bakedtater1 Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 **** that puke above ^^ and the eagles jerzey he's wearing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volsmet Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Pff ranks us 23rd at cb. https://www.pff.com/news/pro-ranking-all-32-secondaries-ahead-of-the-2019-nfl-season Pff ranks us 14th on the Oline, with Trent Williams starting in the highest valued position. https://www.pff.com/news/pro-nfl-offensive-line-rankings-all-32-teams-units-entering-2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malapropismic Depository Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, volsmet said: Pff ranks us 23rd at cb. https://www.pff.com/news/pro-ranking-all-32-secondaries-ahead-of-the-2019-nfl-season I think a good indicator of CB level, though not super exact, is Pass Defense Ranking. Last year, our pass defense was ranked 15th in the NFL. Not great, but not bad, and not nearly as bad as the CB ranking. And we have the same starting corners this year. And upgraded Safety. So I think that's more meaningful, than their formula for rating our corners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJ Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 On 8/22/2019 at 7:12 PM, Skinsinparadise said: We need @volsmet to negotiate the deal. Bruce apparently might not be loved over there in the Texan FO. 😀 If that's so, it reminds me some of the talk about the RG3 deal. At the time it was said that someone with the Rams I think it was either their GM or Fisher who couldn't stand Bruce so others had to do the direct negotiation. I can see that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volsmet Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Trying to talk football semi-seriously on the ES, always interesting. Kerrigan & Sweat aren’t viewed as LBs in any nfl fo, they’re DE’s. Who needs reality. Maybe pff is out of line with their rankings & groupings too, maybe they don’t have enough ESperts on staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Skin'emAlive Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Mike Evans plus a pick... ooooo. Ok, now we talking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxSpearheadxX Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 @volsmet http://imgur.com/a/bu5C1gg [/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakedtater1 Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Id **** if we got hill ..even evans.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malapropismic Depository Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Who wants to bet me that if we trade for Evans, that Doctson doesn't make the team ? 😄 It does kinda sound like Tampa might be shopping for some OL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 5 hours ago, Cooleyfan1993 said: Oh good lord....there’s a rumor that redskins and Vikings are finalizing a deal to send Trent to them in exchange for Stefon diggs and a pick (@NFL_Trade_News on Twitter reported this rumor....i doubt this is true 😂 Trent for Diggs and Reiff has been my ideal trade all along. But I didn't start the rumor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LetThePointsSoar Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Would love if any of these trade rumors finally materialize. Pull the trigger, Bruce. Don't drag this deal out any longer and end up with zero in return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 1 hour ago, LetThePointsSoar said: Would love if any of these trade rumors finally materialize. Pull the trigger, Bruce. Don't drag this deal out any longer and end up with zero in return. Yep negotiation skills I don't think is Bruce's forte. Ditto trades aside from moving up and down in the draft. Prove me wrong Bruce. I don't mind it dragging out until now. This coming week is about the time frame that I considered makes sense. But don't IMO drag it until the season, too risky I think. 😀 One of the rumors I saw on twitter the other day (thought I think it was just from some blog fan type was Trent for AJ Green. I hope not. But it would fit the win now drill. The post below, that dude has 100,000 followers, so I take him a little seriously. Texans trading a receiver? I saw some Redskins fans hyping Hopkins on twitter but to me no way they trade him. He's arguably the best receiver in the NFL. I wouldn't trade Hopkins if I were them and definitely not for Trent. Maybe Will Fuller. And I wouldn't make that trade if I were the Redskins. Get some picks. Can we deputize @volsemt so he can make a deal with Chris Cooper? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benskins26 Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Do the Browns have any assets? As someone else pointed out they only have a handful of draft picks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 2020 Team Transactions Round 1 Browns Round 2 Browns Round 3 Browns Texans Browns (conditional if Johnson is active for 10 games in 2019) PICK WOULD NOT TRANSFER BECAUSE JOHNSON HAS NOT BEEN ACTIVE FOR 10 GAMES IN 2019 Traded • Duke Johnson to Texans for • 2020 conditional round pick (third round if Johnson is active for 10 games in 2019, else fourth round) (?-?) on 2019-08-08 Round 4 Browns Texans Browns (conditional if Johnson is active for fewer than 10 games in 2019) PICK WOULD TRANSFER BECAUSE JOHNSON HAS NOT BEEN ACTIVE FOR 10 GAMES IN 2019 Traded • Duke Johnson to Texans for • 2020 conditional round pick (third round if Johnson is active for 10 games in 2019, else fourth round) (?