stupidsuck Posted June 28, 2005 Share Posted June 28, 2005 Originally posted by jrfriedm Getting his "a$$" sued is a lot better than getting his "a$$" arrested. anyone think he'll be sued for 6.5 million? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wskin44 Posted June 28, 2005 Share Posted June 28, 2005 Originally posted by flexxskins You are probably right. I believe Julian Peterson of the 49er's co-hosted the party. I wonder if the 49rs sent along a film crew? :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wskin44 Posted June 28, 2005 Share Posted June 28, 2005 Originally posted by Art Really? I can think of at least a dozen on memory that have. Depends on the crowd, to be sure. But, this is not terribly abnormal. Somehow when I read Fansince62's comment I knew that we would hear from Art on the subject. Art hasn't lived the same life that some others have. Not a judgement, just an observation. I've had shots fired into a house that I was living in, while I was there. The bullets passed through several walls. So I'm not making judgements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCRoughrider Posted June 28, 2005 Share Posted June 28, 2005 Don't all parties, especially ones for charity, end in shootings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wskin44 Posted June 28, 2005 Share Posted June 28, 2005 The Charity probably carries insurance to cover its events. The place that they rented also probably carries insurance for events. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
autographcollector Posted June 28, 2005 Share Posted June 28, 2005 Originally posted by wskin44 The Charity probably carries insurance to cover its events. The place that they rented also probably carries insurance for events. Its a house...not like the marriott or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woofer Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 Originally posted by Romberjo Huh? I don't know what "in the line of fire to say" means, but assuming you mean that LaVar might face a non-frivolous suit if people other than the security guard were in the line of fire, please tell us what the cause of action (legal theory) would be. If anyone's negligence contributed to the shooting, it would presumably be that of the security company LaVar hired -- and they would be independent contractors, so there would be no respondeat superior liability so LaVar wouldn't be liable for their conduct, even if it was negligent. (I suppose it's conceivable that LaVar was or should have been aware that someone at the party was drinking too much and waving a gun around (muttering about ATV's) and that LaVar did or should have foreseen that something like the shooting might happen if he did not cut off the alcohol, but he nonetheless allowed the guy to continue drinking, and that drinking was a proximate cause of the shooting. But that seems extraordinarily unlikely.) Of course we don't fully know what happened, but given the statement from the police and from LaVar it seems that he will face no sanctions, criminal, civil, or Redskinal. Someone else posted that Lavar was in the process of shutting the party down, so maybe he didknow that things were getting out of hand, and was taking action. We just don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince62 Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 "But, this is not terribly abnormal." now Art...this is not the sort of factual argument you are so justly, and usually, proud of.......:-)...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[[ghost]] Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 Originally posted by ntotoro I don't know what parties you have gone to, but I can honestly say I've never seen a big party wind up with a shooting. Nick :laugh: me too... then again, rejects like me never go to party's at all.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synergist Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 SKINS=SNAKE BITTEN We are turning into the Dallas Cowboys of the 90's without the rings or championships.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted June 29, 2005 Author Share Posted June 29, 2005 Originally posted by fansince62 "But, this is not terribly abnormal." now Art...this is not the sort of factual argument you are so justly, and usually, proud of.......:-)...... I'm not sure what you mean. I'm neither proud nor upset about the fact I attended -- even hosted -- parties where guns were fired. I simply made the statement it's not all that terribly abnormal, depending on the crowd one has at the party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romberjo Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 Art, do tell: at those dozen-plus "parties where guns were fired," were they fired at people (or at Cowboy effigies, etc.)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted June 29, 2005 Author Share Posted June 29, 2005 Originally posted by Romberjo Art, do tell: at those dozen-plus "parties where guns were fired," were they fired at people (or at Cowboy effigies, etc.)? As a general statement, they were fired at fleeing people . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flexxskins Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 Originally posted by Art I'm not sure what you mean. I'm neither proud nor upset about the fact I attended -- even hosted -- parties where guns were fired. I simply made the statement it's not all that terribly abnormal, depending on the crowd one has at the party. I would never not come to a party hosted by you my friend (if I was invited). But I would definately include kevlar;) . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted June 29, 2005 Author Share Posted June 29, 2005 Originally posted by flexxskins I would never not come to a party hosted by you my friend (if I was invited). But I would definately include kevlar;) . You needn't worry about my parties anymore, Flexx. I now live in the world Al lives in where such incidents are shocking and implausible . The only thing that will get smoked at one of my parties now is some brisket . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flexxskins Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 Originally posted by Art You needn't worry about my parties anymore, Flexx. I now live in the world Al lives in where such incidents are shocking and implausible . The only thing that will get smoked at one of my parties now is some brisket . Cool, the kevlar would'nt fit anymore anyway:D . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCRoughrider Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 You all have to get out more. All of the charity events that I attend end in gunplay! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 Every party I attend there are guns involved... Smith and Wesson (My left and right biceps...) *flex* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wskin44 Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 Originally posted by [[ghost]] :laugh: me too... then again, rejects like me never go to party's at all.... :laugh: I'll invite you to my next party. Not that anyone would attend other than you and me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince62 Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 Art, Art, Art. Nothing in my world is shocking and implausible - especially after being subjected to your postings since pre-Extremeskins days! And after having been in real wars with real weapons. You made a generalization with no amplifiing proof. Since you are ther first to call people on the caprpet for similar failings....you can follow the rest. As for the actual content - have at it! My experience doesn't square with yours. Then again, we all have choices to make in life! Get back to the Skins man - the Skins! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted June 29, 2005 Author Share Posted June 29, 2005 Originally posted by fansince62 Art, Art, Art. Nothing in my world is shocking and implausible - especially after being subjected to your postings since pre-Extremeskins days! And after having been in real wars with real weapons. You made a generalization with no amplifiing proof. Since you are ther first to call people on the caprpet for similar failings....you can follow the rest. As for the actual content - have at it! My experience doesn't square with yours. Then again, we all have choices to make in life! Get back to the Skins man - the Skins! Al, There are times a man needs to learn to take past wounds and keep quiet. This, for you, is one of those times. As I said, with remarkable clarity, I've lived several parties where guns were fired. It's not all that abnormal a thing. Why? As you did nail, due to experiences that differ. What YOU failed to contemplate is such things occur. I did not fail to understand that to some, such things are surprising. Some things, though Al, aren't really important enough to get into. This, really, is ONE of those things. So, don't ever make me waste time telling you to quit being a baby again. Is that too much to ask. In entire regions of the world, gun fire at celebrations is PART of the celebration. In entire parts of this country, it is perfectly normal to take out guns and shoot them -- heck, every party in the country I've ever gone to has someone shooting at something. And, even within some elements of urban society, gun play is fairly normal. Enlightening you to the ways of the world based on personal experience really ought not be something that gets your hackles up. If, however, it is, then, I recommend you get back to those more important things you need to do, which, about now, is what you're going to say . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntotoro Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 Originally posted by Art In entire regions of the world, gun fire at celebrations is PART of the celebration. I can only think of two: The Middle East and Romney, West Va... :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codeorama Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 When ever I have a party at my house, I break out my guns and bust off some caps... no big deal... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HailSkinz1 Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 Originally posted by Art I'm not sure what you mean. I'm neither proud nor upset about the fact I attended -- even hosted -- parties where guns were fired. I simply made the statement it's not all that terribly abnormal, depending on the crowd one has at the party. :doh: Just because it has happened, certainly doesn't mean it's normal. Clearly shootings at parties are abnormal. We don't hear about the parties where there are no shootings. We wouldn't know a thing about this party if there wasn't a shooting. Me and many of my friends own guns and we have all hosted and attended several parites, large and small. And not once has a gun been fired. In fact, non-fatal shootings (which I think would accurately describe Taylor's and Arrington's situations - at least hopefully) are on the decline (http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/glance/firearmnonfatalno.htm), perhaps for everyone not associated with athletics. LaVar's statement was predictable, but necessary. It sounds to me like LaVar tried to keep the peace but perhaps some uninvited "guests" got a little out of control. Hail, H Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince62 Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 art....you really ought to practice more humility...at least once every millenium. you have no clue how the rest of the world works much less what is going on this day. why make ridiculous claims you cannot back up? I realize you enjoy the fight for the fight's sake. It's your most endearing and *amning trait. you are right about one thing. this is silly. as in all matters - I will defer to ego. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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