Who should the Redskins cut this offseason?

[VABlitz]

As much as I like the big man, Orakpo, he is injury prone and seems to not be able to break blocks\holds.  I always see him with an arm around his throat or in a half nelson.  Do other big time Pass Rushers get stopped by one man?  

Not saying I don't want him back, but he will cost a pretty penny, and is he really worth that?

[VABlitz]

All that being said here is my list of keepers, which jives with other forum members lists.

 

RG3

Alfred Morris

Ryan Kerrigan

Pierre Garcon

Nick Williams

Kobra Kai Forbath

Jordan Reed

Trent Williams

Amerson

Hall, but not as a #1 CB

Orakpo, if not too expensive

Cousins, unless we can get a good offer for him, but if traded we need a reliable backup.  I'm still kind of worried on RG3's longevity in this league.  

[nemocystem]

I think a better question is who shouldn't we cut.

RGIII, Kerrigan, Williams, Montgomery, Garçon, Nick Williams, Hankerson, Jenkins, Reed, Morris, Helu, Riley, Hall, Amerson, Cofield.....that's it. Everyone else is fair game.

I'm coming around to the idea that we toss it all out, hire a GM, let him bring in his own guys & start with this core. We have high picks this year...you could maybe even trade an asset or two who might not fit our next system/s to move into a first rounder or just add more picks. ...

We may very well suck for 2 or 3 more years...but hold onto our picks, save a bunch of that cap money, & keep adding youth in development to coach up & fill depth. Then when we've garnered a few key play makers via the Draft & filled out the back end of our roster we can go into F/A when the right players are available & finish the job.

I know...make it sound so easy. I guess I'm just saying that I'm all for a COMPLETE rebuild at this point. I'm of little faith that this roster can be turned around with cap money -a #1 pick.

[MrJL]

we might not have to cut that many people considering we've got like 20 free agents this year.  Most of the defense seems to be free agents.  We don't need to release any DBs, because they're all FAs.

 

On the DL Carriker is a definite.  Maybe Bowen and Golston.  Golston is just a rotation guy and they can find  a cheaper one.

 

On offense it's harder to say.  Paul is one of our few decent special teamers so you don't just want to let him go.  On the O-line Chester should be gone.  Maybe Polumbus.  But he could also compete to be our backup swing tackle.  All the other guys play multiple positions or have never shown what they can actually do or both so how do you just decide to cut them?  You know what amazes me?  Shanny signed JD Walton from waivers for next year.  He's a UFA after this year.  Brilliant.

 

I'd let Chris Thompson and Evan Royster go.  We've got enough RBs and Davin Meggett can try to be our scatback.  

[redskindan07]

Morgan & Moss should be gone!

[skins island connection]

 I'm not really sold on Stankerson  holding a roster spot. He just doesn't have the focus, and he's had more than enough time to progress, but unless he's wide open, he cannot be depended on to make the crucial clutch catches.

[MrJL]

Morgan & Moss should be gone!

 

both will be FAs

[andy614]

The list would be shorter if you asked who the Redskins should keep.

[RG3theMVP]

Players who get CUT: (not counting guys we've added due to injuries)

 

Carriker, Chester, Montgomerty, Polumbus, Golston, Rocca

 

I think Bowen stays because of his cap hit.

[KingDinka]

Any one who wants to follow shanny at the door.

[zoony]

As for starters, here is my list

Sav Rocca

Chris Chester

Josh Wilson

Stephen Bowen

Santana Moss

Joshua Morgan

and Josh Leribus just because he has no business being a professional football player

I would like for us to franchise Orakpo and try to get something, anything for him in trade

[MrJL]

As for starters, here is my list

Sav Rocca

Chris Chester

Josh Wilson

Stephen Bowen

Santana Moss

Joshua Morgan

and Josh Leribus just because he has no business being a professional football player

I would like for us to franchise Orakpo and try to get something, anything for him in trade

 

 

am I the only one who checks our free agency list?  Wilson, Moss and Morgan are all going to be free agents.  They don't need to be cut

[BraveWarrior]

I think it's going to depend on who the coach/coordinators are and what they decide to run. On offense, I'd like to see us get bigger on the line, meaning anybody except T. William is expendable.

 

On defense, if we stay in a 3-4, then we'd probably want to consider keeping Carriker. He's a talent at end (when healthy) in the 3-4, and Jenkins hasn't shown a whole lot so far. Personally, I'd like to see us go back to a 4-3, and put Orakpo's hand in the dirt rushing the passer as much as possible from the end position. I think Haslett has misused him and should have kept him as a pass rushing ace rather than dropping back in coverage too often. Cofield and Baker could be a mountain of a def. tackle duo.

[redskin01fan]

I say resign Orakpo, Hall, and Riley Jr. Then go get Jarius Bird and Aquib Talib. And any decent wide receivers who can help Garçon.

[aqq]

i think its also time to cut Merriweather.

[Mad Mike]

Can I nominate members of this board? 

[Yeen80]

i think its also time to cut Merriweather.

 

Wrong

[Ozymandias]

Umm, Sav Rocca please.

[Mad Mike]

On a serious note, the entire premiss of this thread is flawed and shows the complete disconnect from reality that fans have.

