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Great card tonight. It will be interesting to see the PPV numbers.

So how about Dana sitting at ringside with his arm around Jake Shields? We talked about it here a few weeks ago, regarding Jake having an option for another fight on his Strikeforce contract. But I saw Jake saying that the contract also ran out at a certain time, and that it was unlikely that they would be able to get that option fight in before it ran out. Hmmm...

Edit: And then there was the little thing with Dana pointing at him and saying "he's mine"

Jake's going to be in the UFC. I guarantee Dana started talks with him during this season of TUF since he's one of Chuck's coaches. Maybe he can avoid "tampering" charges lol. I think from a financial standpoint and the standpoint of wanting to move up in competition, it's the only thing to do.

I wonder what's going to happen with the MW title if Jake does indeed head to the UFC? There aren't many other guys that are title worthy, other then he and Hendo. Maybe Jacare.

I just watched the Garcia fight and damn that's one of the best fights I've seen in a long time. ****ty decision though. I'm about to go watch the rest of the card, I saw the gifs of the Manny TKO and the Henderson guillotine. Looks like a sweet card. Faber's leg looks like Brock Lesnar's in that pic.

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GSP want Sjields in the UFC too.

Clipped from mmamania:

Props: SportsNet.ca

Quoteworthy:

"[Jake Shields is] a great submission fighter. He's got great technique and takedowns. He's very good at not getting hit standing up, he's a perfect mixed martial artist and he's going to have a long career. He's a very smart guy and I have a lot of respect for this guy. I love watching his fights.... As a matter of fact, there's only a few guys I like to watch in mixed martial arts, to learn, and he's one of them. I like to watch Jake Shields, Anderson Silva, Mauricio Shogun, Lyoto Machida. I like to watch also Fedor and Sakuraba back in the day, the Gracies, but there are few other guys that I like watching for my own personal learning....Shields is amazing. He's of course the guy to beat right now. He's fighting at 185 lbs right now, and he's dominating and beating everyone at 185, and he's (a natural) 170 lbs fighter. He's not only an amazing fighter, he's an amazing jiu-jitsu fighter.... As a proud champion, I want to fight the best and Jake Shields is the best right now."

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that is sickening

in the post fight press conference, Dana said that Aldo wants to drop to 135 win the title, then eventually move up to the UFC's 155lbs division. his ultimate goal is to be the first to win titles in 3 different divisions. being that he's only 23yrs old, i would imagine his frame can support a move to 155. its a longshot, but i wouldn't bet against him doing it

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http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2010/4/26/1445329/crime-scene-investigation-unit-at

"TMZ has learned Tito Ortiz was just arrested for felony domestic violence at the home he shares with Jenna Jameson."

"We're told when cops arrived to the home in Huntington Beach, CA -- Jenna Jameson had "visible injuries.""

"Tito is currently in custody and on his way to a Huntington Beach jail in Orange County, CA."

"Tito and Jenna are not married -- but they have two children together."

"UFC fighter Tito Ortiz was placed in handcuffs and then in a jacket":

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What a dumbass.

This may be the first time anyone's used a TMZ link in this thread but here's Jenna talking to the cameras:

http://www.tmz.com/videos?autoplay=true&mediaKey=7a9733bd-fff5-41b9-b3ec-130a1bd10dc7

And here's Tito being arrested:

http://www.tmz.com/videos?autoplay=true&mediaKey=16606dbb-a38d-4ed1-a057-c1485f706155

You'll have to sit through a commercial first.

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I like Jose because when he smells blood it's on. He reminds of Wanderlei Silva in his prime. You can even see him have to stop himself from soccer kicking some of those guys in the WEC clips. If I could change any rule in American MMA, I'd bring soccer kicks back.

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For what it's worth, Tito is denying it and saying Jena relapsed on her Oxycottin addiction. I'm not a Tito fan, but I am inclined to believe him over her at this point. Tito has always seemed like a good dude. Jenna has always been bat **** crazy.

