Fordranger76's Offensive Line Statistics Thread

Hi guys. I have recently began to watch the replays of the games and focusing completely on the offensive line and their ability to block. Now by all means this is not 100 percent spot on and I am sure I have made a few mistakes here and there. I did not include penalties or tight end and fullback blocking. These are based off an effective block. Blocks where our lineman were pushed back which resulted in breaking up the play or a missed block that did not result in a play being stopped were counted as a negative as well. Let me know if you guys would like me to continue to keep up with this data. Please dont grill me for it haha.

Year to Date Stats

Pass Blocking

Trent Williams

308/362 85.0%

Kory Lichtensteiger

325/399 81.4%

Will Montgomery

357/399 89.4%

Chris Chester

318/399 79.6%

Tyler Polumbus

274/399 68.6%

Jordan Black

27/37 72.9%

Run Blocking

Trent Williams

257/320 80.3%

Kory Lichtensteiger

216/345 62.6%

Will Montgomery

242/345 70.1%

Chris Chester

216/345 62.6%

Tyler Polumbos

222/345 64.3%

Jordan Black

12/25 48.0%

Week 1 vs Saints

Pass Blocking

Trent Williams

24/29 82.7%

Kory Lichtensteiger

25/29 86.2%

Will Montgomery

27/29 93.1%

Chris Chester

28/29 96.5%

Tyler Polumbus

27/29 93.1%

Run Blocking

Trent Williams

30/38 78.9%

Kory Lichtensteiger

22/39 56.4%

Will Montgomery

27/39 69.2%

Chris Chester

22/39 56.4%

Tyler Polumbus

17/39 43.5%

Jordan Black

1/1 100.0%

Week 2 vs Rams

Pass Blocking

Trent Williams

26/32 81.2%

Kory Lichtensteiger

28/32 87.5%

Will Montgomery

28/32 87.5%

Chris Chester

26/32 81.2%

Tyler Polumbus

15/32 46.8%

Run Blocking

Trent Williams

20/26 76.9%

Kory Lichtensteiger

19/26 73.0%

Will Montgomery

19/26 73.0%

Chris Chester

15/26 57.6%

Tyler Polumbus

13/26 50.0%

Week 3 vs Bengals

Pass Blocking

Trent Williams

6/6 100.0%

Kory Lichtensteiger

34/43 79.0%

Will Montgomery

38/43 88.3%

Chris Chester

34/43 79.0%

Tyler Polumbus

26/43 60.4%

Jordan Black

27/37 72.9%

Run Blocking

Trent Williams

7/8 87.5%

Kory Lichtensteiger

25/32 78.1%

Will Montgomery

26/32 81.2%

Chris Chester

22/32 68.7%

Tyler Polumbus

19/32 59.3%

Jordan Black

11/24 45.8%

Week 4 vs Buccaneers

Pass Blocking

Trent Williams

32/41 78.0%

Kory Lichtensteiger

27/41 65.8%

Will Montgomery

37/41 90.2%

Chris Chester

25/41 60.9%

Tyler Polumbus

28/41 68.2%

Run Blocking

Trent Williams

24/30 80.0%

Kory Lichtensteiger

13/30 43.3%

Will Montgomery

18/30 60.0%

Chris Chester

14/30 46.6%

Tyler Polumbus

13/30 43.3%

Week 5 vs Falcons

Pass Blocking

Trent Williams

23/27 85.1%

Kory Lichtensteiger

21/27 77.7%

Will Montgomery

24/27 88.8%

Chris Chester

21/27 77.7%

Tyler Polumbus

20/27 74.0%

Run Blocking

Trent Williams

17/21 80.9%

Kory Lichtensteiger

16/21 76.1%

Will Montgomery

15/21 71.4%

Chris Chester

11/21 52.3%

Tyler Polumbus

14/21 66.6%

Week 6 vs Vikings

Pass Blocking

Trent Williams

25/27 92.5%

Kory Lichtensteiger

21/27 77.7%

Will Montgomery

22/27 81.4%

Chris Chester

19/27 70.3%

Tyler Polumbus

16/27 59.2%

Run Blocking

Trent Williams

20/25 80.0%

Kory Lichtensteiger

18/25 72.0%

Will Montgomery

17/25 68.0%

Chris Chester

13/25 52.0%

Tyler Polumbus

19/25 76.0%

Week 7 vs Giants

Pass Blocking

Trent Williams

29/32 90.6%

Kory Lichtensteiger

28/32 87.5%

Will Montgomery

30/32 93.7%

Chris Chester

28/32 87.5%

Tyler Polumbus

29/32 90.6%

Run Blocking

Trent Williams

33/37 89.1%

Kory Lichtensteiger

26/37 70.2%

Will Montgomery

27/37 72.9%

Chris Chester

25/37 67.5%

Tyler Polumbus

30/37 81.0%

Week 8 vs Steelers

Pass Blocking

Trent Williams

32/38 84.2%

Kory Lichtensteiger

36/38 94.7%

Will Montgomery

36/38 94.7%

Chris Chester

33/38 86.8%

Tyler Polumbus

34/38 89.4%

Run Blocking

