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  2. Probably shouldnt have slept. Im more upset now than last night.....
  3. It's the age cliff, prime years of elite level production for WR's are typically age 21-26, you still capture production at 28, but the best years are almost always, the really elite ones, age 23, 24, 25, 26, sometimes the tail end of it is 27. 28 is part of the decline. WR's don't have the fall off in elite level production after age 26 like RB's do, but there've been studies of when the most mega elite (top 5), excellent (top 10-12) and very good seasons (13 and below) take place in the age cohorts, and very, very few of them happen post age 27. It's why so many WR's switch teams after their rookie contracts and/or after they were franchised, you typically get 80% of the top years of a WR's career on their rookie deal. Admittedly Aiyuk is just 26, he's still in his prime, probably has at least 2 more great seasons left before he's probably more an 18th-36th in the league WR rather than a top 10-15, but I'm not interested in paying for that when I expect us to only win 4-7 games this year, and 6-9 in '25.
  4. Thanks, I guess I don't remember that. Seemed like it would be an obvious move, and the team clearly thought so too.
  5. After Paul and the BYU kid you have a large drop off. Somebody will move up for him if one of those teams do not take. T
  6. Which teams will target him? Chargers, Titans, Packers, Saints and Bengals all pick between 37 and 50 and already got their OL's. Houston, Oakland, Indy, and Jacksonville all have that as a need on the nfl.com tracker site, but how many OL's do we like in that 40-70 zone, I have at least 4 or 5. I'm not fixated on Paul. There are other guys I'd be okay with. Id rather move down, risk losing Paul, get more assets, and get a guy later, be it a Guard or an OT.
  7. Right because they were far way instead we installed the government we preferred so we could project power and pay global politics games. we have a well established history of taking land adjacent to us as we see fit. 🤷‍♂️ edit: also, maybe I’m wrong, but I do seem to recall us taking some pacific islands and keeping them at least for a while.
  8. When did being 28 at WR = past your prime?? Im not in favor or trading for a vet receiver either but 28 is absolutely in the prime years for a receiver. There is at least another 4-5 years of premium production if you get lucky with injuries.
  9. I also think since they got a few players on a 1 year contract so they want to hit the ground running and don't want to take more time than needed to develop at the QB position.
  10. I bet the foot injury and other issues in his career w/health has teams skittish. Wonder if he's one of those classic injury related falls down the draft boards.
  11. So the night’s sleep I prescribed didn’t help, I see
  12. Personally I have zero interest. We already have an overage WR', we are not gonna be good this year, probably not next either as we build this thing up from scratch, I imagine they are targeting second half of '25, and '26 for being a .500+ to playoff team, in '26 dude will be 28, like McLaurin was last year, outside of his prime. I am not terribly interested in paying for a guy's decline when we aren't even likely to be competitive for half or more of the contract, I like these moves when we are getting good, I'd make a move like this 2 years from now, but now? No. Just don't see it. If we could get him cheap, okay, but I doubt it, and there were and will be FA classes pumping out quality options going forward as the WR classes of '20, '21 and '22 were all solid to superb. No need to overpay in $$$ and draft capital when we can do it just with $$$, and do it when they aren't bad calorie seasons. For me, this kind of signing (would definitely not due a trade) makes sense in '25 or '26, not in '24. We already have two vets on the roster, get the kid who he'll grow with instead. Plus there's the rumor that they're trying to move Deebo instead.
  13. Drug cartel that was elected to run the country as its official government **
  14. If so, hopefully Tress charged him a pretty penny for it.
  15. Listening you to guys, I'm rethinking my thoughts on taking OT in round 2. I think a guy like Paul might be there in the 3rd. Si, I'd rather go with 2 of the 4 (Ladd, Cooper, Kool-Aid, or even Ja'Taveon).
  16. Here in the Tailgate forum we're talking about Pecker...while over in the Stadium forum we're talking about Penix. And meanwhile, on the Congress thread we're talking about Johnson. There's no way you can convince me there isn't a God lol...
  17. Today is a big day. This is were the GM and his staff earn their salaries. If things go well we are about to draft the core of our team for the next 5-7 years.
  18. I think this is not true. We didn't acquire land in Afghanistan, Germany, or Japan after WWII. We worked to try to rebuild those countries and their governments and leave them better off (at least as we see it) then we found it. Something Israel over the decades with Palestinians haven't done. Israel hasn't and in this case hasn't shown any indication after we have when we were attacked or fought a war. We spent billions of dollars on things like building roads and schools and a Afghani government/military in Afghanistan. Israel has never done anything like that. That you can't see the distinction/difference is shocking to me.
  19. Yeah the max I would trade back to SF is the SF comp pick in late 3rd.
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