But I really came here to post this on the 2nd best welterweight in the world

http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/blog/cagewriter/post/Nick-Diaz-talks-about-the-brawl-GSP-and-triathl?urn=mma,236019

Nick Diaz talks about the brawl, GSP and triathlons

By Maggie Hendricks

Nick Diaz is in Las Vegas to race in the Xterra Triathlon, but before his run/bike/swim, he took a few minutes to talk with Cagewriter about Saturday night's brawl, future opponents and why he is a triathlete.

Cagewriter: Were you surprised by the reaction to that fight or that so many people have been blaming your team?

Nick Diaz: I don't know. I haven't been paying too much attention to it. I've been busy. I'm in Vegas and here to do a triathlon this weekend. I'm focused on that, but it sucked. Everybody seemed pretty mad. They were all pointing fingers at us. The guy jumped in the cage.

What did you think when Jason "Mayhem" Miller came into the cage?

I didn't see it until he was already in Jake's face. He pushed Jake, and then he just runs back at all of us. Everybody's like, "Oh, you jumped this guy, you fought this guy," but I didn't know we were hitting him, because I was getting hit and people were grabbing me.

If you watch the tape, this guy backs up really quick and then runs at all of us. I think maybe he got punched on a little bit, and pushed some at first, but he's the one that ran up and got in Jake's face. Gilbert pushes him back a little bit, then he pushes Gilbert, then he runs back at everyone, and everyone's fighting. It wasn't really that anyone intended on doing that.

Would you be surprised if you were reprimanded by Strikeforce or the Tennesee Athletic Commission?

As long as everybody did, because I didn't do anything different than anybody else. I felt like I got hit more than I was hitting.

Did you get any bruises or cuts from the brawl?

I got elbowed in the back of the head, and I got kicked and have a few bruises.

Did you talk to Scott Coker the night of the brawl or since?

I didn't even talk to him that night. I was just there to corner. I did my job. I was protecting myself. If you're a fighter, what martial arts is going to teach you is that if you're in a fight, you're in a fight. You can't just get hit on and stand there and get hit.

I feel bad. There were girls in there with cameras. Everybody was swinging at everybody. The best thing to do is to be fighting back and have some direction. For all I know, I get a lot of anxiety in there, and when that happens, anybody can take a shot at me, or one of my friends or one of my partners. That's exactly what was happening! If you have a side to fight for, the best thing to do, in my opinion, is to fight for that side, and not just take punches and let your friend or your family member take punches.

This guy's parents were in there, too. Jake's mom and dad were in there, and everyone was fighting. You can't really blame anyone. It didn't need to happen, and it wouldn't have happened if that guy didn't get in the ring. If anyone's in trouble, I didn't start it.

After you fight Hayato Sakurai at DREAM in May, who do you want to face in Strikeforce?

I want to fight Jason, but I'm not going to talk **** on him, but if I was, I'd call him a little *****, but I don't really talk ****. That's the only fight I want to talk about. Whoever they put in front of me, of course I'm going to fight them. I'm not afraid of anyone. Money talks. I'll fight whoever they want. I'd rather a fight at a different weight and fight someone who was important, someone who has the title.

Do you think Strikeforce has anyone to challenge you at welterweight?

No, I don't. That's why I'm going to fight in Japan. They don't have anybody for me. My last fight, they had to bring that guy from [DREAM]. People always talk about Georges St. Pierre, and they say, "Why would he come down to fight you?" And I say, "Whoa, whoa. Let's talk about GSP." He fought Dan Hardy, who got there by beating a guy my brother [uFC fighter Nate Diaz] just beat up. I was asked to fight Dan Hardy, and I turned down that fight because the guy isn't popular and he isn't important. He's not that good. He gets to the UFC, and he punches out Mike Swick. I don't have anything bad to say about Mike Swick, but I've never been impressed with Mike Swick. That's all the UFC has over there is Mike Swick.

That's all they have to offer. [Thiago Alves] is having head trauma problems, and I've never been impressed with him either. Matt Hughes is old, and Karo Parisyan is good, but he fell off. I felt bad for him.

The UFC has all new guys. These guys don't even deserve to fight me, they don't deserve to fight for a title. That's why I'm talking about, hey, we should put [GSP vs. Diaz] together.

