jbooma Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 They are saying it would be a shocker if Bush can not get Kilgore the state. Hello, Warner won the last election has a huge approval rating and is backing Kaine. Personally I hate both of the guy running and would love to have Warner come back, but we are backwards and only allow one term for the governor :doh: I think the media is blowing this way out of porportion, plus Kilgore has been way off on his adds and made it too personal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsHokieFan Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 Watch- If Kilgore wins there will be barely a peep If he loses all hell will break loose and it'll be a refferndum about Bush This happened in VA before when Randy Forbes won a special election congressional seat by Va Beach a few years ago- had he lost it would have been a black eye for the administration But since he won, I bet you have no idea what the hell I am talking about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooma Posted November 9, 2005 Author Share Posted November 9, 2005 Watch- If Kilgore wins there will be barely a peepIf he loses all hell will break loose and it'll be a refferndum about Bush This happened in VA before when Randy Forbes won a special election congressional seat by Va Beach a few years ago- had he lost it would have been a black eye for the administration But since he won, I bet you have no idea what the hell I am talking about I agree. Plus what many outside of VA do not know that the northern part which is mostly democratic is the largest part, and has the most influence. Yes in the south they are conservative, but do now have the numbers like the north. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissU28 Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 George Bush called my house yesterday to say he was backing Kilgore So nice to hear his voice on my answering machine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsHokieFan Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 George Bush called my house yesterday to say he was backing Kilgore So nice to hear his voice on my answering machine Some idiot called my office line this morning at 7 am to tell me to vote My office also happens to be my bedroom I was pissed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissU28 Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 I agree.Plus what many outside of VA do not know that the northern part which is mostly democratic is the largest part, and has the most influence. Yes in the south they are conservative, but do now have the numbers like the north. you think northern virginia is mostly democratic???? Where do you live??? NOVA is mostly republican.... maybe in places like Woodbridge and Dumfries (if you consider those towns northern va) it's democratic, but fairfax county? I strongly disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooma Posted November 9, 2005 Author Share Posted November 9, 2005 you think northern virginia is mostly democratic???? Where do you live??? NOVA is mostly republican.... maybe in places like Woodbridge and Dumfries (if you consider those towns northern va) it's democratic, but fairfax county? I strongly disagree. then how did Warner win last time. Fairfax, Arlington, Alexandria, Falls Church, Vienna, etc... are mainly demorcratic now the further south you go yes it is conservative but the main part of northern va is turning democratic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooma Posted November 9, 2005 Author Share Posted November 9, 2005 kilgore is leading right now i pray if he wins he is not a Gilmore all over again, then we are going back downhill :doh: :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aCalBearSkin Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 George Bush called my house yesterday to say he was backing Kilgore So nice to hear his voice on my answering machine Wow. That is a disturbing thought...If I heard that chump on my answering machine I'd probably drop-kick it out my window. :point2sky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissU28 Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 then how did Warner win last time. Fairfax, Arlington, Alexandria, Falls Church, Vienna, etc... are mainly demorcraticnow the further south you go yes it is conservative but the main part of northern va is turning democratic I still disagree. Maybe Arlington...because it's so close to DC...maybe Alexandria.... but you can't account that to them being democratic. Maybe they just didn't like the republican candidate. Maybe they thought Warner was attractive, or they liked his ideas. Using that logic we'd say that most of America is Republican since Bush won. Is that true? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooma Posted November 9, 2005 Author Share Posted November 9, 2005 I still disagree. Maybe Arlington...because it's so close to DC...maybe Alexandria.... but you can't account that to them being democratic. Maybe they just didn't like the republican candidate. Maybe they thought Warner was attractive, or they liked his ideas. Using that logic we'd say that most of America is Republican since Bush won. Is that true? all you have to do is look out the laws they pass in those areas, and you can tell i used to work with FFX Government it is pretty democratic there has been a large shift i would say in the last 15 years in this area Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooma Posted November 9, 2005 Author Share Posted November 9, 2005 Kaine is leading with 25% in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazyhorse1 Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 Warner won last time because Republican Gilmore bankrupted the state before him. It was perceived that Gilmore lost it rather than Warner winning. If Kaine wins, it means that a red state has possibly moved into the blue column; it's perceived that Kaine's only reason for winning is that he is not a Republican. Also, Kilgore is a crony of the Bush family, particular of Malcolm Bush, whom he kept out of prison, thereby winning George's favor. Not voting for Kilgore is tantamount to an anti-Bush vote, or so it is perceived. