The Evil Genius Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Don't get me wrong - I hate that it (the strategy) is implemented. But I hate more that it's the correct strategy almost all the time. The excuse can't be that big men can't shoot FT's..or that its harder for them because of their height (or hand size). There are plenty of big men in the NBA history that have been excellent FT shooters. Hell, both of the Gasol's shot 80% this year at the line. Of course, I hate the under 2 minute off the ball foul rule too. I'd get rid of that rule and cut the # of timeouts by 75%. I'd also get rid of the timeout gets you the ball at mid court thing they have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjfootballer Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 I hate the ball advance rule. Always have. It's cheap basketball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Harris Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Barkley was MVP that year.... Lol Come on dude Yeah and magic won the all star mvp in 93. Or are you really claiming barlkey was in his prime in Phoenix? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM72 Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 I like the advance rule. It makes the final seconds much more intriguing. Without it, buzzer beaters would go way down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Harris Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 He most definitely is. I'll admit i don't follow it closely. If the requirements are lax then i guess. But that's a statement on the nba hof not in bosh. Above average / good should not be hof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAVEONTHEWARPATH93 Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Yeah and magic won the all star mvp in 93. Or are you really claiming barlkey was in his prime in Phoenix? ....I mean he won the MVP award...which probably means he was still really good Come on man. Was Jordan in his prime in 93? Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Harris Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 ....I mean he won the MVP award...which probably means he was still really good Come on man. Was Jordan in his prime in 93? Lol Are you really asking that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosher Ham Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Lastly, this argument that Jordan couldn't get his team to the finals without certain players...The East in the 80s/late 80s was loaded. It was...thus the reason Jordan didn't start winning until the 90's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAVEONTHEWARPATH93 Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Are you really asking that? Dude, you said Barkley was old and just ring chasing in 93 and I'm telling you that's wrong That's my point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Harris Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Outside of ewings football teams, who was in the east in the 90s? Please don't dare say detleff schrempf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosher Ham Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Dude, you said Barkley was old and just ring chasing in 93 and I'm telling you that's wrong That's my point That wasn't the question you asked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAVEONTHEWARPATH93 Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 That wasn't the question you asked. ....I asked that sarcastically He first made the Barkley comment and I disagreed with it. Go through the last two pages of posts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Harris Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Barkley was not in his prime in 93. Jordan was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Outside of ewings football teams, who was in the east in the 90s? Please don't dare say detleff schrempf Rik Smits? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Harris Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Rik Smits? Nice. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAVEONTHEWARPATH93 Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 (edited) How can a guy win an MVP and not be in his prime? In fact, Barkley improved his numbers the next two seasons I don't understand that Plus Jordan and Barkley came out in the same draft lol I was born in 1993 so yeah I wasn't technically there for it but I still stand by this Edited May 26, 2015 by BRAVEONTHEWARPATH93 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Harris Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 How can a guy win an MVP and not be in his prime? In fact, Barkley improved his numbers the next two seasons I don't understand that Plus Jordan and Barkley came out in the same draft lol I was born in 1993 so yeah I wasn't technically there for it but I still stand by this Maybe i am wrong. I didn't research it. And full disclosure, i was not a Jordan fan growing up, so i tend to discredit him whenever i can lol. I remeber barkley as past his prime then. But what do i know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Predicto Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Wasn't Jordan's comp a bit higher though? It's not like LeBron is single handedly running through Bird, Magic and the Bad Boy Pistons That's my point. That LeBron did it against some **** isn't a plus for him and a knock on Jordan. And yes, Jordan did. You think his first title came in '98? He beat Zeke and Magic to get his first. Then he beat Drexler and Co. Then Barkley. Payton, Kemp and Schrempf, who were more than legit (check those Sonics teams records.) Then Stockton and Malone. LeBron has beaten...an old Spurs who then came back and shook his entire world up the next season. And...? And believe me, there are VERY few athletes I despise more than Jordan. I'm sorry, but the NBA was significantly weaker when Jordan won his rings. One really good player back in the 1990s got you 50 wins. One good player now gets you Kevin Love and T-Wolves - missing the playoffs for 5 straight years. And when Jordan made his big run in the 90s, the dynasties before him had all gotten old. He didn't beat Bird's Celtics, the Showtime Lakers were pretty much done, and so were the Bad Boy Pistons were done by then. The toughest team he had to deal with was Utah. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosher Ham Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Absolutely. The Human Highlight Film is a great example of that. Sure the Hawks made the playoffs...but they only really had one player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Predicto Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 My solution to the hack strategy is.. Learn to shoot free throws. The NBA already has too many ridiculous rules. I look at it as equivalent to a baseball team seeing a runner get to first, and having the pitcher throw over there 55 times in a row to keep him on the bag. Sure, it's legal. But it makes the game unwatchable. You don't want to reward it. Fouling a bad free thrower when they are near the ball is reasonable, but just grabbing a guy on the other end of the court shouldn't be a strategy that we reward. My solution is that off the ball fouls are treated like technicals - the team that gets fouled can choose who shoots them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveakl Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 My solution is that off the ball fouls are treated like technicals - the team that gets fouled can choose who shoots them. All off the ball fouls or only the ones that are intentional? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Predicto Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 All off the ball fouls or only the ones that are intentional? Intentional. I should have said that. NBA refs are savvy enough to make that call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveakl Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Intentional. I should have said that. NBA refs are savvy enough to make that call. hahahahahahahaha Do they get to go to the replay booth? Is Joey Crawford involved? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Genius Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Intentional. I should have said that. NBA refs are savvy enough to make that call. NBA refs are savvy? Since when? http://cdn2.streamable.com/video/39fe9960034d11e589fe196b7ef5860f.webm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosher Ham Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Takes part of the strategy out of the game. I see both sides of it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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