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      ES Coverage: Giants vs Redskins 
       
      12/9/18
       
      DEFEAT!!!
       
      Giants 40 - Redskins 16
       
      Greetings friends, JimmiJo here, and I am joined by my shivering partner, Spaceman Spiff. Together we will bring you this all important NFC East divisional matchup between the Washington Redskins and New York Giants.
       
      When I was last with you the Redskins had command of the division and there was optimism to spare. Since, devastating injuries to quarterbacks, linemen, and cornerbacks has left this team losers in 4-of-5 contests.
       
      But there is still everything to play for, and if they can manage a victory today and the Eagles to the same Washington will once again have a share of the lead.
       
      I can dream can't I?
       
      On paper, the future looks grim. A continued collapse will start the questions about the future of personnel and perhaps leadership. Yes, we can certainly point to injuries as the primary reason the team is struggling. But the record earlier in the year was masking some issues with the squad. No real arial threat. An inconsistent running game. And a defense that has been anything but consistent.
       
      But these are questions for another time. Today, it is just two teams looking for a win.
       
      See you at the half.
       
      Follow along on Twitter @Skinscast 
       
      Inactives
       
      The Redskins declared the following players as inactive:
      o   No. 12 QB Colt McCoy
      o   No. 32 RB Samaje Perine
      o   No. 46 RB Kapri Bibbs
      o   No. 52 LB Ryan Anderson
      o   No. 63 C Demetrius Rhaney
      o   No. 66 G Tony Bergstrom
      o   No. 99 DL Caleb Brantley
       
      JimmiJo
       
      I was happy to see players like Josh Johnson and Byron Marshall in the game. The marquee guys did not earn the right to play following the disastrous first half. It was historically bad.
       
      Never before had the Washington Redskins trailed by as much as the 34-0 deficit they entertained today at the half.
       
      I remarked to one of the writers that in 13-seasons I had never seen this team so outplayed as today. The offense led by Mark Sanchez was throw-up in mouth bad. At no point did you feel like they would or could score.
       
      I tweeted before the game that it is time for Daniel Snyder to replaced head coach Jay Gruden. Yes injuries are the headline. But the offense was poor before the injuries.
       
      No aerial threat and an inconsistent rushing. They only seemed to score 20-points per game.
       
      What they did do well was hold on to the ball. And the defense was a takeover machine the first half of the year.
      But turnovers tend to even out.
       
      So I was more than glad to see those ‘backups’ play. All they did was show they should have been playing in the first half.
       
      Especially Johnson. Take a look at your Redskins’ starter the rest of the way. From his first snap the offense looked different. There was energy. There was life.
       
      And there was threat.
       
      Johnson played with more command, accuracy and imagination than Mark Sanchez. He looked much more the accomplished quarterback.
       
      A word on Josh Doctson. You are an idiot. Without the stupid penalty you are not letting the safety out-position you to make the pick with 5-minutes left.
       
      Following this game, staring at the standings and considering possible scenarios for getting in the playoffs is fools’ gold. It is all about assessing who it worth keeping for next year.
       
      I don’t believe head coach Jay Gruden is going to make the list. Nor should he. He has had nore than enough time to do something here. He had Kirk Cousins’ starting over 3-full seasons.
       
      He had his chance.
       
      I tweeted before the game team owner Daniel Snyder should let Gruden go and bring in Mike McCarthy. Washington Post writer (and friend) Rick Snider made a great counterpoint to that idea:
       
      “Why would McCarthy want to come here? He has better options,” he said.
       
      That sure feels like the truth. And if so, it may explain why Gruden is fast becoming one of the most tenured coaches in the league.
       
      This was my last game for this season. I would like to thank Extremeskins and the team for the opportunity this year. I will see you guys next year.
       
      Let me go on the record now and say I do not think Jay Gruden's position here is secure. Not with the likes of Mike McCarthy available.

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An Annoying habit of Portis....

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Look I love Portis...he's awsome but the guy is a pro running back and he doesn't put the football in the proper hand when he is running. The other day on his touchdown run he was running left but carrying the ball with his right arm, his inside arm...! NO! NO! NO! put that ball in the outside arm..keep it away from the defense...that is just basics....jeez..

GO Skins!

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yeah, but emmitt smith never carried the ball in his right hand, and corey dillon carries it in the left every time as well.

also, riggo (and other older backs ie walter payton) used to carry the ball in the palm of their hand sometimes.

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geez got anything else to complain about.

He hasn't fumbled except twice (in only one game) all this year... it works for him. relax

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yeah, but emmitt smith never carried the ball in his right hand, and corey dillon carries it in the left every time as well.

also, riggo (and other older backs ie walter payton) used to carry the ball in the palm of their hand sometimes.

