Hail Em Up Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 As the Redskins continue to add names to their list of potential head-coaching candidates, the guy who is now running the show in D.C. seems to be missing the most obvious one. Especially as the Redskins reportedly prepare to go to Charlotte to interview defensive coordinator Sean McDermott. While in the building, why not also talk to Panthers offensive coordinator Mike Shula? In only one year running the offense in Carolina, where the head coach is a defensive specialist, Shula has managed to get the most out of quarterback Cam Newton, from both a production and maturity standpoint. As coach Ron Rivera told PFT Live last month, it was Shula who decided during a slow start to the season to scour over all of Newton’s plays while at Auburn in search of concepts and plays that may work. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/01/03/redskins-should-be-talking-to-mike-shula/ The article makes some pretty good points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo-toni Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Allen's son hiring Shula's son...oh, the irony. I'd definitely take him over that fraud McDermott. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeluCopter29 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Allen's son hiring Shula's son...oh, the irony. I'd definitely take him over that fraud McDermott. Can we stop with the name calling on this board? For christs sake we sound like children sometimes... I do agree that getting an offensive coordinator who has experience with a big armed runner like Griffin would be ideal. The most important thing we need is someone who can instill discipline into this team though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thirtyfive2seven Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Can we stop with the name calling on this board? For christs sake we sound like children sometimes... I do agree that getting an offensive coordinator who has experience with a big armed runner like Griffin would be ideal. The most important thing we need is someone who can instill discipline into this team though. The people in charge of this whole process know what they're doing (I hope). Let's just sit back and enjoy the show As for discipline I completely agree. It seems the Redskins lose most of their games due to major mental lapses such as an offside penalty on 3rd and goal from the 2 becomes more difficult. Or a hold on our own 15 yard line. Blown coverages, etc etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamebreaker Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 I made this suggestion for a some friends of mine, as well as Saints OC Carmichael. My reasons for at least giving Shula an interview was due to the work he'd done in getting Newton back on track after a disastrous second season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernie5 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Why is McDermott a fraud again? Was Sean Payton a fraud when he interviewed for the New Orleans job? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justice98 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 The problem with some of these hires, is they may be about their Xs and Os, but can they lead a football team. That question is seemingly never brought up when names are bandied about. It's the Norv syndrome, where they're good coordinators, but they don't need to ever be a HC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dukes and Skins Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 The problem with some of these hires, is they may be about their Xs and Os, but can they lead a football team. That question is seemingly never brought up when names are bandied about. It's the Norv syndrome, where they're good coordinators, but they don't need to ever be a HC. With a GM who's placed a huge emphasis on them being a leader, I don't think we'll need to worry about that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HtownRocks111 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 The problem with some of these hires, is they may be about their Xs and Os, but can they lead a football team. That question is seemingly never brought up when names are bandied about. It's the Norv syndrome, where they're good coordinators, but they don't need to ever be a HC. I'm not sure you ever know this for sure until 4 years after they're hired. Which is why I'm not so keen on hiring someone whos never been a HC before. However if I was to hire one it would be Bevelle from Seattle because just looking at what he's been able to do with Russel Wilson and that offense considering they don't seem to have a weapon of Garcon's talent (Harvin, if ever healthy). With $36m to give out in FA, all of our draft picks this year except our first one and our entire slate of picks for next year as well, in 2 years this team could be a NFC conference game participant for years to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamebreaker Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Why is McDermott a fraud again? Was Sean Payton a fraud when he interviewed for the New Orleans job? People feel McDermott had been overridden by Rivera, facing termination if he had another poor season, and the great defense we saw from Carolina had little to do with McDermott's abilities as a coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernie5 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 People feel McDermott had been overridden by Rivera, facing termination if he had another poor season, and the great defense we saw from Carolina had little to do with McDermott's abilities as a coach. Understood, but Payton actually had his playcalling duties taken away by Fassel when he was with the Giants. Also, McDermott inherited a difficult situation when Jim Johnson was dying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grego Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Allen's son hiring Shula's son...oh, the irony. I'd definitely take him over that fraud McDermott. agreed. not sure what im missing with mcdermott. i'd take zimmer over him. but, ya, i like shulas resume- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Shula On January 25, 2007, the Jacksonville Jaguars named Shula their quarterbacks coach.[12] Shula oversaw quarterback David Garrard’s development from becoming a full-time starter in 2007 to making the Pro Bowl in 2009. In Shula’s first year with the Jaguars, Garrard ranked third in the NFL with a 102.2 passer rating – an almost 23-point improvement from the previous season – threw an NFL-low three interceptions and established a team record with a 64.0 completion percentage. On January 21, 2011 the Carolina Panthers named Shula as their quarterbacks coach. In 2011, Shula helped quarterback Cam Newton earn Associated Press Offensive Rookie of the Year after turning in one of the most prolific rookie seasons in NFL history, passing for 4,051 yards and accounting for 35 total touchdowns. In 2012, under Shula's tutelage, Newton improved on his Rookie-of-the-Year quarterback rating from 2011 with an 86.2 mark while rushing for more than 700 yards for a second straight season. Newton's 7,920 passing yards from 2011-12 surpassed the previous mark for a player’s first two seasons held by Peyton Manning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddub52 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Can we stop with the name calling on this board? For christs sake we sound like children sometimes... Are you calling me a child? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConcordNCSkinsFan Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Basically what Florio is saying is to get the coach who is now coaching another Black, Athletic QB unfairly labeled as immature when he was in his 2nd year because of narrow minded perceptions. OK got it. I wish I could have sat around and built a website throwing around rumors for years and turn it into a career masquerading as an NFL insider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovetoaster Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 He was under serious fire last year here in Charlotte and fans were generally upset when he was elevated to OC this year. Their record has obviously been good this year, but that is largely on the shoulders of the defense. Living in Charlotte, I see and hear a lot about the Panthers and their offense has really sputtered this year at times. On the year, their total offense ranks 26th in the league, while their passing offense is 29th. Their rushing offense is much better at 11th in the league. I have no idea how good he would be as a leader, but watching the performance of their offense and hearing how displeased people have been at times does not exactly get me excited for him to be a head coach candidate here. Honestly, the majority of people would probably be pretty pleased for him to leave the coaching staff in Charlotte. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Adama Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Are you calling me a child? Why yes, yes he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConcordNCSkinsFan Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 He was under serious fire last year here in Charlotte and fans were generally upset when he was elevated to OC this year. Their record has obviously been good this year, but that is largely on the shoulders of the defense. Living in Charlotte, I see and hear a lot about the Panthers and their offense has really sputtered this year at times. On the year, their total offense ranks 26th in the league, while their passing offense is 29th. Their rushing offense is much better at 11th in the league. I have no idea how good he would be as a leader, but watching the performance of their offense and hearing how displeased people have been at times does not exactly get me excited for him to be a head coach candidate here. Honestly, the majority of people would probably be pretty pleased for him to leave the coaching staff in Charlotte. Yeah I guess we know the real deal living down here is much different than the perception National media guys like Florio have. I always think that you could have tuned into WFNZ at this time last year and the same things were being said about Cam as what's being said about RG3 now. Then presto the Panthers put a monster D around Cam, give him a chance to make some plays late in games and all the sudden the Panthers are 12-4 and everyone thinks Mike Shula waved some magic wand to help improve Cam';s game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovetoaster Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Yeah I guess we know the real deal living down here is much different than the perception National media guys like Florio have. I always think that you could have tuned into WFNZ at this time last year and the same things were being said about Cam as what's being said about RG3 now. Then presto the Panthers put a monster D around Cam, give him a chance to make some plays late in games and all the sudden the Panthers are 12-4 and everyone thinks Mike Shula waved some magic wand to help improve Cam';s game. Yep. Cam, Shula and Chudzinski were all getting crushed a year ago around here, and Shula still does pretty often. Chud went to the Browns and people were irate that they gave Shula the reins to the offense. And while I watch every Skins game, I also watch a lot of Panthers games as well...just because they are on. Their offense has not been good this year at all. While I don't like him, Cam has made some plays at big times this year. But that may have more to do with him maturing a little than anything that Shula has done. Who knows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grego Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Living in Charlotte, I see and hear a lot about the Panthers and their offense has really sputtered this year at times. On the year, their total offense ranks 26th in the league, while their passing offense is 29th. Their rushing offense is much better at 11th in the league. dammit. well, maybe shula isnt that great. kind of why i'm not big on bevell- you look at some numbers, and are impressed. you look at the overall numbers, and its less impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovetoaster Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 dammit. well, maybe shula isnt that great. kind of why i'm not big on bevell- you look at some numbers, and are impressed. you look at the overall numbers, and its less impressive. Yeah, there are some similarities between Shula and Bevell this year, but Seattle's offensive numbers are much better. Also, there is a much better track record with Bevell with other teams than Shula, in my opinion. But to be fair, it is not all about the numbers; being a head coach requires a different skill set than a coordinator or a position coach. But I don't see much or hear much about Shula that would inspire me about having him as our HC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddub52 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Why yes, yes he is. irony?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEANDWARF Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 I made this suggestion for a some friends of mine, as well as Saints OC Carmichael. My reasons for at least giving Shula an interview was due to the work he'd done in getting Newton back on track after a disastrous second season. Yeah but when Payton was suspended, the Saints went south. Now in Carmichael's defense, their Dee was ranked 32nd in the league without Williams. Carmichael may deserve a look-see. With a GM who's placed a huge emphasis on them being a leader, I don't think we'll need to worry about that Hope you're right. Getting back to Shula, wasn't he the HC for the Bengals in the 90s where they were simply rotten? Or was that another Shula? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrelgreenie Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Mike Shula is a good OC right now but I don't think he's there yet. Maybe he will be a better HC then OC? And its ironic that he is being given credit for getting back to Auburn's playbook when he was the one that chose to get away from it in the first place. And is the offense really playing better now? Or is the defense better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJD2 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Yeah but when Payton was suspended, the Saints went south. Now in Carmichael's defense, their Dee was ranked 32nd in the league without Williams. Carmichael may deserve a look-see. Hope you're right. Getting back to Shula, wasn't he the HC for the Bengals in the 90s where they were simply rotten? Or was that another Shula? I think that was maybe David Shula ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovetoaster Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 I think that was maybe David Shula ?? Yeah, that was Dave Shula Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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