Trent Williams

16/18 88.8%

Kory Lichtensteiger

12/18 66.6%

Will Montgomery

15/18 83.3%

Chris Chester

12/18 66.6%

Tyler Polumbus

16/18 88.8%

Week 9 vs Panthers

Pass Blocking

Trent Williams

46/52 88.4%

Kory Lichtensteiger

45/52 86.5%

Will Montgomery

46/52 88.4%

Chris Chester

39/52 75.0%

Tyler Polumbus

32/52 61.5%

Run Blocking

Trent Williams

17/28 60.7%

Kory Lichtensteiger

15/28 53.5%

Will Montgomery

12/28 42.8%

Chris Chester

14/28 50.0%

Tyler Polumbus

18/28 64.2%

Week 10 vs Eagles

Pass Blocking

Trent Williams

19/23 82.6%

Kory Lichtensteiger

15/23 65.2%

Will Montgomery

17/23 73.9%

Chris Chester

19/23 82.6%

Tyler Polumbus

10/23 43.4%

Run Blocking

Trent Williams

24/29 82.7%

Kory Lichtensteiger

14/29 48.2%

Will Montgomery

19/29 65.5%

Chris Chester

22/29 75.8%

Tyler Polumbus

19/29 65.5%

Week 11 vs Cowboys

Pass Blocking

Trent Williams

26/33 78.7%

Kory Lichtensteiger

25/33 75.7%

Will Montgomery

30/33 90.9%

Chris Chester

29/33 87.8%

Tyler Polumbus

24/33 72.7%

Run Blocking

Trent Williams

24/29 82.7%

Kory Lichtensteiger

13/29 44.8%

Will Montgomery

21/29 72.4%

Chris Chester

22/29 75.8%

Tyler Polumbus

17/29 58.6%

Week 12 vs Giants

Pass Blocking

Trent Williams

20/22 90.9%

Kory Lichtensteiger

20/22 90.9%

Will Montgomery

22/22 100.0%

Chris Chester

17/22 77.2%

Tyler Polumbus

13/22 59.0%

Run Blocking

Trent Williams

25/31 80.6%

Kory Lichtensteiger

23/31 74.1%

Will Montgomery

26/31 83.8%

Chris Chester

24/31 77.4%

Tyler Polumbus

27/31 87.0%

Huh... Jordan Black was batting 1.000 until Sunday...

So just so I know what you are doing, this is the percentage of times they made an effective block or a perfect block? I think this is an interesting thread myself. But you'd have to break it down further... vs the blitz... down and distance, etc.

You know how we get.

You know how we get.

Rabble rabble, and such.

Interesting stats, I'll definitely be looking here for information as we go on.

I agree with DC. Will turn into a really good thread. Just need a better explanation please.

Effective block. Some of these are given a successful block because of the roll out to the other side. Some are also given a good block due to a breakdown of play. Just gives a good way to see who is a mess and who isnt. And btw Tyler Polumbus has missed about every attempt at a cut block I have reviewed for both games. He looks like a goldfish that hopped out of its bowl flailing around on the ground.

Rabble rabble, and such.

Can't forget the what not... #where'scali?

---------- Post added September-25th-2012 at 03:50 PM ----------

Effective block. Some of these are given a successful block because of the roll out to the other side. Some are also given a good block due to a breakdown of play. Just gives a good way to see who is a mess and who isnt. And btw Tyler Polumbus has missed about every attempt at a cut block I have reviewed for both games. He looks like a goldfish that hopped out of its bowl flailing around on the ground.

Awesome!

Do you have the ability to do a screen capture to go along with your break down?

This could be sick.

Can't forget the what not... #where'scali?

---------- Post added September-25th-2012 at 03:50 PM ----------

Awesome!

Do you have the ability to do a screen capture to go along with your break down?

This could be sick.

I am afraid I do not. I am just going off of my DVR replay and rewinding the play over and over again to make an accurate read on any given play. I probably could break it down into very very small details but I may have an aneurysm if I do this. Each game takes me about 2 hours to review and that is without even watching the defense. If I get the free time to get into more detail I will add it as the season goes on if there is a demand for it.

