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Larry Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 2 hours ago, visionary said: Had some trouble figuring out what things people were accusing other people of, in this tweet. However, a Google on "ACLU opposes HR1" did reveal this item that seems to support part of one of the tweets. And kinda wanted to discuss it. Congress, Let’s Fix the Problems in H.R. 1 So We Can Enact the Bill’s Much-Needed Reforms Quote Members of Congress are expected to vote this week on H.R. 1, the For the People Act of 2019. There is a lot to like about the bill. . . . But, as we detail in a recent letter to Congress, there are provisions within the bill that, while well-intended, are overly broad and vague. If enacted, they would violate the First Amendment rights of American citizens and public interest organizations. Unless those provisions are fixed, we will oppose H.R. 1 and recommend that members of Congress vote against it. I think the ACLU is wrong on this one. They mention two portions of the law, and use two hypotheticals which they think the law would unfairly prohibit. One was: Quote But, as currently drafted, the DISCLOSE Act would go beyond that. It would regulate communications that merely mention a candidate for office if the election is near. It would also regulate communications that “support, promote, attack, or oppose” the election of a candidate. These standards are unclear and entirely subjective, which will lead to confusion and, ultimately, less speech. Consider, for example, a California-based organization placing an ad describing a “crisis at the Southern border” and criticizing Sen. Kamala Harris (D-Calif.) for failing to support President Trump’s efforts to build a wall. That organization might then have to disclose all of its donors that gave above a certain amount of money because the ad “opposes” Senator Harris’ positions, and, therefore, it may be found to “oppose” her election. Sorry, I think the ACLU is wrong on that one. the hypothetical ad they created mentioned a specific candidate for office, and a recommendation on whether to vote for or against said candidate. (They mentioned a second hypothetical, of a fictional group endorsing Harris for her position on the same issue.) To me, that's a campaign contribution. The purpose of the ad is to tell people to vote for or against a particular candidate. I can understand the notion that you want to allow advocacy groups to advocate for or against particular positions on particular issues. But to me, when said group gets to telling voters who to vote for or against, it's a campaign contribution. Their second problem is a portion of a law stating that when an advocacy group runs an election issue ad, the group must disclose the top 2 (or 5) donors to the organization, in the ad. (Their hypothetical in this case is to pretend that the ACLU were to run such an ad. They point out that people who donate to advocacy groups do not necessarily agree with every single position of the group, and a donor might be afraid to donate to a group like the ACLU because of fear that his name might wind up being listed as paying for an issue ad which the donor did not approve of.) And again, I think they're wrong. In the case of the ACLU (the example which they chose to use), I'm pretty sure that no one chooses to be one of the top 5 donors to the ACLU unless they agree with virtually all of the organizations. And I think we have way too big a problem with sock puppet organizations being created by billionaires (or corporations) for the sole purpose of allowing unlimited campaign contributions with funds that have been laundered by passing them through the sock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Comrade2000 Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 I think the only way the Dems retain the majority, is if a Dem wins the White House. Trump wins again, he gets his wacko House back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Koala Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 On 3/16/2019 at 2:01 AM, visionary said: 8 years, huh? That sounds nice Ms. Omar, but how do you plan to do that, exactly? Who do we support? How do we support them? I love Ms. Omar, in fact I have a crazy crush on her, but if she's on the foreign relations committee, she has a responsibility to tackle the insanely complex Syria problem more seriously than to suggest we be cheerleaders for a dead revolution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Koala said: 8 years, huh? That sounds nice Ms. Omar, but how do you plan to do that, exactly? Who do we support? How do we support them? I love Ms. Omar, in fact I have a crazy crush on her, but if she's on the foreign relations committee, she has a responsibility to tackle the insanely complex Syria problem more seriously than to suggest we be cheerleaders for a dead revolution. It was a nice nod on twitter that a lot of people involved in the revolution appreciated. Twitter isn't really the venue for hashing out policy for congresspeople though. Edited March 18, 2019 by visionary 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Cooked Crack Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Damn, AOC always on their minds. She's a socialist sleeper agent. Next they're going to be asking for her birth certificate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 4 minutes ago, Cooked Crack said: Damn, AOC always on their minds. She's a socialist sleeper agent. Next they're going to be asking for her birth certificate. "Some people allege that she has a staff, and that she prepares." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfitzo53 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 23 minutes ago, Larry said: "Some people allege that she has a staff, and that she prepares." "Also she's brown, and a woman, so she can't be intelligent." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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No Excuses Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 AOC stays living rent free in right wing nutjob swamp-fevered brains. And unlike the liberal wimps of the 80s and 90s, she makes them look dumb every time they come after her. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Comrade2000 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 (edited) mitch-mcconnell-profile-nihilist-chief I really hope this evil man, somehow loses next year. Edited March 22, 2019 by Rdskns2000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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