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Refs have to be more cognizant of sly **** like that.

Delladova did the same to Taj last round

Youd think itd be just as, or even more obvious 5 feet away from them as it is on tv.

**** it. Hire an extra ref on the sideline monitor that only calls out flops.

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This Rockets team is a LOT better than the team that the Warriors rolled 4 times in the regular season. The whole team was so composed, and Harden was unreal.

(I'm a Dubs fan but like I keep saying, Harden got my MVP vote)

It's going to be a hell of a series.

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The Knicks are dangling the #4 overall pick apparently.  Wonder what they could realistically get in return for it?

 

I don't think the Knicks understand that they're awful, that they wasted Carmelo's prime, that they're not going to trick high quality FAs into coming there, and that getting the 4th pick in a 4 player class is the best long term team building asset that they're going to get.  Remember, either Toronto or Denver is getting their pick next year.  If Toronto makes the playoffs again, the Knicks will draft outside the lottery.

 

For purely money reasons, the Carmelo extensjon made sense for both the Knicks and Carmelo.  pure basketball reasons, that deal was so stupid for both sides.  New York has no realistic way to build a contender during what remains of Carmelo's window.  If I'm them I cut bait on the Melo era now, while he's still barely considered a high end superstar.  I offer Carmelo and whatever else it takes to the Lakers for #2 and just hit the reset button with Jahlil Okafor and Deangelo Russell.

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The Knicks are dangling the #4 overall pick apparently.  Wonder what they could realistically get in return for it?

 

I don't think the Knicks understand that they're awful, that they wasted Carmelo's prime, that they're not going to trick high quality FAs into coming there, and that getting the 4th pick in a 4 player class is the best long term team building asset that they're going to get.  Remember, either Toronto or Denver is getting their pick next year.  If Toronto makes the playoffs again, the Knicks will draft outside the lottery.

 

For purely money reasons, the Carmelo extensjon made sense for both the Knicks and Carmelo.  pure basketball reasons, that deal was so stupid for both sides.  New York has no realistic way to build a contender during what remains of Carmelo's window.  If I'm them I cut bait on the Melo era now, while he's still barely considered a high end superstar.  I offer Carmelo and whatever else it takes to the Lakers for #2 and just hit the reset button with Jahlil Okafor and Deangelo Russell.

 

Melo has to waive his NTC to be moved.  I knew as soon as the ink dried on that extension that it was a horrible b-ball decision.  He's going to be 32 this season and there is good reason to believe that his body is starting to break down. 

 

If Melo is REALLY about trying to win, he'll waive his NTC and get himself in a better situation.  This would of course benefit the Knicks in the long run because they'll have a nice return.  They will have cap space and young players.  Something that has been void of this franchise for close to a decade.  Knicks should really embrace the tank like the 76ers, because we're going to see them have a nice trio in a few years with Embiid, Noel, and probably Russell. 

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Melo has to waive his NTC to be moved.  I knew as soon as the ink dried on that extension that it was a horrible b-ball decision.  He's going to be 32 this season and there is good reason to believe that his body is starting to break down. 

 

If Melo is REALLY about trying to win, he'll waive his NTC and get himself in a better situation.  This would of course benefit the Knicks in the long run because they'll have a nice return.  They will have cap space and young players.  Something that has been void of this franchise for close to a decade.  Knicks should really embrace the tank like the 76ers, because we're going to see them have a nice trio in a few years with Embiid, Noel, and probably Russell. 

 

See, I think Philly is totally screwed. All that for the #3 pick. And they are going to be fielding the equivalent of a college team next year. No NBA team can develop 10 young players at once, but Philly is going to have to do so.

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Actually, I wonder if the 76ers will pick Russell for themselves?  BTW, it's actually a good thing for Philly they ended up drafting third.  They would have been in the unpalatable position of having to pass over at least one of the consensus top two players or having to draft another center.

 

Philly needs a PG and Mudiay has the highest upside of any of the perimeter players in the class.  But he can't shoot for **** and Philly has an awful lack of shooting already.

 

Mudiay is a terrible fit for the triangle offense too.  He's a playmaking PG that needs the ball in his hands and he's pretty close to being a nonshooter.

 

I don't think Philly can go wrong with either Russell or Mudiay.  If it's Mudiay, then they are going to need to build like the Wizards did and add pure shooters at SG and SF.  Mudiay is going to dominate the ball so you can go with wings who can't dribble.  It makes the building process easier in some ways, but also a lot more specialized.

