JMS Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 So I don't know if everybody is following what's going on with computer security lately. One reason facebooks IPO was over 104 billion, and why Instagram is now creating their own database of peoples photographs... Is because the utility such a database has to transform the world we live in. Facial recognition software today is good enough that you can take a picture of somebody, match that picture in Facebook or another photographic library and their by get one's name, birthday even place of birth. With these seed facts it's possible to generate most of one's social security. I saw one iphone app, which could accurately predict one's social security with such an automated search in only 5 attempts and bring up someone's entire credit history just with a photograph for input. The photograph was used to get the seed information, and that was used to generate the social security number. . Coarse once they have your social security they can bring up almost any information... Credit history, property tax records, address, criminal record, almost anything The thing that makes everything possible is a comprehensive library of photographs with the associated personal identifiable information. It's going to be quite a brave new world when this stuff becomes common place over the next few years. Everyone's Freaking Out Over Instagram Turning Users' Photos Into Ads (Even Though Most Grams Are Already Ads) Instagram has given itself the right to lease users’ names, likenesses and photos out to advertisers. http://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2012/12/18/instagram-money-grab/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoony Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 I'm fine with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMS Posted December 18, 2012 Author Share Posted December 18, 2012 I'm fine with that. So what did you make this year? Did you make more this year or last year? Have you ever had a STD? Do you have one now? How about anybody in your family? History of mental illness? you or your family? Did you pay all your bills on time this month? What's your credit rating? Who are your three closest friends who I could drop your name to in order to help me close a sale? All that information is available with today's technology given a photograph of you. A photograph which you can not legally prohibit me from taking of you if you appear in public. And that's just the tip of the iceberg. this kind of technology is in it's infancy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rictus58 Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 All that information is available with today's technology given a photograph of you. A photograph which you can not legally prohibit me from taking of you if you appear in public. And that's just the tip of the iceberg. this kind of technology is in it's infancy. That's why I wear a wig and fake mole on my face in public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoony Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 So what did you make this year? Did you make more this year or last year? Have you ever had a STD? Do you have one now? How about anybody in your family? History of mental illness? you or your family? Did you pay all your bills on time this month? What's your credit rating? Who are your three closest friends who I could drop your name to in order to help me close a sale? All that information is available with today's technology given a photograph of you. A photograph which you can not legally prohibit me from taking of you if you appear in public. And that's just the tip of the iceberg. this kind of technology is in it's infancy. Thankfully, I don't participate in facebook for those reasons. Also, I'm not hiding much of anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMS Posted December 18, 2012 Author Share Posted December 18, 2012 That's why I wear a wig and fake mole on my face in public. i don't think that will help you. Facial reconition software is based on the ratio of the distance between your eyes, nose and mouth... hairstyle and facial warts wouldn't effect it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RVAbrendan Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 My thought was that this would affect photographers and the like who share copyrighted images via instagram. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMS Posted December 18, 2012 Author Share Posted December 18, 2012 Thankfully, I don't participate in facebook for those reasons. Also, I'm not hiding much of anything. So nobody who you know who has a Facebook account has ever photographed you and posted your picture? That's why they are augmenting the Facebook data with Instagram, and other services which allow users to post pictures. I don't think you have to have something to hide to value personal privacy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinInsite Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 No Facebook No Sharing I don't want people to know what I'm doing And I certainly don't care what you are doing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duckus Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 Yea, sad to hear about Instagram. Going to probably shut down my account this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMS Posted December 18, 2012 Author Share Posted December 18, 2012 My thought was that this would affect photographers and the like who share copyrighted images via instagram. It's about collecting information on people, and reselling that information. That's what is behind instagram, and it's what's behind facebook's IPO... A wealth of data how can you use it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rictus58 Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 i don't think that will help you. Facial reconition software is based on the ratio of the distance between your eyes, nose