-?) on 2019-08-08 Round 5 Browns Round 6 Browns Cardinals Browns Traded • Jamar Taylor to Cardinals for • 2020 sixth round pick (?-?) on 2018-05-18 Round 7 Bills Browns Traded • Corey Coleman to Bills for • 2020 seventh round pick (?-?) on 2018-08-05 Browns https://www.prosportstransactions.com/football/DraftTrades/Future/Browns.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Yeah, the Bucs O-Line was completely abysmal last night. OJ Howard and a 2nd, maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxSpearheadxX Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 42 minutes ago, TryTheBeal! said: Yeah, the Bucs O-Line was completely abysmal last night. OJ Howard and a 2nd, maybe? ooh a young stud TE is just what the doctor ordered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakedtater1 Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, XxSpearheadxX said: ooh a young stud TE is just what the doctor ordered Would it be to replace Jordan Reed? OJ Howard is a beast isn't he?... I sure wish Jordan Reed had a helmet that wasn't painted with a target on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 28 minutes ago, XxSpearheadxX said: ooh a young stud TE is just what the doctor ordered Agree but I think zero chance Tampa trades Howard. They got blocking issues and they trade one of the best blocking TE's in the league in his prime? Be awesome but I doubt it. I can see Evans though on the trading block. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakedtater1 Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 I predict t Williams for Mike Evans and a 2.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Tunsil on the trading block in theory would dilute Trent's value some. that would mean 2 LT's on the block, one who is 31 and the other 25. I am guessing there has to be something cooking with Tunsil because he's a good young player in his prime -- they are worried about him and weed again or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakedtater1 Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Hopkins ain't going anywhere my very long time best friend(huge phins fan)says the rumors of tunsil being shopped is poop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 27 minutes ago, bakedtater1 said: Hopkins ain't going anywhere my very long time best friend(huge phins fan)says the rumors of tunsil being shopped is poop Not sure though how a fan would know. I am in South Florida I know their sports writers writings fairly well -- Omar Kelly from the Sentinel is reliable typically I'll track him. It would make their interest in Trent supposedly from awhile back make a little more sense. But it still seems weird for them to want to deal him unless there is something about Tunsil they don't trust. And I continually read about how obsessed the owner is with getting Tua so maybe they want to continue to add draft capital to make that easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakedtater1 Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 4 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said: Not sure though how a fan would know. I am in South Florida I know their sports writers writings fairly well -- Omar Kelly from the Sentinel is reliable typically I'll track him. It would make their interest in Trent supposedly from awhile back make a little more sense. But it still seems weird for them to want to deal him unless there is something about Tunsil they don't trust. And I continually read about how obsessed the owner is with getting Tua so maybe they want to continue to add draft capital to make that easy. Completely 100% agree with you as I sent that post in it hit me that it might look like I'm trying to say my friend is an Insider LOL and he's just a goofball Idahoan from Florida like me except for me I'm not from Florida lol.. I told him not to hold his hand over his ass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 This guy covers the dolphins for SB nation. The guaranteed money part throws me off though if they are interested in Trent. Yeah Trent doesn't have much guaranteed money left but if you are trading for him I presume you intend to pay him, guaranteed money or not Current Contract Laremy Tunsil signed a 4 year, $12,457,650 contract with the Miami Dolphins, including a $7,260,109 signing bonus, $12,457,650 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $3,114,413. In 2019, Tunsil will earn a base salary of $2,148,770, while carrying a cap hit of $3,963,798 and a dead cap value of $3,963,798. CONTRACT TERMS:4 yr(s) / $12,457,650 SIGNING BONUS$7,260,109 AVERAGE SALARY$3,114,413 GTD AT SIGN:$12,457,650 TOTAL GTD:$12,457,650 FREE AGENT:2021 / UFA BONUS BREAKDOWN CAP DETAILS CASH DETAILS YEAR AGE BASE SALARY SIGNING CAP HIT DEAD CAP YEARLY CASH 2016 22 $450,000 $1,815,027 $2,265,027 $12,007,650 $7,710,109($7,710,109) 2017 23 $1,016,257 $1,815,027 $2,831,284 $10,192,623 $1,016,257($8,726,366) 2018 24 $1,582,514 $1,815,027 $3,397,541 $7,361,339 $1,582,514($10,308,880) 2019 25 $2,148,770 $1,815,028 $3,963,798 $3,963,798 $2,148,770($12,457,650) 2020 26 $10,350,000 - $10,350,000 - $10,350,000($22,807,650) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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