybe if Art Monk had a role model like Irvin, he'd be in the Hall of Fame by now. We should all be proud of Irvin, he hasn't snorted coke or assisted in a rape today, "allegedly." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo#44 Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 This article has to be a joke. The Cowboys? Come on! That is just too funny. Because they have 1 year without an arrest they are being hailed as a team others should emulate? BS. No, no it's clearly what NOT to do!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 Denial is very comforting. a poke fan would know :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky21 Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 this is like a hooker preaching the virtues of chasity :laugh: :laugh: That's a good one Bubba. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passizle Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 ESPN did not keep Irving clean. There were so many times I saw him with his red puffy eyes and a (I'm freaking wasted) look on his face. That dude was high on national TV. I wonder what his favorite weed is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted April 7, 2007 Share Posted April 7, 2007 Why isn't the Redskins mentioned? They didn't have a player arrested last season, nor the season before that, not since Taylor's rookie off season, and even that had dubious circumstances over what REALLY happened. Even Taylors DUI was thrown out for lack of eveidence, his rookie season and before that you have to go to Bruce Smith being arrested for wreckless driving during Spurriers years for the next person arrested while playing for the Skins... and that too was dismissed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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