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http://www.football.com/cgi-bin/articycler/localize.cgi?CID=71&at=cfl2.shtml&sfb=yes&articleTitle=cfl+team+stats

He punted 118 times in 18 games for 5,967 yards and a 50.6 yard gross average. Thats an average of 6.5 punts per game. :D

One of the things everyone likes about Tupa is the fact that he's able to pin people - so what's Ryan's *net* punt average?

Also, the other absolute necessity in our punter (see: Tupa's temporary replacement, Frost) is that he is able to hold for FGs. So, does Ryan hold?

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His net average was 42.3, which is good.

But one thing to remember, in the CFL, if you boot it through the endzone or the other team downs it in the endzone, you get a single point. So there is no issue of trying to pin the team at 5 yard line. He would probably have trouble with that aspect of the game to begin with.

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His net average was 42.3, which is good.

But one thing to remember, in the CFL, if you boot it through the endzone or the other team downs it in the endzone, you get a single point. So there is no issue of trying to pin the team at 5 yard line. He would probably have trouble with that aspect of the game to begin with.

Very, very interesting point which is why Canadian punters have not really made it before in the NFL. This is a very important aspect for punters. If they can't do that, then I would not want them on our team.

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Listen up Vinnie:

Tom Tupa is 40 years old now and should be collecting Social Security. Its time we signed a young punter and here is the man. Jon Ryan is a free agent who plays for Winnepeg in the CFL and is only 23, but still broke a 22 year-old Canadian punting record this year, with a 50.6 gross average.

Why you asking Vinnie, Gibbs is the person to talk to and do you honestly expect him to bring a young punter on the team :laugh: :laugh:

Gibbs is a fan for veterans at certain positions and ST is one of them. I would expect us to have a new veteran punter next year thats it. We saw how Andy Groom did :silly:

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With a 50.6 yard punting average, why wouldn't a team bring him down and have a

look? You will never see a CFL punter being paid $235,000 a year, so it wouldn't

be hard to get him to a camp. And if he doesn't make it, he can always go back

to the CFL, because he can always have a 20 year career there, as teams don't

usually want to use kicking positions on import players.

In case you are wondering, CFL teams must have (I believe) 17 Canadians on the roster, also known as non-imports.

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His net average was 42.3, which is good.

But one thing to remember, in the CFL, if you boot it through the endzone or the other team downs it in the endzone, you get a single point. So there is no issue of trying to pin the team at 5 yard line. He would probably have trouble with that aspect of the game to begin with.

That's a great point.

Also, I'll say it again- pretty sure it's a priority we get a punter that can hold.

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:cry: :cry: Vinnie's in big trouble now with Miss Cleo. :paranoid:

http://www.jsonline.com/packer/news/feb06/389635.asp

Packers tab punter from Canada

He brings strong leg from Winnipeg

By TOM SILVERSTEIN

tsilverstein@journalsentinel.com

Feb. 3, 2006

Detroit - The Green Bay Packers have taken a significant step in upgrading their suspect punting game, signing strong-legged prospect Jon Ryan, a record-setting punter from the Canadian Football League.

Ryan, who led the CFL in punting with a record 50.6-yard gross average, drew interest from the Packers, Cincinnati Bengals and New York Giants and ultimately chose the Packers over the Giants. In a workout with the Packers on Jan. 16, he showed the leg strength the Packers had seen on tape kicking the National Football League's slick "K" balls.

"He had an outstanding season," Packers general manager Ted Thompson said Thursday. "The ball really comes off his foot. He's used to kicking in all kinds of weather. During the workout he performed well."

According to a source close to Ryan, the Giants offered him a signing bonus of $40,000, but Ryan accepted $35,000 from the Packers. That's a considerable amount of money for a "street" free agent, but not so much when you consider the Packers shelled out a $583,250 signing bonus to third-round pick B.J. Sander in 2004.