Corry dillon = overrated

Emmit Smith = Massively overrated

WALTER PAYTON = The greatest running back of all time so I'll only reply to this example. Yes Payton used to carry the ball in his palm however, Payton only did that in the open field and he only did that with the correct arm and further more whenever anyone came near him he would either tuck it away or he was out of bounds so it didn't matter

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Corry dillon = overrated

Emmit Smith = Massively overrated

WALTER PAYTON = The greatest running back of all time so I'll only reply to this example. Yes Payton used to carry the ball in his palm however, Payton only did that in the open field and he only did that with the correct arm and further more whenever anyone came near him he would either tuck it away or he was out of bounds so it didn't matter

i'm really not sure how you can call emmitt smith massively overrated, even under homerish circumstances.

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i'm really not sure how you can call emmitt smith massively overrated, even under homerish circumstances.

Well let me explain it to you....

People, many people call Emmit Smith the best running back of all time...since I can think of at least three off the top of my head who were better (Walter Payton, Barry Sanders, Jim Brown) I would call that massivally overrated...I never said he wasn't good, in fact he is one of the better backs to play this game. But if you think you can compare ES to WP in any area but total career yardage....then you sir are a MORON.

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Corry dillon = overrated

Emmit Smith = Massively overrated

WALTER PAYTON = The greatest running back of all time so I'll only reply to this example. Yes Payton used to carry the ball in his palm however, Payton only did that in the open field and he only did that with the correct arm and further more whenever anyone came near him he would either tuck it away or he was out of bounds so it didn't matter

yeah, but emmitt didnt fumble. In 18,355 carries, he only fumbled 38 times (he only lost 22 of them). whether or not he's overrated is irrelevent, because he always carried the ball in one hand and he fumbled the ball less than 1% of the time.

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yeah, but emmitt didnt fumble. In 18,355 carries, he only fumbled 38 times (he only lost 22 of them). whether or not he's overrated is irrelevent, because he always carried the ball in one hand and he fumbled the ball less than 1% of the time.

What percentage has Portis fumbled ? until he carries the football 18,000 times with a less than 1% fumble rate.....I'd tell him to put the football in the right arm.

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What percentage has Portis fumbled ? until he carries the football 18,000 times with a less than 1% fumble rate.....I'd tell him to put the football in the right arm.

i just checked the stats and in 5,818 carries clinton portis has lost 10 of 16 fumbles which is ALSO less than 1% of the time.

:eaglesuck

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yeah, but emmitt didnt fumble. In 18,355 carries, he only fumbled 38 times (he only lost 22 of them). whether or not he's overrated is irrelevent, because he always carried the ball in one hand and he fumbled the ball less than 1% of the time.

He had 18,355 Carries? :yikes:

What was his average yards/carry ? according to you even if he had a 2y/carry average he would have well over 35,000 yards in his career :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

If that were the case I'd take back my analysis of him as massivally overrated even if he still was a poor pass blocker, didn't have very good hands and played with one of the best o lines in football history.

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i just checked the stats and in 5,818 carries clinton portis has lost 10 of 16 fumbles which is ALSO less than 1% of the time.

:eaglesuck

There is no way portis has carried the ball 5,818 times.....are we counting his peewee football league team too....and his highschool team, and college? think people....! think!... what is Portis's average per carry? if it's anything higher than 2 than that means Portis must have at leaste 11,000 yards in 4 years of football....:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::doh::doh::doh::doh::doh:

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hahaha, crap, fox, i mixed up my numbers (i typed in yards instead of carries). that was bad. But they are both under 1% in terms of fumbles

Portis: 1,231 carries and 10 lost fumbles is .8% fumbles

Smith: 4,409 carries and 22 lost fumbles is .4% fumbles

:eaglesuck

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hahaha, crap, fox, i mixed up my numbers (i typed in yards instead of carries). that was bad. But they are both under 1% in terms of fumbles

Portis: 1,231 carries and 10 lost fumbles is .8% fumbles

Smith: 4,409 carries and 22 lost fumbles is .4% fumbles

:eaglesuck

O.K. fair enough....at least you can admit u were wrong, unlike some DALLAS Trolls....or some Giants Trolls both of whom don't even have the balls to show back up here and admit they are ass licking hind-tit-suckin crybabies.:):):):)

back to my point ....When Portis has carried the ball 4,000 times and still is under 1% I'll say o.k. forget the fundementals...do it your way....it's working.....Until that time Put the Ball in the correct arm!

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portis still fumbles less than 1 percent of the time. so i wasn't wrong. I was actually correct. And other guys (Smith and Dillon) who always carried the ball in one hand also have fumbled less than 1 percent of the time, so i think Portis should keep on doing what he's doing. he's only lost two fumbles this year, and they were both in the Oakland game.