 

The Knicks need Philly to choose Mudiay though.  If I'm Philly and I prefer Mudiay, I think I try and get New York to give me something in a pick swap.

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I see Mudiay's ceiling as something like a 6'5, 200 pound Rajon Rondo or Dennis Schroeder.  A rich man's MCW--19 instead of 22 as a rookie (an enormous difference), and a better scorer.  Or a poor man's John Wall.  Doesn't have Wall's top end speed or explosiveness and he's a much worse shooter.  But still man, that's a potential All Star PG that can make everyone else on your roster look like competent offensive players whether or not they have any ability to create a shot whatsoever.  Plus he has elite defensive potential.

 

It's going to be fascinating to see whether Philly chooses him or Deangelo Russell.  I think the two players are about even, but Mudiay certainly has higher upside since he's such a better athlete.  And I feel like you have to swing for upside when you pick this high.

 

It's a huge decision.  Feels like it will define what their offense looks like for the next ten years.

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I doubt the Lakers would ship the #2 off to the Knicks for Melo. Why do that? They already have an old broken down ball dominating star.

Take Okafor and pair with Randle, a final year of Kobe and they may make a run at Love or Rondo.

Would be much more favorable than bringing in Melo.

 

I don't know that Randle would factor too heavily into my decision at two if I were the Lakers.  He was a limited player plus he suffered a severe injury and missed his rookie season.

 

But if he was a big factor in my decision at two, then Okafor would not be my preferred outcome.  Pairing Okafor with Randle means LA would never be able to play defense with those two in the same line up.  Trying to defend PnRs would be a disaster and the two of them would give you basically zero rim protection.  It'd create the same defensive problems Minnesota had with Kevin Love and Nikola Pekovic.  You need to pair Julius Randle with a defensive specialist at center like Nerlens Noel, Andrew Bogut, Joakim Noah, etc.  And Okafor needs to be paired with a small ball four that can defend the PF position like Draymond Green or something.

 

But you can't solve everything with one pick.  If I'm LA I ignore Randle and pick the BPA at #2.  If I think I can get a franchise center in Okafor, I figure out what to do with Randle later.  If Randle plays well next season, I can probably flip him for something that's a better fit.

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I don't know that Randle would factor too heavily into my decision at two if I were the Lakers.  He was a limited player plus he suffered a severe injury and missed his rookie season.

 

But if he was a big factor in my decision at two, then Okafor would not be my preferred outcome.  Pairing Okafor with Randle means LA would never be able to play defense with those two in the same line up.  Trying to defend PnRs would be a disaster and the two of them would give you basically zero rim protection.  It'd create the same defensive problems Minnesota had with Kevin Love and Nikola Pekovic.  You need to pair Julius Randle with a defensive specialist at center like Nerlens Noel, Andrew Bogut, Joakim Noah, etc.  And Okafor needs to be paired with a small ball four that can defend the PF position like Draymond Green or something.

 

But you can't solve everything with one pick.  If I'm LA I ignore Randle and pick the BPA at #2.  If I think I can get a franchise center in Okafor, I figure out what to do with Randle later.  If Randle plays well next season, I can probably flip him for something that's a better fit.

 

If I'm the Lakers, I realize that I'm the Lakers and I just grab the most attractive assets I can get. I'm not worried about competing next year. I'm setting myself up for the moment the next disgruntled superstar says, "Get me out of here" and I can offer SOMETHING to the team that has to move him. That's been their MO for 50 years.

 

Part of their issue is that Miami basically stole their template and now does it better, because of Riley. Both those teams know that every five years or so, a superduperstar gets pissed off and wants to be traded, and they will always be the most attractive destinations.

 

New York has never figured out that they AREN'T on that list.

 

(Fredo Buss is not Dr. Buss so that hurts. As does the rise of Miami. As does the fact that if you want to go to LA and be famous, the Clippers can now make you famous. Blake and CP3 have more commercials than anyone else not named Lebron right now. You can get the LA experience with the Clippers suddenly).

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See, I think Philly is totally screwed. All that for the #3 pick. And they are going to be fielding the equivalent of a college team next year. No NBA team can develop 10 young players at once, but Philly is going to have to do so.

Did OKC develope Durant, Westbrook and Harden? Philly is going to be really good in a couple of years.

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