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The big difference being that in the pocket quarterbacks are protected like box turtles on a construction site. Running through the backfield they're fair game. Most of the vicious hits he took were when he was running wild and the one big one he took in the pocket drew a flag.

Kirk had a long run as a somewhat undersized QB without getting hurt. I recently saw he's 205. So agree weight isn't the be all and end all. With Jayden to me its his frame more so than his weight. Its very narrow. It looks like a frame that can be blown up easier. But am not doctor, don't know for sure.

There is an argument to be made about being hit by DBs down field in less traffic versus being hit in the pocket by BigFats where all the other BigFats are and how its probably not so safe in the pocket. But we all get the point - dude has to stay healthy and avoid contact when he can. I think a more fun argument is the best way to do that ^^^ is by diagnosing coverage quickly, allowing the ball to get out of your hands faster, and before the BigFats can get to your skinny little legs and crunchy bits. That's what Brady did so well. It wasn't staying in the pocket, it was getting the ball out before they had any reason to get that close to you. Jayden was good at this last season....better than his competition. Its part of why he was pressured so little. I am hoping he can further refine that part of his game. If not he's probably cooked in a few years anyway.

It's not so much for me about busting. But if he is a high end guard, not just a starter but a really good one, I'd take it and be happy, It's not like Scheriff where you got a high top 10 pick and hope he's a tackle and a high end guard instead feels dissappointing considering the context. Considering the context, a high end guard would be a hit as to that pick. Hopefully though I agree that he ends up a good tackle everything being equal.

SO i had to look up Tradlife and see what sort of idiocy this was. It is a movement of women who want to go to the traditional roles of marriage. Drop out of the work force, stay home and keep house. I can't see how that could strain a marriage, can you? Gotta be a democrat plot. The Agoraphobic Fantasy of Tradlife - Dissent Magazine ~Bang

We play so well against the Dodgers, O's...what do you want to bet we lose two of three to the White Sox--who are ****ing terrible. We are only going to win so many games running Meneses, Gallo, Weems, Corbin, Rosario (until lately). Ruiz needs to figure it out--he's be awful since coming back from being ill. I think they need to get Riley more ABs. But it's going to be so exciting the next couple years as we see Wood, Crews, House, Hassell (hopefully he keeps this up) work their way up to the bigs.

Braeden Daniels. Talk about a guy who should be a guard and not a tackle though Rivera stressed he's a tackle. 294 pounds with 33 inch arms. The dude was smooth at times in pass protect in college but those dimensons are not tackle dimesnions. At a minimum he needs to put on 15-18 pounds and hopefully not lose his quickness. But I don't have a lot of hope considering hearing about how he had a really bad camp last year. My gut from watching a Coleman game. And I got to watch more is that he can be a high end guard. I am mixed about tackle. i do agree with McGinn's scouts takes about his lateral movement - that's where he comes off stiff to me. But who knows? He didn't look bad to my eyes at tackle. I just wonder about his ability to deal with slippery speed types. i do think he brings the hands and power to deal with the position well. His upper body girth actually reminds me some ironically of Beebe -- not quite the same upperbody but he also doesn't seem to have the gut that Beebe does. He doesn't have the mean streak Beebe has. But watching him that one game at LT, he comes off to me as a dude who would be super stout as a pass blocker at LG because he just looks so strong and stout with heavy hands. In the run game, he has moments. I noticed some tout him on that count and some don't. I get the idea why some really dig him on that front and some don't. It's because at least in that one game he has highs and lows. Some highs included people mover blocks and some lows where he doesn't sustain his blocks well. Especally at guard, I'd trust him and big time so in pass protect and I'd try to develop him as a run blocker. High grades from PFF in 2022, low in 2023. But tough for me to factor 2023, I just don't see how you can play a full season with a high ankle sprain, that feels insane to me. His coach talked about it. Shows his toughness. But considering its easy to see watching that game from 2022 that his strength is anchoring, I can't see how I can judge him while taking his superpower away which is the consequence of playing on a bad ankle. LT is a tougher call for me. He certainly has the dimensions to play LT and the athleticism. But i can see that go either way. Training camp should be interesting with him. Sometimes in camp that's part of the point, try them and see how it plays out. Scheriff played LT in college. They tried him at RT in camp but quickly saw him as a RG. If Coleman ends up a high end LG, I'll take it. If so, hopefully Lucas holds up a LT and they sign another one ala Bahktari. I am not a Wylie guy. But I have some hope that he will be better in an offense that doesn't pass the ball 100 times a game. But if what evolves this off season is a really good interior O line with "meh" tackles. I'll take it for now and fiinish the O line next year. Last year we had a meh interior and meh tackles sans Cosmi. So having a strong interior O line would be an improvement. I don't think Lucas is that far off from Leno.