I am afraid I do not. I am just going off of my DVR replay and rewinding the play over and over again to make an accurate read on any given play. I probably could break it down into very very small details but I may have an aneurysm if I do this. Each game takes me about 2 hours to review and that is without even watching the defense. If I get the free time to get into more detail I will add it as the season goes on if there is a demand for it.

Thanks fordranger. I for one, appreciate this effort.

Awesome work fordranger; it is much appreciated.

Def keep it coming.

I'm liking this thread FR76!

To clarify, a block where the OL doesn't do what he might have intended, but still manages to keep the DL out of the play/out of the way is considered a successful block, right?

I'm liking this thread FR76!

To clarify, a block where the OL doesn't do what he might have intended, but still manages to keep the DL out of the play/out of the way is considered a successful block, right?

Yes and no. If the dl blows the ol up on a particular play that is a negative even if he dosent disrupt the play. But if he does a good enough job and prevents the guy from getting to the Qb or ball carrier that is a successful block.

Cool thread. Thanks for sharing.

Looking forward to the Game 3 stats. I'm sure they're awful.

Week 3 impressions? Trent Williams did a great job with the limited time he was on the field. Only play he messed up was the very last one he was involved with and that was the last play of the day for him. Kory Lichtensteiger continues to improve in my eyes and he is emerging as a very solid starter for us after coming back from injury. Will Montgomery is doing just fine in my eyes but he does get pushed into the backfield sometimes but all in all he is very respectable. Chris Chester is doing I guess you can say ok...though I have been noticing he takes off way too many plays. He will engage the defender but simply gives up too early on the play and does not re-engage. Tyler Polumbus is clearly the weak link of the team. I really believe if he continues to get the start he will be the reason that RG3 or Alfred Morris will go on IR. He is a waste. Jordan Black actually didnt look as bad after looking at the film. He is a back up after all. The main problem with Black was when he missed a block he missed big. I mean huge. He actually did better in pass protection than the run game. During the run blocks he actually looked totally lost. Missed blocking assignments and looking totally clueless as what to do on the play.

Good idea! This will take some digestion for me to fully be on track with what you're seeing, but it is sure nice to see some solid info from the research.

Thanks! Line play is one thing that the average fan could stand to learn about, including myself.

~Bang

Wow! Good stuff FR76! Its neat to be able to compare the line from game to game. It also gives a bit of proof that RT really is the weak spot. With the exception of Week 1 Pass Blocking, Polumbus seems to be at or near the bottom of every stat.

Thank you! This is awesome.

If you like doing this, you can make some money at it, I think.

Read Moneyball. Collecting stats that are predictive of a game's outcome is highly valuable data. Has been hard in football. But even if this help fantasy leagues, not real games, you might have a cool biz idea. Just a thought...

I remember thinking last year that our OL took a huge step back with the loss of Lichtensteiger, but it looks like he is doing well so far this year. I like it when stats back what I think my eyes are telling me. I can also see why we run left. As bad as Polumbus has been, it looks almost like a system problem. I'm not saying that as a get out of jail free card. It's just between he and Chester, the right side is having a rough time. If I were planning to defend the Skins, I would put pressure on the skins right side of the OL because the odds on both of them being effective isn't high.

When I see two numbers like theirs next to each other, I have a hard time separating out the two players because I wonder if some of the problems aren't caused by miscommunication or clumsy handoff of assignments between the two of them.

I remember thinking last year that our OL took a huge step back with the loss of Lichtensteiger, but it looks like he is doing well so far this year. I like it when stats back what I think my eyes are telling me. I can also see why we run left. As bad as Polumbus has been, it looks almost like a system problem. I'm not saying that as a get out of jail free card. It's just between he and Chester, the right side is having a rough time. If I were planning to defend the Skins, I would put pressure on the skins right side of the OL because the odds on both of them being effective isn't high.

When I see two numbers like theirs next to each other, I have a hard time separating out the two players because I wonder if some of the problems aren't caused by miscommunication or clumsy handoff of assignments between the two of them.

From what I have seen the problems on the right side are that Polumbus can hardly ever stick a block at all. Also when the play requires him to do a cut block he has missed the opponent every single time. I am not lying here either. He has not had a cut block work yet this season! When he does engage it isn't long and the lineman against him rips the block to shreds. Even on the good blocks that he has you can tell that another second or two and Polumbus would miss the block. Chester in my opinion is lazy with his blocks. During the course of the game sometimes he can flat out stick a defender and not allow him to get any movement at all. I mean he seriously can nail the guy. But on half of the plays he will play touch with the lineman and what results is the lineman reads the play and blows past him. If Chester would just play with intensity on every play imo he would be one of the better blockers on the team.

I like it!

Proves even more how crucial Trent is for our run blocking. It was IMMEDIATELY apparent when he was out of the Bengals game. Not sure we have a great chance of beating anyone without him....