The 5-foot-11, 205-pound Ryan joins Sander, recently signed free agent Ryan Dutton and Ryan Flinn as the punters the Packers will evaluate before training camp. The signing of Ryan allows Thompson to focus on other areas rather than have to use a valuable draft choice on a punter this off-season.

Thompson said Sander was still in the mix for the starting punting job, but it's clear the Packers are looking for an alternative. Last year, Sander ranked 30th in the NFL in gross average with a 39.2-yard mark and 31st in net average with a 33.9 mark. Worse yet, his averages dropped late in the season as the weather got worse.

Ryan, 24, was born in Regina, Saskatchewan, and played wide receiver and punter at the University of Regina. The Winnipeg Blue Bombers drafted him in the third round and used him exclusively as a punter and he quickly became one of the top prospects in the CFL.

"In our minds he was going," Winnipeg general manager Brendan Taman said. "It was a matter of time. He's got a heck of a leg. His potential is quite significant."

Unlike Sander, Ryan has a powerful leg and hang time isn't necessarily his strength. Distance is. He had a long punt of 82 yards this season and 92 yards the year before. This season, the Blue Bombers were 5-13 and Ryan had to punt often, yet he was able to keep his averages up, even in Winnipeg's extremely windy weather.

"He's a very good athlete," Saskatchewan Rough Riders special teams coach Alex Smith said. "Between his first and second season he must have hit the weight room big time - you could see it in his body and legs - because his punting took a jump. His leg strength is phenomenal."

Smith said he followed Ryan during his years as a high school and college player and said he was an outstanding receiver. He said his athletic ability was evident in his ability to handle bad snaps and run fakes out of punt formation.

Smith said it was his understanding that Ryan had spent a lot of time working out in Phoenix and attending various kicking camps in the United States to improve his skills. He said Ryan was a hard worker and humble person who wouldn't be difficult to coach.

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:cry: :cry: Vinnie's in big trouble now with Miss Cleo. :paranoid:

http://www.jsonline.com/packer/news/feb06/389635.asp

Packers tab punter from Canada

He brings strong leg from Winnipeg

By TOM SILVERSTEIN

tsilverstein@journalsentinel.com

Feb. 3, 2006

Detroit - The Green Bay Packers have taken a significant step in upgrading their suspect punting game, signing strong-legged prospect Jon Ryan, a record-setting punter from the Canadian Football League.

Ryan, who led the CFL in punting with a record 50.6-yard gross average, drew interest from the Packers, Cincinnati Bengals and New York Giants and ultimately chose the Packers over the Giants. In a workout with the Packers on Jan. 16, he showed the leg strength the Packers had seen on tape kicking the National Football League's slick "K" balls.

"He had an outstanding season," Packers general manager Ted Thompson said Thursday. "The ball really comes off his foot. He's used to kicking in all kinds of weather. During the workout he performed well."

According to a source close to Ryan, the Giants offered him a signing bonus of $40,000, but Ryan accepted $35,000 from the Packers. That's a considerable amount of money for a "street" free agent, but not so much when you consider the Packers shelled out a $583,250 signing bonus to third-round pick B.J. Sander in 2004..

Well, it does look like a good one got away. I'd love to ask Joe, Vinny, or Danny (Smith) in one of our Redskins chats if they even considered him. I'm really curious about what's going to happen in our kicking game with both Hall & Frost. It's Clash time ;) .

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So how does he do with putting backspin on the ball? What about Puting it inside the 10 or 20?

Not to downplay what you are saying, because it is deffinitely an important thing for a punter to know how to do, but, with our D, who cares? I would rather our opponents start at the 20 every time than where they were starting against us this past year.

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Stick with Tupa, he's good and 40 ain't that old for those kickers & punters. I've seen Tupa nail balls inside the 5 yard line multi-times in the same game. Can you imagine our defense playing with THAT? Tupa all the way.

Thank You.

Hall is the one we need to be thinking about.

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