and mouth... hairstyle and facial warts wouldn't effect it. That's what you think. The Interpol still hasn't managed to find me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duckus Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 Thankfully, I don't participate in facebook for those reasons. Also, I'm not hiding much of anything. My goal in life it to take a photo of you using Instagram and then buy the image from Facebook and use it in an online ad for the Olive Garden. Muwhahahaha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 The laws to protect our privacy electronicly are archaic and being taken advantage of. There are ways to get around it like TOR, but I understand where some people are coming from in saying they have nothing to hide. I'm just uncomfortable with everything I do online somehow being tracked by something like google, especially when the government is push tech companies to the rights for info if they feel it neccesary. The fact we know some of these companies are selling what they find on us to other companies doesn't sit well with me either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMS Posted December 18, 2012 Author Share Posted December 18, 2012 My goal in life it to take a photo of you using Instagram and then buy the image from Facebook and use it in an online ad for the Olive Garden. Muwhahahaha. Or take a photo of him and have his credit card companies send you a copy of those cards. change the password on his online banking account. Sell his car. etc... coarse that stuff is illegal, totally possible but illegal... Sending out a personal testimonial from Zoony to all his friends endorsing your porn site or sexual augmentation services is perfectly legal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afkidd Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 what's the app called? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMS Posted December 18, 2012 Author Share Posted December 18, 2012 what's the app called? I saw a demo from Carnegie Mellon. The app was not available on the apple APP store, Facial recognition software can ID your SSN The researchers say "smartphone" because they also created a smartphone app to "demonstrate the ability of making the same sensitive inferences in real-time. In an example of 'augmented reality,' the application uses offline and online data to overlay personal and private information over the target's face on the device's screen." http://www.nbcnews.com/technology/technolog/facial-recognition-software-can-id-your-ssn-121749 Face recognition and social media meet in the shadows "As of today, automated face recognition is still pretty bad, but it keeps improving," says Carnegie Mellon CyLab researcher Alessandro Acquisti. "If you look at the technological trends in cloud computing, the accuracy of face recognizers, and online self-disclosures, it is hard not to conclude that what we present today as a proof-of-concept in our study; will tomorrow become as common as everyday text-based searches on a search engine." http://www.csoonline.com/article/686959/face-recognition-and-social-media-meet-in-the-shadows Face-ID Tools Pose New Risk Armed with nothing but a snapshot, researchers at Carnegie Mellon CyLab in Pittsburgh successfully identified about one-third of the people they tested, using a powerful facial-recognition technology recently acquired by Google. Prof. Alessandro Acquisti, the study's author, also found that about 27% of the time, using data gleaned from Facebook profiles of the subjects he identified, he could correctly predict the first five digits of their Social Security numbers. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111903341404576480371062384798.htmlhttp://www.economist.com/node/21524829 Anonymous no more The study's authors, Alessandro Acquisti, Ralph Gross and Fred Stutzman, all at America’s Carnegie Mellon CyLab, ran several experiments that show how three converging technologies are undermining privacy. By mining public sources, including Facebook profiles and government databases, the researchers could identify at least one personal interest of each student and, in a few cases, the first five digits of a social security number. http://www.economist.com/node/21524829 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 Yeah, I don't really have anything to hide but I don't like all of my unified info being available to anyone who wants it. I suppose this is the way things are going though. Money can buy anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 What really scares me, about this whole thing, is: 1) Right now, the technology exists to collect and retain all this information, in unimaginable quantities. But the technology to exploit the information is still in it's infancy. 2) But, the technology to exploit it is expanding rapidly. And, when that technology does explode, there will be decades of data which collectors have been accumulating and storing, just in case it might be useful, someday. 3) And, a system of laws, covering this technology, which were written by industry lobbyists. Laws which essentially state that anybody that wants to is allowed to collect any information they can about you, and once they get it, is allowed to do anything they want with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsmarydu Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 No Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, or anything else. And we're so paranoid, we assume we're on camera even in our own home. :pfft: Can't be too careful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IONTOP Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 C'mon people... You must welcome this technology... You're starting to sound like the people who were afraid of modern medicine, computers, internet, etc... I for one welcome my identity thieving overlords. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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