Prosperity Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 The War on Drugs claims another innocent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurrayH81 Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 I think the cops are all covering for Dick Cheney and the CIA. The CIA informed DC that there were dangerous terrorists in that house, working on a dirty bomb, and he couldn't resist jumping in there and doing some hunting. /hail:helmet: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 This country has become so disgusting that a 92 year old woman would need a gun to defend herself. I know that gun was not bought to shoot cops. It was to shoot "bad guys". Or if that is not the case, why did she need the gun. Maybe she was a 92 year old drug dealer. Im sure there hasbeen cases. Your conservative cred just took a major hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 Why is it that these stories always seem to get worse the deeper people dig? ATLANTA, Georgia (CNN) -- An informant cited in a search warrant as having purchased narcotics at an elderly Atlanta woman's house denies buying drugs there, authorities say. Undercover officers raiding the 88-year-old woman's house shot her to death last week after she fired on them while they broke down her door in a high-crime neighborhood. Federal prosecutors will investigate the case, Atlanta police Chief Richard Pennington announced Monday. (Watch when the snitch says he got the call to concoct a drug-buy story ) Pennington said the eight-member narcotics squad that took part in the raid has been placed on paid leave while investigators look into the informant's story and the circumstances surrounding the November 21 death of Kathryn Johnston. The informant also told investigators from the Atlanta police internal affairs bureau that he was told to lie about the matter, the chief said. "The FBI will investigate his statements, along with the police officers' statements as well," Pennington said. Authorities said Johnston opened fire on police who tried to enter her home, prying off burglar bars and forcing open her door, [/u]during a "no-knock" drug raid.[/u] Officers returned fire, killing her. Relatives put Johnston's age at 92, but Fulton County medical examiners said she was 88. Neighbors and relatives said the raid had to have been a mistake. They said Johnston lived alone and was so afraid of crime in her neighborhood west of downtown Atlanta that she wouldn't let neighbors who delivered groceries for her come into her home. http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/11/28/atlanta.shooting/index.htmlSo we know from the first article the officer's were in plain clothes. This article adds the fact that this was a no-knock raid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironmic Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 Why is it that these stories always seem to get worse the deeper people dig?http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/11/28/atlanta.shooting/index.html So we know from the first article the officer's were in plain clothes. This article adds the fact that this was a no-knock raid. Im not starting a riot but trust me...If it had been a 92 yr. old White woman shot by 5 plain cloths Black Police officers, the hypocrits would have an entirely different take. Just like if the Guys in the Bachelor Party would have been 7 white males out having a good time and were shot at 55 times by 5 Black police officers the hypocrits would be crying bloody murder :2cents: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 Having some problems making this latest5 claim fit, though. Before the cops shot Grandma, they had no motive to lie, or to get the snitch to lie. Am I supposed to assume they kicked in the door, shot Grandma, then asked for and got a back-dated warrant? If that's the case, then there's a lot more people involved here than a couple cops and a snitch. But before the shooting, they had no motive to lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 But before the shooting, they had no motive to lie.You know this how? Have you considered the possibility that they simply apply the snitches names to warrents? No need for back dating when you have a guy eager to help (because you have his ass if he doesn't). If that situation was going on then this type of result would be how the rest of the world found out about it. A screw up that reversed the leverage position the cops had over the informant. Suddenly they find themselves in a **** storm and he wants no part of it. The other possibility is maybe they leaned on their informant a bit to hard. They demanded something, and he was eager to provide them with "something". They failed to confirm it and just took off on a no-knock raid with a full head of steam and their lazy police work came back to bite them in the ass when the result was a dead old person and a lot of furious neighbors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsburySkinsFan Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 Wow, thats crazy. I don't even know where to start with this one. I don't if I'm more amazed at the whole incident or the fact that she actually hit what she was aiming at! Give this about a year and Jeff Foxworthy will have something like this in a "You might be a Redneck if...." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 You know this how? Have you considered the possibility that they simply apply the snitches names to warrents? No need for back dating when you have a guy eager to help (because you have his ass if he doesn't). If that situation was going on then this type of result would be how the rest of the world found out about it. A screw up that reversed the leverage position the cops had over the informant. Suddenly they find themselves in a **** storm and he wants no part of it. The other possibility is maybe they leaned on their informant a bit to hard. They demanded something, and he was eager to provide them with "something". They failed to confirm it and just took off on a no-knock raid with a full head of steam and their lazy police work came back to bite them in the ass when the result was a dead old person and a lot of furious neighbors. Before the shooting, the cop's motive to lie was what? They were sitting around the station, and one of 'em said "Y'know, I ain't shot me any Grandmas in months. Let's go make up a fake search warrant and kick in somebody's door for grits and shiggles."? (Now, if your point is that just because I can't think of a motive doesn't mean there isn't one, then I'll freely admit that you're correct. I'd believe, for example, a scenario where the cops were leaning on the snitch and the snitch pulled something out of . . . . thin air. Problem I see with that scenario is that if that's the case, then snitch, by claiming "I never told them that", is implicating himself, although now I'm way off in "maybe land". And, I'll point out that if that's the case, then none of the cops have lied, all they're guilty of is "getting bad intel".) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prophet Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 So if someone in plain clothes comes to my door saying police, then they start banging down my door... I'm suppose to believe them? Especially if I haven't been involed in any crime. Any nut can wave a badge, and call out police. I don't blame the old lady. I mean heck she's 88, who knows what kind of neighborhood she lives in. This is a sad situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACW Posted June 1, 2012 Share Posted June 1, 2012 http://www.ajc.com/news/atlanta-citizen-review-board-1447336.html Citizen review board not doing well; a damn shame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted June 1, 2012 Share Posted June 1, 2012 http://www.ajc.com/news/atlanta-citizen-review-board-1447336.htmlCitizen review board not doing well; a damn shame It would be awesome if the entire board was comprised of defense attorneys and former prosecutors that knew from experience what to look for and didn't spend a second concerned with "what officers go through" or any other such insulting nonsense. Higher standards, never lower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACW Posted June 1, 2012 Share Posted June 1, 2012 It would be awesome if the entire board was comprised of defense attorneys and former prosecutors that knew from experience what to look for and didn't spend a second concerned with "what officers go through" or any other such insulting nonsense. Higher standards, never lower.It'd also be awesome if I was a millionaire :kickcan: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HogNose Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 For some reason, i picture the little old lady from the movie... Every which way but loose. I also pictured Anne Ramsey from 'Throw Momma from the Train". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teller Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 I fully support citizen review boards. However, that "story" is laughable. At such point as you shoot two police officers who have knocked an announced, you're no longer "innocent." (I mean, legally you are until proven otherwise. But making her out to be a sweet little old lady who was murdered for no reason is bunk.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 I fully support citizen review boards. However, that "story" is laughable. At such point as you shoot two police officers who have knocked an announced, you're no longer "innocent." (I mean, legally you are until proven otherwise. But making her out to be a sweet little old lady who was murdered for no reason is bunk.) Are you talking about the 92 year old woman? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathryn_Johnston_shooting Might want to catch up on the story HH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 Are you talking about the 92 year old woman? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathryn_Johnston_shooting Might want to catch up on the story HH. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathryn_Johnston_shooting she fired one shot out the door over the officers' heads and they fired 39 shots, five or six of which hit her.[3][6] None of the officers were injured by her gunfire, but Johnston was killed by the officers. Police injuries were later attributed to "friendly fire" from each others' weapons.[2][3][6]One of the officers planted marijuana in Johnston's house after the shooting.[7][8] Later investigations found that the paperwork stating that drugs were present at Johnston's house, which had been the basis for the raid, had been falsified.[3] The officers later admitted to having lied when they submitted cocaine as evidence claiming that they had bought it at Johnston's house.[7] Three officers were tried for manslaughter and other charges surrounding falsification and were sentenced to ten, six, and five years respectively.[3] Interesting going through this thread and seeing some of the comments people made earlier, considering how this turned out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimboDaMan Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 I fully support citizen review boards. However, that "story" is laughable. At such point as you shoot two police officers who have knocked an announced, you're no longer "innocent." (I mean, legally you are until proven otherwise. But making her out to be a sweet little old lady who was murdered for no reason is bunk.)Are you really referring to the case where the Atlanta cops botched a raid, killed an innocent woman in her own home, shot each other in an impressive display of ineptitude, lied about how the operation unfolded, and planted drugs in the woman's home? All of this is established fact, your understanding of the circumstances is faulty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnhay Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 And you're a conservative?Cops kick down an innocent old woman's door. She defends herself with a legal weapon and is slain in return. The police did nothing wrong, there's no reason to question the process? Has this country become this disgusting? What a crock. How the hell can you think that a woman who shoots 3 cops is innocent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 How the hell can you think that a woman who shoots 3 cops is innocent? This thread has turned into self ownage. Post 66 should bring you up to speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimboDaMan Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 How the hell can you think that a woman who shoots 3 cops is innocent?Is it possible my sarcasm detector is broken? Could that really be a serious post? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnhay Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 Dammit! Can we make a 5 year thread bump limit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjfootballer Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 Is no one else impressed that she hit ALL three of the officers at least once? Despite what you see in movies, aiming and hitting your target is not that easy! I was going to say that. 92 years old and has that good of aim. I would have hit the wall, the door and a 1989 Nissan Sentra parked out front, before I'd be able to hit a person. Yes. I noticed that. I did not want to celebrate someone shooting an officer though. Who's celebrating? We're just talking about how accurate a 92 year old woman is with a gun. EDIT: WOW another old thread bumped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsburySkinsFan Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 *edit..... dangit...seriously a six year old thread. :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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