No clue who that person is or why this would interest me.

I'd certainly rather he work out at guard than bust, just hope we never have to find out if he's any good inside.

This is the type of crap corporations pull on the regular and they pocket millions from the people who do nothing about it but complain and the ones who are able to get a lawyer or get the story to go viral they rectify the situation, apologize for any inconvenience and go back to bilking everybody else. I really despise modern corporate America, it seems they all use the "great benefit insurance" business model.

Well, just going to pray Coleman works out at T. He doesn't have a high bar to exceed when competing with Wylie, Locus, Daniels and Scott. I am really hoping Braeden Daniels can prove out to be a worthy of his 4th round selections.

66% give or take of 3rd rounders are busts. If he ends up a high end LG instead of tackle, that's a hit and big time so IMO. I'd rather him be the solution at tackle don't get me wrong but if we get another Cosmi level guard in the third round, that's a killer pick if it unfolded like that.

#Scrapitude That was a scrappy effort last night. Shame they couldn't take advantage of RISP in the early innings better. Red Sox and then White Sox next. Hopefully they come out of it over 500.

I love the Scrapitude of this team. Coming back from two runs down, twice, almost a third time, against the best team in the AL right now. Staring pitching held a very good line up to 2 runs, on solo homers, is also really encouraging. Despite the bomb Harvey gave up to Montcaslte, him and Finney are fantastic at the end of the pen. Just need to replace the dreck like Meneses, Weems, etc. Good times are close. And Kimbrel sucks.

I knew he was a good athlete I missed or forgot he was on the freaks list

We don't need position versatile we need a starting left tackle. I really hope that attribute doesn't avail itself.

Didn't know that Jean-Baptiste was on Feldman's freaks list, that's cool, he was one of the players i was pounding the table for late

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Here's the full 8 minute interview with Coleman's college head coach...