Thank you! This is awesome.

If you like doing this, you can make some money at it, I think.

Read Moneyball. Collecting stats that are predictive of a game's outcome is highly valuable data. Has been hard in football. But even if this help fantasy leagues, not real games, you might have a cool biz idea. Just a thought...

I will tell you this. It is very interesting going back and watching the lineman work. I find it to be really fun to be honest. It really makes you appreciate what a good lineman can do for any given play. I can only wish that I could compile meaningful blocking statistics that are a go to guide or something. The amount of effort required though would be insane. I really believe it would be close to a full time job to get it down to an exact science. You can really see who is a fit in the zone blocking scheme for our beloved team. Problem is I honestly believe only two of our guys are a fit haha.

Ford Ranger, can you also do a season average for each and keep that on top? That would be sick! Awesome job and thanks for doing this!

Looks like Polumbus is getting used...

Great thread! I want to see this each week...thanks a lot!

I appreciate the effort Fordranger, and I think this thread or chronichle is a great idea.

I'm curious how you break down what is/isn't an effective block in the passing game and the running game.

e.g.-is passing blocking based on how many seconds they sustain their block 3s is a stalemate in the running game considered a good/bad block vs being pushed back or driving their man off the line etc...)

Also, I think you should indicate how often each OL received help from another OL, TE or RB.

Off the top I think your grade for Jordan Black from the Bengal's game was generous.

Good work though-

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Did you happen to grade the OL out during preseason?

I'm curious how the OL looked then especially: Willie Smith, Tom Compton, Adam Gettis, Hurt, LeRibeus, Poloumbus and Black

Ford Ranger, can you also do a season average for each and keep that on top? That would be sick! Awesome job and thanks for doing this!

Looks like Polumbus is getting used...

I will be doing that very shortly.

---------- Post added September-27th-2012 at 12:00 PM ----------

I appreciate the effort Fordranger, and I think this thread or chronichle is a great idea.

I'm curious how you break down what is/isn't an effective block in the passing game and the running game.

e.g.-is passing blocking based on how many seconds they sustain their block 3s is a stalemate in the running game considered a good/bad block vs being pushed back or driving their man off the line etc...)

Also, I think you should indicate how often each OL received help from another OL, TE or RB.

Off the top I think your grade for Jordan Black from the Bengal's game was generous.

Good work though-

---------- Post added September-27th-2012 at 11:27 AM ----------

Did you happen to grade the OL out during preseason?

I'm curious how the OL looked then especially: Willie Smith, Tom Compton, Adam Gettis, Hurt, LeRibeus, Poloumbus and Black

The best way I can tell you how I grade is how the lineman keeps a man contained. In other words if he keeps the man out of the play via a solid block, a chop, or out positioning I will give him credit for a solid block. If the play breaks down due to a receiver not getting open I will not fault the blocker. For a missed block it can be a number of things. If the lineman gets pushed back into the backfield and causes the running back to adjust or the Quarterback to escape they will get a negative. Also whiffs and lack of effort which results in a defender getting loose will result in a negative. During the running plays you can tell when a lineman gets out muscled and after watching it for a while I can pick up who is getting beat on a block. The running game blocks tend to be lower because of the amount of stops that tend to happen at the line of scrimmage. The hole will get close or too much penetration. Being that I am watching each individual lineman I can pick up who caused the breakdown. As for the help that the lineman get it isn't as much as one may think. The tight ends usually will be one on one with a block believe it or not. The running backs will pick up a blitzer. For some reason I havent seen the Skins do much double teaming with the backs and tight ends. You will see the guards helping with the center and visa versa but I believe this is do to scheme more than anything. As far as Jordan Black is concerned I just called it as it happened. The problem with Black was when he got beat he got beat BAD. As in if a 5 year old was out there bad. That is why it was so easy to point the finger at Black. He struggled much more in the running game than the passing game but you have to remember a lot of passes are out of RG3's hand very quickly. This kind of thing can be subjective after all and I do my best to give credit to a lineman when its due. I did a little bit of watching the line in the preseason. It was hard to see what was going on though because the pre season camera crew was horrible. The camera was panned so far out that you were lucky to even get a glimpse of the number on the jersey and they missed some plays completely.

One thing that would be interesting would be to see who players are lined up against as well. Polumbus might be getting used, but if he's lined up across from Chris Long, you almost have to accept it. Meanwhile, if, hypothetically, Williams is lined up against some no-name and gets beat, it looks far worse.

Basically, some way to differentiate between the level of player they're up against would be cool. I'd say that 75% pass blocking against a Chris Long-like player is better than 85% against some nobody.

But don't worry if you can't get those stats, it's probably a lot of information to sift through.