GSP's fought everybody else. He's already fought Jon Fitch and Josh Koscheck. He doesn't want to fight those guys again. He should want to fight me. I think he should stand up and say, whether this fight is going to happen or not, I'm not afraid to fight. I'm just trying to say, people should want to see that fight because this is ridiculous. I'm trying to be a fighter and get my fights.

But before that, you're doing a triathlon. Don't you get hit when you're racing?

In the triathlon, I get real mad when that happens.

Do people know that you're a fighter when you're racing?

Not any of the competitive people [realize who I am.] Just like MMA, it's not the best fighters being promoted. I'll have one or two people know who I am, but that's it. I like it that way. I can focus on the race. But most the time, nobody knows me.

Is that anonymity one of the reasons why you do it?

I just like to race. I like the open water swim. It gives me something to build for. During [triathlon] season, every two weeks, I'll race. In that training, I get stronger and stronger, building up to the race. After a race, a lot of people will crash, but I'll keep building up and building up until I have to fight. It gives me something to not crash after the race is over. I try to keep the ball rolling until I have a fight.

I've been building up to this race, but I'm ultimately building up to a fight. Doing the races keeps me in shape. I don't have to get in shape for fights. I don't have to get ready to train with anybody. If I'm not running, I'm going to get in a swim or a bike ride. There's a lot more things I can do than sit stationary.

How many races do you do a year?

I get close to eight or nine, because I'll do four or five X terra races a year, and a few road ones in, too. The training for those races is just like training for the fights. You build up to it.

In training for fights, your team is very important to you. Is that true in training for triathlons as well?

I do have some people that I go on long bike rides with and we push each other, but nothing near as serious as in fighting. When I'm doing the triathlon, I try to be the best I can.

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You really think Nick Diaz is as good as he thinks he is? His resume doesn't show it. He's got a lot of losses to guys that aren't GSP. Sherk, Riggs, Sanchez for example.

dont forget he also lost to KJ Noon (it might have been stopped due to cuts, but Noons was beating the hell out of him before it was stopped)

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Sebowski - Not to pepper this thread with Tito drama, but I agree with you. A mentally unstable porn star hooked on the latest Hollywood fad drug??? Nooooooo. His version of the event sounds much more convincing to me...

As for the Diaz question, he would be beaten handily by GSP IMO... He's a good fighter, but no way he beats GSP in a matchup.

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You really think Nick Diaz is as good as he thinks he is? His resume doesn't show it. He's got a lot of losses to guys that aren't GSP. Sherk, Riggs, Sanchez for example.

Those three losses were over 4 years ago, and were questionable decisions. Diaz is 100 times the fighter now anyway. Besides, if you look a little closer at this sherdog record you'll see he really only has one loss

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I'm not saying Diaz would necessarily beat GSP. Just saying he is #2 right now, and would give GSP the best fight.

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Those three losses were over 4 years ago, and were questionable decisions. Diaz is 100 times the fighter now anyway. Besides, if you look a little closer at this sherdog record you'll see he really only has one loss

I'm not saying Diaz would necessarily beat GSP. Just saying he is #2 right now, and would give GSP the best fight.

Diaz is one of my top 2 or 3 favorite fighters. He's definitely a different fighter than he was 3-4 years ago and I'd love to see him fight GSP, but Diaz's takedown defense was a problem in his UFC days and unless he's improved that exponentially, we all know how that fight would go.

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http://www.heavy.com/mma/mma-news/2010/04/early-ppv-estimates-indicate-success-for-aldo-vs-faber/

Last Saturday’s “Aldo vs. Faber” event was surrounded by many questions, with the most important being this: how would the event fare on pay per view? Even though viewers never once saw the World Extreme Cagefighting logo, this was, for all intents and purposes, the first WEC show on pay per view. How would viewers respond to the addition of traditional UFC elements like Dana White, Joe Rogan, Mike Goldberg and Bruce Buffer?

According to sources in the cable industry, early estimates indicate that the show did between 150,000 and 200,000 buys on pay per view, a number that has to be considered a resounding success internally. Bryan Alvarez has the same report in today’s Figure Four Weekly (subscription only).

The success of the card makes it likely that we’ll see more WEC pay per view events in the future, even if they aren’t specifically WEC-branded.

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