MisterPinstripe Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 What's the championship formula for football?Is it a team coached my a disciplinarian? Or a player's coach? Is it an offensive-minded team or a defensive-minded team? Should you stop the run or focus on shutting down the pass? Should you run the ball or should you win by passing the ball? There are pocket passers that have games... and there are scramblers that have won games. Do you win with a bruising running attack? Or play-action pass? Does every quarterback have the same windup? The same release point? No. Of course not. Favre was criticized for having a horrible throwing motion.... all the way to the Hall of Fame. Some coaches teach runningbacks to hold the ball with their index finger on the point of the ball. Others teach it by putting the point between the index and third fingers. There's no hard and fast rules to football... the bottom line is... whatever works. Well put. There is not just one way to do things. Heck, when Pistol Pete Maravich (sp?) first started playing, he was criticized up one side and down the other. Not drawing a connection between the two. Just pointing out that what may seem ridiculous and not part of how the game should be played at the time does not mean that it doesn’t work just as well if not better. *edit* Just in case for those of you who do not know, Pistol Pete played basketball. Made it the game it is today. *edit* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hailtotheredskins89826 Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 if hes scores who cares Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peregrine Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Ok... I think Desertfox gets my idiot of the week award. I know its popular for people to harp on basics(we all know coaches tell you to put the ball in the outside hand), but the fact is, talent and skill trump over technique at times. Some QBs also had abnormal throwing motions yet were awesome. So criticizing portis after all he has done is one thing, its another when he has barely fumbled the ball in his career. Its yet another to call great running backs, including the NFL record holder, overrated. Seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 That's unreal. The man just broke the single season franchise rushing record, and people are pissed because he held the ball in the wrong hand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiger187126 Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Look I love Portis...he's awsome but the guy is a pro running back and he doesn't put the football in the proper hand when he is running. The other day on his touchdown run he was running left but carrying the ball with his right arm, his inside arm...! NO! NO! NO! put that ball in the outside arm..keep it away from the defense...that is just basics....jeez.. GO Skins! if it's a touchdown run i don't care what arm it's in....when it's a run ending in a fumble (twice this year) then we can talk arms i think if he's more prone to fumble with his left arm, regardless of sideline he's running to, then he should carry in his right he makes good money and is better than high school football players, so i say he can fool with mechanics a little bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyburd Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Look at the greatest run in Redskin history, Riggo has the ball in his left hand. Good point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwitt Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 The lesson learned from this thread is that if you don't agree with desertfox then you are a moron and he will talk down to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skins'89 Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 He gets the job done, does he not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Kenzo Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 Portis just came off a great season where he rushed for 1500+ yards and you want to complain about how he carries the football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticksboi05 Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 Look at the greatest run in Redskin history, Riggo has the ball in his left hand. Good point Yeah stop talking. He led us into the playoffs. He rarely fumbles. He gets the job done. You don;t play so you have no right to criticize about half of our offense. *This is NOT aimed at the person I'm quoting. It's to ther person who started this stupid thread.* Lol. Riggo had it in the left arm. Shook! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creamsodas Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 Wow I just wasted 30 minutes reading 9 pages of people bashing desertfox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 You know, I have had a chance to do a little coaching in my time and I can say this: "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" If I had a kid who had some wild way of doing a particular move in football that seemed to go against the norm, I would ask myself, is he failing at what he is doing? If the answer is no, then I would shut-up. Let him do what he is doing and as long as he is successful, take credit for putting him in a position to succeed. Catch a coach trying to change him? Tell him to stop trying to reinvent the wheel. If its rolling, leave it alone. I have a ton more pithy little sayings to go along for this but the bottom line is: Micro-managing sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dance04 Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 wow, how the HELL can u say corey dillon is overated desertfox???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GibbSkins11 Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 Look I love Portis...he's awsome but the guy is a pro running back and he doesn't put the football in the proper hand when he is running. The other day on his touchdown run he was running left but carrying the ball with his right arm, his inside arm...! NO! NO! NO! put that ball in the outside arm..keep it away from the defense...that is just basics....jeez.. GO Skins! glossary time GibbSkins11 style..... frange - not right , off , and just well frange buddy that stuff u just wasted my eyesight with is well frange:doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scribble Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 I dont care how he carries it if he keeps putting up the big yards and not fumbling. If it was a problem, then yeah it would be a good point you brought up but its not really a problem is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiplohmillers#1 Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 Have you thought about a position as Runningbacks coach? Perhaps you have more to offer then Ernest Byner. I mean after all you probibly have a multitude of years of experience dealing with NFL Runningbacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue_n_silver Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 Desert, you are seriously confused. Emmitt did move the ball to the correct hand when he could. As far as being overrated, when did you start watching football? Let me guess, since the skins became an over .500 club? I for one dont hear a lot of people suggest that Emmitt was THE best that ever ran, rather he is one of the best all time, I would agree with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiefPowhatan17 Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 Sometimes changing hands with the ball is not a priority when a back is using his field vision to look for the hole. My complaint is about the fact that Portis doesn't always look to see where no one is. So many times he ran in the back of people and pushed when all he had to do was look and bounce outside and he would've had a 1700 yard season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskinsfan17 Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 how many times did portis fumble this year? like twice?? and oh wait...that was just one bad game he played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doodie987 Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 yeah dude. he's the man and it has clearly worked for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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