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2019 Comprehensive Draft Thread

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13 minutes ago, Bonez3 said:

Crowder and Smith absolutely did NOT deserve a second contract. The 2015 draft was good, 2016 below average 

 

Not sure you can say that. It was nto good or great but it was not below average either. I would call it average to slightly above average. Iaonnidis just got a 2nd contract and has really produced. If he can stay healthy he will have a lasting impact. Kendall Fuller was an excellent player but dumb ass Bruce traded him. And the story on Josh is not written yet - although admittedly it is very close. he needs to do something this year. The Cravens pick was terrible. That was probably the worst pick in Scot's time here. The guy had red flags all over the place and he took him anyway. The others at the end - hard to get too excited about 5th - 7th rd picks not panning out. It is what makes a draft Ok to good or very good - when you hit a player or two from the back part of the draft.   

 

The bigger issue with calling that draft below average is it ignores they picked up 3 draft picks for 2017 - 4th, 5th, and 6th. They were looking forward and attempting to accumulate draft picks - and they did. You have to include that in the equation. So they drafted a starter that received a second contract and another solid starter and also netted 3 draft picks for the next season. Again, just like 2015, not great but not bad either. Hard to call that below average. 

 

Now, they did not use those 3 draft picks in 2017 very well as it turns out. But that has to go against the 2017 draft, not the 2016 draft. 

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The elite player in the back 4 we need:

 

 

Diggs stumbles giving up that first TD, but that speed in chasing down DK, followed by the play on the next deep ball, show extraordinary traits... traits we need. 

 

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Possible lb partner for Reuben, the freak Dylan Moses:

 

Or, the beast, Daniel Bituli.

 

 

The most versatile prospect in the draft, perhaps my favorite defensive player in college football, the perfect defensive prospect for the new age of nfl football, Mr. Brooks ... 

 

 

 

 

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The pass rush class of 2020 is pure insanity.

 

Matos & Kareem:

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Speed option for Haskins, Jalen Reagor:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, volsmet said:

Speed option for Haskins, Jalen Reagor

 

 

 

 

That reminds me of Santana Moss.  He was always great at those types of routes. 

 

I feel pretty confident about our ability to get a quality Speedster in the first 2 rounds.  2020 WR draft class is staaaacked with speed.  Really good class to trade back and still pick up someone with serious speed.

 

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Higgins is so smooth. 

 

QB, WR, OT, Edge, CB & perhaps even RB - loaded in 2020.

 

 

Johnson, incredible.

 

 

Shenault, silliness.

 

 

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So Rotoworlds Hayden Winks did a valuation of the draft day trades but thinks future picks have same value as current picks (ie gives value of a 2d in the future the same the same as a 2d this year). Really don't get that way of thinking and can't think of any team that would or did.  (Obviously that means every team that gave up future draft capital lost the trade in his book).

 

https://www.rotoworld.com/article/evaluations/nfl-draft-trade-rankings

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One of the guys i wanted, touted.  😧

 

https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/05/13/vikings-cap-space-kyle-rudolph-browns-odell-beckham-jr-rookie-minicamps-dahale-warring-drew-sample?utm_campaign=themmqb&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&__twitter_impression=true

Speaking of tight ends, another guy who stood out at rookie minicamp was Cincinnati second-round pick Drew Sample. Tight end is an important position in the Bengals’ offense, so it would be huge in Zac Taylor’s first year if the team nailed that pick. The staff sees Sample, an outstanding blocker with good receiver skills, playing the role as the traditional ‘Y’ tight end, the same role that Tyler Higbee did in that offense for the Rams.

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32 minutes ago, nonniey said:

These are cuts from events in the Colts draft room including during their 1st round pick.  Surprisingly quite and little discussion on the trade offer from the Redskins before accepting it. 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5QNhKYq8WU&feature=player_embedded

 

Anyone know if the Redskins put something like this out.

That trade value for us still staggers me. We got them on that one.

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6 hours ago, nonniey said:

These are cuts from events in the Colts draft room including during their 1st round pick.  Surprisingly quiet and little discussion on the trade offer from the Redskins before accepting it. 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5QNhKYq8WU&feature=player_embedded

 

Anyone know if the Redskins put something like this out?

 

There probably isn't much discussion before pulling the trigger because they had already talked potential terms earlier. That happens a ton, sometimes even in the week leading up to the draft. 

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On 5/13/2019 at 8:19 PM, Skinsinparadise said:

One of the guys i wanted, touted.  😧

 

https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/05/13/vikings-cap-space-kyle-rudolph-browns-odell-beckham-jr-rookie-minicamps-dahale-warring-drew-sample?utm_campaign=themmqb&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&__twitter_impression=true

Speaking of tight ends, another guy who stood out at rookie minicamp was Cincinnati second-round pick Drew Sample. Tight end is an important position in the Bengals’ offense, so it would be huge in Zac Taylor’s first year if the team nailed that pick. The staff sees Sample, an outstanding blocker with good receiver skills, playing the role as the traditional ‘Y’ tight end, the same role that Tyler Higbee did in that offense for the Rams.

 

Are there any good prospects in the 2019 Supplemental Draft ?

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