You can't build Rome in a day. One of the same people who pressed on this same thread weeks before the draft that we are wrong (me included) for pushing them to take a lesser O lineman in the 2nd round instead of a better player at another spot and we don't need to be fixated on that OT spot -- is now pushing the opposite narrative that we should have taken an O lineman in retrospect. And I get its from another point of view. So I am not hitting that take, but it helps explain ironically their mindset matched this same mindset but their board was simply different. That's all. My board is different from people here and vice versa. Why shouldn't theirs be different? I gather his shift on the position is he doesn't agree with their takes on BPA that unfolded. OK that's fair. That's fine but that's just a battle of their opinion versus Peters opinion about talent. Or the same point applies to any of us. And again, OK to disagree. But I don't see how we know today that we are right and they are wrong. We got to see it unfold of course. And then we can gloat or lament or whatever like we did when last season unfolded. I bring this up here because I actually agree with the premise of BPA and not to force a pick at any spot. But IMHO I felt a couple of dudes in th 2nd, Fisher and Paul would be good. But I wasn't so certain of that where I'd bet the house on it. This regime is insanely detailed in diving into these players so at a minimum they had a lot more info than I did from watching these guys on youtube. So I'll at least see how it plays out. Hence my example of Gonzalez over Forbes. I still let their script play out before killing them on that one. . We can't say they blew it or made a mistake with 100% certainty until an actual mistake unfolds. Right now its just opinion and that's all good. Again clearly they didn't love the 2nd tier guys. We know that 100% because you don't try to trade up into the first if you are saying to yourself at the same time you know that Patrick Paul or Kingsley are studs, so lets just sit back and take them? Clearly they didn't feel that way. 100% we know that. They both tried to trade up because they didn't feel comfortable with that next tier AND skipped over that 2nd tier group THREE times in the 2nd round. Also, I don't buy the premise that some have that Daniels among all the young QBs is the one who needs the big time O line. I'll start with they all do. Maye got hammered behind his O line. It was his excuse for bad play in 4 games versus the dude thrived without it. Typically Qbs with wheels like Daniels are talked about the opposite way, that is, they can overcome a bad line easier. The Justin Fields slow processing style IMHO is apples to oranges to Daniels. Daniels had the higher PFF grade over Maye under pressure. If I recall Daniels had a killer rating versus the blitz, etc. Don't get me wrong, i loved Maye because of how he'd layer throws among other things. And Daniels had the much better O line. But just in general as to which QB needed the better O line, I don't believe its one over the other. As for the third round, I liked Beebe as much as anyone here. But the irony is reading the scouts description about him reminds me that i also liked Will Hernandez and I was wrong about him. Hernandez tape was fun, he would maul dudes Beebe style but was meh in the NFL. Not saying Beebe will be meh. I still like him but we don't know until we know I think the clear biggest difference between Beebe and Coleman as if they want a tackle -- it 100% isn't Beebe. Coleman has the measurables to do it. Who ends up better? Who knows will see. Coleman was 66 in Brugler's top 100. He was ranked as a 2nd-3rd rounder by the scouts -- identical to Beebe. As much as I love our takes here. Our board is not their board. https://www.golongtd.com/p/part-2-ol-can-this-long-armed-tyrannosaurus COOPER BEEBE, Kansas State (6-3, 322, 5.00, 2-3): Fifth-year senior, four-year starter. “Just a huge upper-body brawler,” one scout said. “Slow feet, limited athlete. No bend. Top-heavy dude. Smart, technique-sound tough guy but very limited as an athlete.” Started games at three positions: 26 at LG, 13 at LT and nine at RT. “Old-time offensive lineman mentality,” a second scout said. “Mauler. Nasty. Not as athletic as some of the others. He can short set in pass pro but if you ask him to play in space he’s got some problems. He’s a guard. I liked him much more last year (2022). Not as quick or mobile (in 2023).” Arms were just 31 1/2, hands were 9 ¼. “Short arms, like 30 some percent body fat,” said a second scout. “Not a really impressive athlete. He is a tough guy, I’m not going to take that away from him. He can move a defender in the run game. He’s similar to Will Hernandez. Hernandez didn’t look bad, though. He was just short.” From Kansas City, Kan. BRANDON COLEMAN, Texas Christian (6-4 ½, 316, 4.99, 2-3): Will be 24 in October. Six-year collegian with two years of junior college and four years at TCU, including three as a starter. “Born here, moved to Germany, grew up over there playing basketball,” said one scout. “Came back. Has played guard and tackle. He’s got sort of tackle dimensions but he’s tight laterally so most people forecast him as a guard. He’s a big body, and he can cover people up. Still somewhat new to the game.” His starts included 22 at LT and 12 at LG. His breakdown in 2023 was seven at LT, four at LG. “He reminded me of the Matthew Bergeron kid who played left tackle in college and had a good (rookie) season for the Falcons kicking inside to guard,” a second scout said. “He’s one of the top five or six interior offensive linemen. There’s a little up and down with his finish. He gets a little top-heavy. I think moving inside would (help).” Arms were 34 5/8, hands were a position-best 10 ¾. Added a third scout: “I have some reservations but he's a third-round guard. He lacks consistency of play because they’ve moved him around. He’s a JUCO kid. That kind of set him back. He just needs to be locked into one position.” From Denton, Texas.

If the no sweep streak weren’t on the line, I wouldn’t have even been mad about losing that one. They came back twice and almost 3X. Nats ‘ain’t too ****ing bad.’