BRAVEONTHEWARPATH93 Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 First thing firsts, spare the KC talk. Clearly he has not outgrown the Rex gene. This isn't an RG3/Kirk thread. It's a team thread. Secondary depth = nightmare O-Line depth = nightmare Linebackers = hot and cold. All of these areas are in the shape they are because of that trade coupled with the cap penalty. Those picks could have been used to shore up or even find starters. At this point, RG3 has to win a SB to justify it and that looks as unlikely as ever. I'll never fault them for making the move because risks are necessary but my goodness this team seems cursed. Nothing ever works out. Ever. Injuries had to happen to our guy...because we're the ****ing Redskins. I honestly hate being a fan of this team some...(99.% of the time). Please for the love of God/Buddha/Luke Skywalker, please don't turn this into a QB debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAVEONAWARPATH Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 The RG3 trade isn't the problem imo. Getting hit with that salary cap restriction at the last minute is what really hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipwhich Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 The RG3 trade isn't the problem imo. Getting hit with that salary cap restriction at the last minute is what really hurt. Oh please. Not having a GM who builds a team is what hurts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 Anytime you mortgage the future for the present it hurts the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAVEONTHEWARPATH93 Posted September 26, 2014 Author Share Posted September 26, 2014 The RG3 trade isn't the problem imo. Getting hit with that salary cap restriction at the last minute is what really hurt. **** how did i forget that nugget. I'll add it in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duckus Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 Oh please. Not having a GM who builds a team is what hurts. What do you mean not having a real GM???? Bruce Allen is the man. He runs the best alumni ice cream social events AND has successfully complied an all-star cast of failed Buccaneers coaches. What is not to love? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
War Paint Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 It was a very costly trade. We should've done what the Colts did and tanked the season. We are screwed for the next several years. At least we have our old youtube videos to watch. What do you mean not having a real GM???? Bruce Allen is the man. He runs the best alumni ice cream social events AND has successfully complied an all-star cast of failed Buccaneers coaches. What is not to love? Obviously you never tried the ice cream. If you did, you would realize what an accomplishment it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puma Kane Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 The RG3 trade didn't have nothing to do with 4 picks tonight. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAVEONTHEWARPATH93 Posted September 26, 2014 Author Share Posted September 26, 2014 Anytime you mortgage the future for the present it hurts the team. and i remember giving you **** in 2011 for being pissed they beat Seattle... man....smh. Apologies The RG3 trade didn't have nothing to do with 4 picks tonight. lol ...yeah.... read the thing...the thing at the top...next time. Read it. Yeah ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burgundyrush Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 I think going foward we need to build a team instead of going for the big splash. No guarantee 2-3 years from now RG3 will be here or even be a franchise QB. Whether he is or not we need to fix this offensive line and defense then worry about the skill positions last. Also need to go the Brett Hundley route (if he slides late in the draft) need a RG3 clone as a backup instead of a straight up pocket passer until we get this line fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 Remember when Dan Snyder used to do something after a game like this? Like send a giant tub of vanilla ice cream to a DC? A small, irrational, vengeful part of me wishes he was still that guy. How much worse off would we really be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballin2041 Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 you guys are smoking. RG3 is the real deal and you make that trade 100 out of 100 times. You didnt make this thread in his rookie year so dont make it while he's down. Let it play out and you will see that a top notch QB is worth that and more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thekyle1591 Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 Rg3 trade lol. If you really think rg3 is what is wrong with this team, then you're part of the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stang2012 Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 I agree with the OP.. It's really really tough to be a Redskins fan. Nothing ever goes our way and we fixate over one position when our problems our much much deeper than that. My worry is we spent all those picks on two quarterbacks and neither one may be the future here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puma Kane Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 and i remember giving you **** in 2011 for being pissed they beat Seattle... man....smh. Apologies ...yeah.... read the thing...the thing at the top...next time. Read it. Yeah ok Yeah, the RG3 trade didn't have anything to do with the 4 picks thrown tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 and i remember giving you **** in 2011 for being pissed they beat Seattle... man....smh. Apologies I don't quite remember that but I hope I wasn't too much of a jerk. I've calmed down and tried to become at least a little more stoic over the years. I was happy we got RG3 at the time, and he's still my favorite player on the team. That said, what we gave up to draft him, combined with our salary cap hits really set us back. We did need a QB, but we also needed so much more. We need an offensive line. We need a secondary. We need competent people to put the right guys into the right spots. You can mortgage the future. If it doesn't work out in the present then it is all for nothing... which is what we have right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hersh Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 It's not just the trade though that is a major blow. Hypothetically if they had just gone with Cousins, that's 3 first round picks and a 2nd on non-QB positions. However, that trade and other moves are indicative of the rudderless ship that is this franchise. Examples: Let's change the head coach, but keep the guy who lead terrible defenses. Let's sign Desean Jackson even though a number 2 receiver was already signed and could really have used that money to upgrade other positions. Let's draft two QBs in the same draft and on and on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAVEONTHEWARPATH93 Posted September 26, 2014 Author Share Posted September 26, 2014 Rg3 trade lol. If you really think rg3 is what is wrong with this team, then you're part of the problem. And another one that didn't read the OP. Any more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGloryDays Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 Any time you mortgage the future for RG3, it hurts. The answer at QB isn't on the team or in the league. The team itself, stinks. The biggest thing I learned today was that Gibbs 2.0 was the best we are going to do for a long time. Hall of fame coach does so much with so little. This is more or less Zorn 2.0. Inexperienced coach + bad players = bad team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAVEONTHEWARPATH93 Posted September 26, 2014 Author Share Posted September 26, 2014 Yeah, the RG3 trade didn't have anything to do with the 4 picks thrown tonight. If you think the 4 picks were why we lost... Dude, 3 came when they were already down double digits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thekyle1591 Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 And another one that didn't read the OP. Any more? Rg3 trade= Rg3. Look who the Rams got. Michael Brockers, Janoris Jenkins, Greg Robinson and Brian Quick. I would take Rg3 over those scrubs 100 times out of 100. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinfan2k Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 also it doesn't help that this team doesn't go through a full rebuild. Why can't we start Moses and Long long? What are we waiting for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoCalMike Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 Shanahan was our GM, make no mistake about it. Allen was the money guy, the guy who made the numbers work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAVEONTHEWARPATH93 Posted September 26, 2014 Author Share Posted September 26, 2014 I don't quite remember that but I hope I wasn't too much of a jerk. I've calmed down and tried to become at least a little more stoic over the years. I was happy we got RG3 at the time, and he's still my favorite player on the team. That said, what we gave up to draft him, combined with our salary cap hits really set us back. We did need a QB, but we also needed so much more. We need an offensive line. We need a secondary. We need competent people to put the right guys into the right spots. You can mortgage the future. If it doesn't work out in the present then it is all for nothing... which is what we have right now. Nah you were cool. I agree though. If we just drafted RG3 straight up, it would be ok (not really but kinda). But giving all that up was backbreaking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
War Paint Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 Rg3 trade lol. If you really think rg3 is what is wrong with this team, then you're part of the problem. It's not the fact that it's RG3. He's talking about how steep the cost was and how it's left us very thin throughout the roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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