tshile Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 46 minutes ago, mistertim said: You present yourself as if you know so much about a topic because you read a few pages online or watched a youtube video Professors warn against this type of person Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 And see @CousinsCowgirl84the "IT bro" **** is exactly what I'm talking about. I'm not an "IT bro". I'm a network and datacenter architect with over 20 years of experience in designing and building for many large service providers. I have direct experience in designing and engineering many technologies including satellite broadband. Yet because I said something you didn't like about Musk and pointed out things that you didn't like or agree with, you choose to demean and minimize my career and expertise. I really hope you don't do this sort of stuff to people in real life. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d0ublestr0ker0ll Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, mistertim said: And see @CousinsCowgirl84the "IT bro" **** is exactly what I'm talking about. I'm not an "IT bro". I'm a network and datacenter architect with over 20 years of experience in designing and building for many large service providers. I have direct experience in designing and engineering many technologies including satellite broadband. Yet because I said something you didn't like about Musk and pointed out things that you didn't like or agree with, you choose to demean and minimize my career and expertise. I really hope you don't do this sort of stuff to people in real life. Sounds like a job interview gone wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CousinsCowgirl84 Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, mistertim said: And see @CousinsCowgirl84the "IT bro" **** is exactly what I'm talking about. I'm not an "IT bro" come on I am teasing you about it now it’s an ongoing thing. I didn’t think it bothered you. 12 minutes ago, mistertim said: . I'm a network and datacenter architect with over 20 years of experience in designing and building for many large service providers. I have direct experience in designing and engineering many technologies including satellite broadband. Yet because I said something you didn't like about Musk Only when you try to say he hasn’t achieved or created anything. Or when someone makes false claims about Starlink or Autopilot. It’s obvious I’m a fan of his and I’m not ashamed of it, but I have hardly praised everything he's done or condoned everything he tweeted. He was cool with liberals UNTIL he disagreed with them on COVID. As soon has he did that he became a pariah. He didn’t fit in with their identity based politics anymore because (somewhat understandably) liberals were stuck in an Us VS Trump mentality. I remember remember when COVID first started I questioned whether the lock downs were worth it, but turns out I was wrong about that. Elon was wrong too. But ever since then (and not before) the knives have been out. Edited April 17, 2022 by CousinsCowgirl84 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsmarydu Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 20 minutes ago, mistertim said: Please cite examples of when we debated about something I have experience in and you don't (ala sat broadband, the internet, communications, etc) and I was factually incorrect and you were correct. Dammit, I was hoping you'd mention snakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CousinsCowgirl84 Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, skinsmarydu said: Dammit, I was hoping you'd mention snakes. Snakes? 🐍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 1 minute ago, CousinsCowgirl84 said: Snakes? 🐍 She's probably referring to my boa constrictor. I've posted about her in the pets thread. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CousinsCowgirl84 Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 I will not debate you about snakes. I promise. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, CousinsCowgirl84 said: I will not debate you about snakes. I promise. As long as I didn't name her "Elon Musk's A Poophead" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Genius Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 Must be nice to be this out of touch. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 To be somewhat fair, I can imagine that getting a little out of touch about money is hard not to do at that point. When you could probably find $100,000 in between the cushions of your couch and you've been that way for decades it might get harder to relate to people with regular jobs and lives. Though I'd hope that he'd think a bit about saying something like that and how it would sound before saying it publicly. Just because you're out of touch about money doesn't mean you have to make sure the world knows it and sound so out of touch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CousinsCowgirl84 Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 Anyone will be able to save up for a trip to Mars. They might have to wait till after they get there to save up for it though. In the mean time I’m sure company housing and board will be provided at an appropriate reduction in pay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corcaigh Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 If the average American cut their cable they could save that in about 20 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CousinsCowgirl84 Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 I think the average American cut their cable years ago. I know I did. Wasn’t a great deal though cause now I got HBO max Showtime Disney plus discovery plus Netflix and Amazon prime. A sucker is born every minute…. but unless I’m doing something wrong 100,000/20 = 5000/year 5000/12 = $416/mo i think my cable bill when I had it was around $150…. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Genius Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Corcaigh said: If the average American cut their cable they could save that in about 20 years. The average American is paying over $400 a month for cable? Edited April 18, 2022 by The Evil Genius 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corcaigh Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 (edited) 54 minutes ago, The Evil Genius said: The average American is paying over $400 a month for cable? Have none of you dumb ****ers heard of compounding returns? An S&P Index fund has averaged 10.3% over its history. At that rate you will take less than 20 years. Edited April 18, 2022 by Corcaigh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CousinsCowgirl84 Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, Corcaigh said: Have none of you dumb ****ers heard of compounding returns? An S&P Index fund has averaged 10.3% over its history. At that rate you will take less than 20 years. I think you are still being optimistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabbyrwock Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 37 minutes ago, Corcaigh said: Have none of you dumb ****ers heard of compounding returns? An S&P Index fund has averaged 10.3% over its history. At that rate you will take less than 20 years. Uhhh...give me a sec... ...how do you spell S&P? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Wiggles Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 Quote Elon Musk says “almost anyone” can save up $100,000 for a hypothetical ticket to Mars. “We want to make it available to anyone who wants to go.” How long's a round trip to Mars? A year? I guess if one never takes a vacation during this hypothetical 20 years of savings ones boss would totes be cool with giving them a year off to travel to Mars. Sure it'll be available for all to go. The wealthy will be the only ones able at first tho. Much like the aviation industry space travel will eventually be streamlined sos the average person can afford the cost. Probably a lot of government subsidies involved as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 2 hours ago, Captain Wiggles said: How long's a round trip to Mars? A year? I guess if one never takes a vacation during this hypothetical 20 years of savings ones boss would totes be cool with giving them a year off to travel to Mars. Sure it'll be available for all to go. The wealthy will be the only ones able at first tho. Much like the aviation industry space travel will eventually be streamlined sos the average person can afford the cost. Probably a lot of government subsidies involved as well. Aren't pretty much all hypothetical early Mars trips going to be one way? Rich people spending a bunch to go up into space and then return is one thing, but exactly how many of them are really going to be interested in paying a ****load for the privilege of going on a dangerous one way trip to a barren and desolate wasteland filled with hardship which will eventually be their final resting place as well? That's basically like paying money to move to a remote penal colony with no hope of ever being released. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CousinsCowgirl84 Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 1 minute ago, mistertim said: Aren't pretty much all hypothetical early Mars trips going to be one way? This is what Musk has said, numerous times. 1 minute ago, mistertim said: Rich people spending a bunch to go up into space and then return is one thing, but exactly how many of them are really going to be interested in paying a ****load for the privilege of going on a dangerous one way trip to a barren and desolate wasteland filled with hardship which will eventually be their final resting place as well? Well, not Elon Musk. That’s for sure. He wants to send the people to mars. The first people to Mars wont be rich billionaires. It will be explorers who want to to. Then once it becomes safe you might see some people pay to go, but I’d be surprised if that happens in my lifetime (40-50 years left) 1 minute ago, mistertim said: That's basically like paying money to move to a remote penal colony with no hope of ever being released. More akin to leaving Europe for America in the 1700s. https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-doesnt-want-to-die-going-to-mars-2016-9?amp https://www.space.com/elon-musk-mars-spacex-risks-astronauts-die 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Wiggles Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 1 minute ago, mistertim said: Aren't pretty much all hypothetical early Mars trips going to be one way? Most definitely. At some point tho I'd figure the real money for space travel companies would be in leisure travel / tourism. Probably because of all the times I seens the Total Recall. Spoiler 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CousinsCowgirl84 Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 1 minute ago, Captain Wiggles said: Most definitely. At some point tho I'd figure the real money for space travel companies would be in leisure travel / tourism. Probably because of all the times I seens the Total Recall. Reveal hidden contents or mining asteroids. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 (edited) 20 minutes ago, CousinsCowgirl84 said: More akin to leaving Europe for America in the 1700s. https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-doesnt-want-to-die-going-to-mars-2016-9?amp https://www.space.com/elon-musk-mars-spacex-risks-astronauts-die With one primary difference being that America was habitable by humans. It would be like going to America in the 1700s if American in the 1700s was a desert with no air. And many people went to America in the early days with eyes on their fortunes. Mars has no fortunes. It's a rock covered with rust. 14 minutes ago, CousinsCowgirl84 said: or mining asteroids. Yeah mining asteroids definitely has the potential to be legit, but only once the cost of travel to them and equipment to mine them becomes economically viable compared to what we could bring back from them. Transporting several hundred tons of raw ore from space to the surface of the Earth sounds like a logistical nightmare. Edited April 19, 2022 by mistertim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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