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Punani2 Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 VA a blue state? LMAO!!! Let's get real here ok. VA is one of the most conservative states in the US. Warner would be considered a Rep in most other states. If Kaine wins he will be expected to follow Warner's example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooma Posted November 9, 2005 Author Share Posted November 9, 2005 VA a blue state? LMAO!!! Let's get real here ok.VA is one of the most conservative states in the US. Warner would be considered a Rep in most other states. If Kaine wins he will be expected to follow Warner's example. good point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooma Posted November 9, 2005 Author Share Posted November 9, 2005 Warner won last time because Republican Gilmore bankrupted the state before him. It was perceived that Gilmore lost it rather than Warner winning.If Kaine wins, it means that a red state has possibly moved into the blue column; it's perceived that Kaine's only reason for winning is that he is not a Republican. Also, Kilgore is a crony of the Bush family, particular of Malcolm Bush, whom he kept out of prison, thereby winning George's favor. Not voting for Kilgore is tantamount to an anti-Bush vote, or so it is perceived. funny because Warner didn't run against Gilmore or did you know that Wilder was democratic as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redskins Diehard Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 Some idiot called my office line this morning at 7 am to tell me to voteMy office also happens to be my bedroom I was pissed Hmmm, I wonder what this guy does for a living? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redskins Diehard Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 you think northern virginia is mostly democratic???? Where do you live??? NOVA is mostly republican.... maybe in places like Woodbridge and Dumfries (if you consider those towns northern va) it's democratic, but fairfax county? I strongly disagree. Actually Kaine won Fairfax by almost 50,000 votes...Prince William by 80. I would consider both part of NOVA. In fact, since the commuting range stretches all the way to Fredericksburg, I would throw Stafford into the equation as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuposse87 Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 I know Lorton is pretty democratic. Although we got that moron Albo for delegate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerPacker Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 i wouldn't count this election for anything, as nobody really likes either candidate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DjTj Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 i wouldn't count this election for anything, as nobody really likes either candidate. It means that Warner is popular enough to help someone who you claim isn't very well-liked to get a majority of the vote. This might not mean a lot for Bush or the Republican Party nationally, but it definitely speaks volumes for the job that Warner has done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerPacker Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 It means that Warner is popular enough to help someone who you claim isn't very well-liked to get a majority of the vote.This might not mean a lot for Bush or the Republican Party nationally, but it definitely speaks volumes for the job that Warner has done. i'm not doubting warner's effect, i'm just doubting all the analysis that goes into this, such as the color of northern VA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DjTj Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 i'm not doubting warner's effect, i'm just doubting all the analysis that goes into this, such as the color of northern VA. I was just trying to point out one thing that we could count this election for. You're probably right that we can't say anything about definitive about Virginia in the next Presidential election, but this definitely makes Warner's future look bright, be it in Virginia or on a national level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimboDaMan Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 i wouldn't count this election for anything, as nobody really likes either candidate. That's exactly when you can read something into it, when the vote is really about other things. Like maybe Warner being a big help to the Democrat, and Bush not providing any boost to the Republican. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chomerics Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 VA a blue state? LMAO!!! Let's get real here ok.VA is one of the most conservative states in the US. Time to move to a new state if you think that Johnny. NOVA has become an educated society with a LOT of northerners moving to that area. We're infultrating your society, and I LOVE IT HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA :jk: All kidding aside though, Virginia is not one of the "most conservative states", not by a long shot. They lean right, mainly because of the Pentagon, Andrews and the military in the area, but it is starting to change. This country is completely changing before our eyes, and we are witnessing the Bush democrats just like the Reagan republicans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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