Only one player in NFL history has ever carried the ball 4000 or more times, and it's only "ok" if portis keeps this up after 4000 carries!? Please.

Portis holds on to the ball pretty damn well. Keep it up, Clinton

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i'm really not sure how you can call emmitt smith massively overrated, even under homerish circumstances.

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Look I love Portis...he's awsome but the guy is a pro running back and he doesn't put the football in the proper hand when he is running. The other day on his touchdown run he was running left but carrying the ball with his right arm, his inside arm...! NO! NO! NO! put that ball in the outside arm..keep it away from the defense...that is just basics....jeez..

GO Skins!

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

We are on the verge of making the playoffs. He has been a very big part in getting us there.

He can carry the ball between his teeth if he wants!!

:laugh:

Blondie

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Look I love Portis...he's awsome but the guy is a pro running back and he doesn't put the football in the proper hand when he is running. The other day on his touchdown run he was running left but carrying the ball with his right arm, his inside arm...! NO! NO! NO! put that ball in the outside arm..keep it away from the defense...that is just basics....jeez..

GO Skins!

Portis is one of the more surehanded backs in the league. There have been runs when I've thought, switch hands Clinton, but that wasn't one of them. He knew he had to run fast to outrun the defenders, and switching hands might have slowed him down.

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I guess some of you just don't understand how to play football...

It is a basic fundamental. when a running back first is handed the football he recieves it with both arms. the interrior arm (the one on the side of the Quaterback) goes up to supply the QB a pocket in which to put the football, while the exterior arm (the one on the opposite side of the QB) is down. in the initial running back pocket the points of the ball (the most vunerable parts ) are protected by both the hands and the elbows on each side until in the open field when the back can (for speed purposes) shift the ball to one arm, the outside arm....the arm closest to the sidelines to protect the ball from the inside out tackling angles of the defense!

It amazes me how many of you want to argue with one of the basics of the game. there are almost no situations where this proper handling of the football should not be done.

Maybe its because so many of you are blinded by your love for this team that you just can't hear anything that criticizes any aspect of this team. you think that you are defending my Redskins. But by your soft bigtory of low expectations you are really doing my skins a disservice.

I want Clinton Portis to put the ball in the proper arm because I believe he can be one of the best to ever play this game! I want to see him do this properly because I believe in the fundamentals and I think that in order to be one of the best you have to do all the little things correctly. Yes to some of you this may seem like a little thing but I have high expectations for players with high skills like Portis. oh and by the way YOU SHOULD TOO!

For those of you who don't see this logic and want to throw stats out there to try to disprove the simple basics of the game of football. I guess the grass will always be blue and the sky will always be green... A great man once said, "there are lies...there are damn lies...and then there are statistics."

For those of you who believe that the grass is green...I welcome your points about this post, for there are many to make. and look foward to our conversations. Morons need not apply. ;)

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I guess some of you just don't understand how to play football...

It is a basic fundamental. when a running back first is handed the football he recieves it with both arms. the interrior arm (the one on the side of the Quaterback) goes up to supply the QB a pocket in which to put the football, while the exterior arm (the one on the opposite side of the QB) is down. in the initial running back pocket the points of the ball (the most vunerable parts ) are protected by both the hands and the elbows on each side until in the open field when the back can (for speed purposes) shift the ball to one arm, the outside arm....the arm closest to the sidelines to protect the ball from the inside out tackling angles of the defense!

It amazes me how many of you want to argue with one of the basics of the game. there are almost no situations where this proper handling of the football should not be done.

Maybe its because so many of you are blinded by your love for this team that you just can't hear anything that criticizes any aspect of this team. you think that you are defending my Redskins. But by your soft bigtory of low expectations you are really doing my skins a disservice.

I want Clinton Portis to put the ball in the proper arm because I believe he can be one of the best to ever play this game! I want to see him do this properly because I believe in the fundamentals and I think that in order to be one of the best you have to do all the little things correctly. Yes to some of you this may seem like a little thing but I have high expectations for players with high skills like Portis. oh and by the way YOU SHOULD TOO!

For those of you who don't see this logic and want to throw stats out there to try to disprove the simple basics of the game of football. I guess the grass will always be blue and the sky will always be green... A great man once said, "there are lies...there are damn lies...and then there are statistics."

For those of you who believe that the grass is green...I welcome your points about this post, for there are many to make. and look foward to our conversations. Morons need not apply. ;)

I think most people KNOW how to play football. You are not special in that category. I am well aware a player keeps the ball in the hand away from the defender.

MY point was if Joe Gibbs is not sitting CP's butt on the bench for the way he carries the ball, then who are you or who am I or who are we to tell him how to do it.

Blondie

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