Hooper Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 Anyone watch last night? Once again no Skins highlights, but in their roundtable discussion they highlighted the Bailey-Portis deal and all agreed that the Redskins got the better of it. The argument seemed to be that Portis was coming on strong and with the new rules it's just not a smart move to pay a cornerback that much money. Thought it was interesting to see the "experts" finally come around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfan93 Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsNut73 Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 You sure you were not dreaming??? Wish I saw it...that would be a first from the media... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrfriedm Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 Are those idiots on "Inside the NFL" really experts? :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afparent Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 First off, they need to start showing some damn highlights Secondly, oh yea, you watch the media is going to be coming around if not this year, next year for sure. I hope the players boycott the national media! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmchairRedskin Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 I saw that. I was pretty surprised that they took that stand. Also Marino said it would be great if the Redskins got into the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooper Posted December 23, 2004 Author Share Posted December 23, 2004 Yeah, I caught that too. Hmm. Maybe I don't want Peyton to break Marino's record after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECU-ALUM Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 I think it's safe to say after watching Porter, Kennison & Johnson burn Bailey people are seeing that we got the better end of the deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matador36 Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 "Somehow, 'I told you so' just doesn't quite say it" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirk Diggler Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 The media recognizing that the Skins did something right? Not in this lifetime. :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big#44 Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 Originally posted by Dirk Diggler The media recognizing that the Skins did something right? Not in this lifetime. :laugh: its all a sign of the changes to come Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funkyalligator Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 Heck yeah....I always turn it on and hope to see some highlights but yet I never do.....it pisses me off so much....but hearing this almost made me forget my problem with them..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Mike Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 Originally posted by big#44 its all a sign of the changes to come That, or a sign of the Apocalypse.:laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 Most of us knew at the time the Skins got the better end of the deal. Anyone who knows football knew that -- though, as Redskin fans few of us thought we needed to give the second-round pick as well. The power of the media though shaped the question and public opinion quickly. Such is the immediate disdain of Snyder, the media quickly moved as a group to deny what everyone knows -- that a runner is generally more important to franchise success than a corner -- and decided the primary point was since a corner is harder to find, it was a trade that favored the Broncos. Which position is harder to find is only relevant in the draft. Any other time when you are dealing with KNOWN commodities, the question changes since you know you have the runner and the corner and which is more important to a franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TODD Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 My take on it is similar, except people aren't factoring how well Shawn Springs as played. He's having a better season than Bailey had last year for us. Not to mention that the Broncos' running game is suffering badly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panthro Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 the media will have to start slowly turning their attention to the skins as the season wraps up cuz they know that next year we're going to be a major force in the league. they also know that we may just surprise a few people here at the end of this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedskinsNation Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 This is the way I look at it... We traded Bailey who we thought and now its apparent that he is not as dominant as THEY (media) made him out to be. We got Portis who has been productive so just look at his #'s the last 2 years and then this year (even though our offense has struggled & the season isnt over yet) and thats indicative that he can perform and should be considered one of the most consistent, durable, dependable backs in the league (no matter what team he's played on) even though he has had a down year (for him). But...look what the Broncos did w/their 2nd round pick (the one we gave them)....they drafted a ............... Running back! That right there should tell you that they werent sold on the Griffins, Hearts, Droughns etc...that they had on their roster. You would think that w/73 different backs and the "system" that they have that Trung Canditate could run the ball for them and be successful...my point is that they knew they HAD A VOID to fill on their roster and it wasnt just the SYSTEM. Not to mention that we gave up Chump and a pick for CP....so all parties in the deal knew who the crown jewel of the trade was for. Us, well we had a void and new that we didnt have a stockpile of corners ready to throw in the mix, so we got Springs who has played as good as you can this year. Champ being in the probowl is a joke but look at the other corners in the AFC this year and there arent that many studs....if Tori James made it (i dont give a damm about his # of picks) on a team that isnt a top defensive team and has no shot at the playoffs then that should tell you something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtyler42 Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 They need to start showing some highlights of us on that show... That is just a sign of how the media is going to slowly but surely begin to jump on the bandwagon b/c if we make the playoffs this yr they have to talk about us, and they know next yr we are going to be in the playoffs for sure... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfujskins Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 Originally posted by TODD My take on it is similar, except people aren't factoring how well Shawn Springs as played. And he STILL doesnt make the pro bowl:doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denverdan Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 I really don't know why this is still being debated since Baily was not going to stay in Washington, the debate should be, was it worth being compensated for his loss by trading a #2 pick. We lose Baily regardless, they get Tatum Bell. Sounds like a good deal both ways to me. Neither Baily or Portis has preformed up to media expectations. Here is the real question, which team over payed to get their player? I guess we will find that out in about 3 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukhig Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 They also said that Champ shouldn't have made the Pro Bowl and that he got in on name alone. They said the same of Chris Macalister too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 From ESPN: Washington Rushing yards per game 2003 - 103.3 (#23 NFL) 2004 - 111.7 (#17 NFL) Passing Yards Allowed per game 2003 - 199.7 (#14 NFL) 2004 - 178.0 (#5 NFL) Denver Rushing yards per game 2003 - 164.3 (#2 NFL) 2004 - 137.8 (#6 NFL) Passing Yards Allowed per game 2003 - 176.8 (#6 NFL) 2004 - 191.9 (#10 NFL) Looking at this you can see the Washington improved in both rushing offense and pass defense. Denver on the other hand took a step back in both areas. Clearly the two players in question are not the only factors in this but the facts are the facts. Washington has improved in areas affected by the trade Denver has not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mookie0720 Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 Welcome to last year Inside the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSF Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 Good post Destino. Those numbers pretty much say it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigchuck Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 This Link says it all how some Bronco Fans think of Roland. http://mb1.scout.com/fbroncosupdatefrm1.showMessage?topicID=847.topic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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