 

You don't simply cut players unless they are a locker room problem or have some serious issues. You bring in talent in the hope that your lesser players are bumped down by better ones. Those players who are bumped down, in turn may bump someone else down to third string and in that way you gain depth.

 

Simply cutting people is a foolish way to try to get better if in the end the best replacement you find turns out to be no better or even worse than the guy you cut and you haven't addressed your depth at all.

 

And BTW... we have THE WORST DEPTH in the NFL. Period. 

 

But hey... all you drama queens need something to talk about so by all means, ignore me and continue the circle jerk.

[Skins Wingman]

 

You don't simply cut players unless they are a locker room problem or have some serious issues.

what about players who are overpaid?

You bring in talent in the hope that your lesser players are bumped down by better ones.

talent costs money and you can't free up money without cutting players.

im not sure where you are going with this post. you dont pay people like bowen and carriker starter money just to sit on the bench. joshua morgan is a perfect example of this. he is severely overpaid based on his production. eventually got benched. so your theory is, keep paying him to sit on the bench, and bring in a big named wr who is going to have a bigger contract. sure it would be nice to bring in calvin johnson and brandon marshall and bump garcon down to 3rd string. then we'd have depth right? no team can afford that. with the salary cap, sacrifices have to be made at every position.

if you don't live up to your contract, you get cut. there's always young hungry players who are willing to take your spot.

[RandyHolt]

So it appears everyone is fine with the short kickoffs we get with Kai. Well, everyone except me.

 

Do you want a roster spot committed to a kickoff specialist, summon Steve Cox Jr?

 

Do you feel he can correct that, or is it a non issue, that kickers are so rare, that we don't dare consider upgrading at K.

 

I felt he may have gotten injured, trying to correct that.

 

For good kickers being rare, it seems I see many ex redskins kickers around the league.

[Garcon More Wine]

on offense, guys who should not be here are:

 

Josh Morgan

Chris Chester

Tyler Polumbus

Korey Lichtenstieger

Evan Royster

Santana Moss

Rex Grossman

Josh Lereibus

Will Montgomry (on the bubble for me)

 

 

on defense, guys who should not be here

 

Kedric Golston

London Fletcher

Nick Barnett

Adam Carriker

Josh Wilson

Tanard Jackson

Stephen Bowen

EJ Biggers (unless he stops playing safety)

 

on ST, guys who should not be here:

 

everyone lol

Kai Forbath

Sav Rocca

[aqq]

 

what about players who are overpaid?

talent costs money and you can't free up money without cutting players.

im not sure where you are going with this post. you dont pay people like bowen and carriker starter money just to sit on the bench. joshua morgan is a perfect example of this. he is severely overpaid based on his production. eventually got benched. so your theory is, keep paying him to sit on the bench, and bring in a big named wr who is going to have a bigger contract. sure it would be nice to bring in calvin johnson and brandon marshall and bump garcon down to 3rd string. then we'd have depth right? no team can afford that. with the salary cap, sacrifices have to be made at every position.

if you don't live up to your contract, you get cut. there's always young hungry players who are willing to take your spot.

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Thank you for correcting Mad Mike. Im not sure what he is talking about either. Teams always cut underperforming players with big contracts. It helps for now and the future.

[Mad Mike]

 

what about players who are overpaid?

talent costs money and you can't free up money without cutting players.

im not sure where you are going with this post. you dont pay people like bowen and carriker starter money just to sit on the bench. joshua morgan is a perfect example of this. he is severely overpaid based on his production. eventually got benched. so your theory is, keep paying him to sit on the bench, and bring in a big named wr who is going to have a bigger contract. sure it would be nice to bring in calvin johnson and brandon marshall and bump garcon down to 3rd string. then we'd have depth right? no team can afford that. with the salary cap, sacrifices have to be made at every position.

if you don't live up to your contract, you get cut. there's always young hungry players who are willing to take your spot.

 

Except most over paid players have a good portion of their pay as signing bonuses that must be paid even if cut before the beginning of the season. And people in this thread aren't talking about over paid players. Most of the "cut list" players here are cheep. They just want to cut players who they are personally disappointed with. The tread should be re-named... call it the "who do you want revenge on for disappointing you" thread.

 

 

Again. There are exceptions for specific cases but my point stands that this fantasy thread about cutting players really has no basis in reality.  A guy like Josh Lereibus is young, under contract with bonuses that would have to be paid, and still developing. You don't cut him. You bring in more talent to compete and cut the guy UNDER HIM.

 

YOU BUILD GREAT TEAMS BY UPGRADING TALENT ON EVERY LEVEL. And the best way to do that is to bring in better players who push lesser players down the depth chart.

 

And BTW... I love how suddenly the cap is so important. Shanahan has had to deal with HUGE chunks of cap space unavailable to him since he got here but that was not an issue to the haters. They wouldn't even consider that it was part of the problem. Now suddenly we have to cut everyone because we need the cap space so bad now that we are getting 36 million more than we had before.

[pjfootballer]

Can I nominate members of this board? 

I was looking for this post.  If it wasn't in here, I would have said the same thing. Kudos. I have a list of about 100 and growing daily.