willbur06 Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 Teams had him figured out after the first year. He's got to be able to beat bump coverage to even think about staying around now. Didn't McNabb throw it to him the majority of the time that season? Grossman didn't have the long ball. Do you think maybe it was the QB and not the WR? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Always A Commander Never A Captain Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 As Hunterx said, Paul is not eligible for the Practice Squad. Paul also is one of our best special teams players, there is no way he's not on the active roster each game. Austin has the tools to make the team as a slot guy. He just hasn't quite gotten it yet. Players like Antonio Brown (Steelers) and Victor Cruz (Giants) have I believe similar measurements and 40 times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art.Monk_81 Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 I really hope AA gets a chance to prove you guys wrong. Loved him in 10 and he is a fantastic underdog story. I really like the little guy make good tales. Hopefully, he sticks around. It will be tough for him because it looks like the top three are set... and then there's Hankerson. Armstrong isn't a special teams star so he's got the hard uphill fight to get on the team. I'll be rooting for him though. He COULD be a special teams player... the reason he is in the NFL is because of his Special teams play, (along with his WR play of course) look it up in 2006 Arena League he had an onside kick return for a touchdown, THE deciding touchdown for his team to win, and he also returned kicks through his college and IFL/AFL career ---------- Post added March-29th-2012 at 05:08 PM ---------- As Hunterx said, Paul is not eligible for the Practice Squad. Paul also is one of our best special teams players, there is no way he's not on the active roster each game.Austin has the tools to make the team as a slot guy. He just hasn't quite gotten it yet. Players like Antonio Brown (Steelers) and Victor Cruz (Giants) have I believe similar measurements and 40 times. Oh and as long as Paul doesn't do this on Special Teams, I'm fine with that.................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HailGreen28 Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 My top eight going into training camp would be these guys. With Banks and Armstrong at most risk of getting cut. But I know nothing. Armstrong Banks Gaffney Garcon Hankerson Morgan Moss Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fifthorkid88 Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 AA is very much a longshot to make the roster this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COWBOY-KILLA- Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 It will be a battle come camp and I'm not sure if AA has got the skills to stick around. He's one dimensional, even though that dimension is important. We'll see what having a real QB is like, makes me think we should re-analyze our WR core on a clean slate. I say maybe he makes it, 40-50% chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeJGibbs Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 I don't know if Armstrong will make it next year. Defensive backs manhandled him last year. I think Paul is a darkhorse, Shanahan came out and said he thinks Paul will be a very good receiver Completely true. At the line of scrimmage his game suffers on press coverage. And when the ball is in the air, he lacks the strength and body frame to make plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-Rey Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 As much as I like AA and his story, I think the Garcon signing is the writing on the wall for him. Right now I'd like us to keep 6- Garcon, Morgan, Gaffney, Hankerson, Paul, and one of either Moss, Austin, or Robinson. Tana is great, but he really doesn't have that breakaway speed that teams want in their slot guy. It may be time to give somebody else a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GO HAMSKINS Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 I'll much rather have Austin, than I would Armstron just MHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterx Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 Can't keep too many of the same type of receiver on the team. For possession receivers, I would think Hankerson and Gaffney there. Gaffney may not have size, but he seemed to be the most reliable to get open for the first down last year. For the Deep threat, I believe Garcon and Armstrong, right? For that short to intermediate route tree, slants, hitches and outs, we would see Moss, Paula and Morgan? We haven't seen too much "play" from Austin or Robinson for me to figure out where they would fit in. I don't think Banks fits anywhere. Am I missing anyone? This also doesn't include WR's we possibly draft and/or pickup through UFA, OTA's and Training Camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MumboSauce Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 Teams had him figured out after the first year. He's got to be able to beat bump coverage to even think about staying around now. ^^^ This is exactly it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RawBBQSauce Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 Banks and AA will be long gone come September. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 Didn't McNabb throw it to him the majority of the time that season? Grossman didn't have the long ball. Do you think maybe it was the QB and not the WR? The WR is not without blame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 We have to keep Gaffney. He was our best and most reliable receiver last year. When Rex didn't look like he had a chance, he always found Gaffney. What was Gaffney's YAC last year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B&GVol24 Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 If I had to guess (not depth-chart order) -- 1. Moss 2. Gaffney 3. Garcon 4. Hank 5. Morgan 6. Paul 7. Robinson IMHO, I think the only non-locks are Moss and Gaffney. At best, this will be the last year in B&G for either of them (will be sad when we part from Moss, but that's the biz). I would bet money both Paul and Robinson make it. IIRC, didn't we activate Robinson because we sensed interest from another team? Austin, AA, and Banks gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RawBBQSauce Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 What was Gaffney's YAC last year? YAC is a different story, of course. Garçon should help in that department. You still cannot deny Gaffney's production last year in the midst of a real QB struggle from start to finish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 YAC is a different story, of course. Garçon should help in that department. You still cannot deny Gaffney's production last year in the midst of a real QB struggle from start to finish. No, YAC is part of the story. It's specifically why Garçon & Morgan were brought in. We didn't even have a 1,000 yard WR last year. Hell, the last GOOD receiver tandem we had was Westbrook & Connell. And they only caught fire for one year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skin'Em84 Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 I'm still waiting for Paul to explode. Guy is strong, fast, and has good hands. It's only a matter of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjfootballer Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 I like Morgan over Armstrong. Armstrong is inconsistent and drops too many gimmie balls. Had a few drops last year that made me want to pull out my hair. Reminds me of TO. He did drop alot of balls last year. He'll have to have surer hands in TC if he wants a roster spot. ---------- Post added March-30th-2012 at 09:43 AM ---------- Garcon Hankerson Moss Gaffney Morgan Even if it isn't in that order, I'd take all 5 of these guys over AA right now. And I don't want us to hold 6 WRs again. Not with Banks gone... I think we'll keep 6 at minumum. Maybe 7 if they want a return guy. I want to keep Austin if possible for potential.....he could be our answer at SLOT next year when Moss is gone. Austin for me has been too inconsistant. I think the coaching staff loves what Robinson brings as a future slot receiver and from what the media is saying, the coaches are raving about how hard Aldrick worked in the offseason. As Hunterx said, Paul is not eligible for the Practice Squad. Paul also is one of our best special teams players, there is no way he's not on the active roster each game.Austin has the tools to make the team as a slot guy. He just hasn't quite gotten it yet. Players like Antonio Brown (Steelers) and Victor Cruz (Giants) have I believe similar measurements and 40 times. Agree. If we don't re-sign Westbrook, Paul becomes our best gunner. The tandem of those 2 were the best in the league IMO. And you could be right that Austin may have to have a "get it" year like Brown and Cruz did. If I had to guess (not depth-chart order) --1. Moss 2. Gaffney 3. Garcon 4. Hank 5. Morgan 6. Paul 7. Robinson IMHO, I think the only non-locks are Moss and Gaffney. At best, this will be the last year in B&G for either of them (will be sad when we part from Moss, but that's the biz). I would bet money both Paul and Robinson make it. IIRC, didn't we activate Robinson because we sensed interest from another team? Austin, AA, and Banks gone. This is probably what it will look like when the smoke clears in August/September. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warpath11 Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 It doesn't matter that AA can run a 4.25 40 w/o pads or a DB on him. He turns into a 5.5 40 guy as soon as he is bumped at the line (as others have mentioned), he is not physical enough right now to be effective. Id rather him get slower but stronger so he can fight with those DBs and get off the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkskin Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 What would be the point in keeping Gaffney on board? I have nothing against him, but don't see the point in hanging on to him and sacrificing a roster spot that could be held by a younger, faster, more explosive guy. I'd rather see AA rebound, or TA emerge, or see what Robinson can do. Maybe the new WR coach willl help Armstrong work against press coverage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins Wingman Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 i would keep gaffney based on his 1 handed td catch last year alone... hes clearly one of our best receivers. last year everybody was, "we need armstrong to win" and when he came back, we still lost. maybe because grossman didnt have the arm to get it to him, but i dont see him staying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportjunkie07 Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 i think armstrong wont make the team.. if he couldnt perform well last year when we had next to nothing at WR, i dont see how he'll make the cut now that we've added two starters... i also think we should attempt to trade gaffney.. ---------- Post added March-30th-2012 at 04:55 PM ---------- What would be the point in keeping Gaffney on board? I have nothing against him, but don't see the point in hanging on to him and sacrificing a roster spot that could be held by a younger, faster, more explosive guy. I'd rather see AA rebound, or TA emerge, or see what Robinson can do. Maybe the new WR coach willl help Armstrong work against press coverage. agreed.. his production will likely go down significantly without so many targets, then we'll get nothing for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhodus333 Posted April 19, 2012 Author Share Posted April 19, 2012 With gaffney on the trading block, i think armstrong's chances just got alot better. Watch the highlight clips from the OP with this thought in mind..... Aside from Gaffney, can you think of any other reciever that has been close to Armstrong's level of success IN THIS OFFENSIVE SCHEME? Everyone of those highlights are from kyle shanahans playbook, and as excited as i am with the addition of Garcon and Morgan, we have yet to see them be successful running our offense. Makes keeping Armstrong on the team an absolute no brainer in my opinion. He's certainly had the most success within the offense of any of the recievers on the roster when he was healthy enough to play. Hoping that with the offseqson to get his legs right, he comes out blazing like he did in 2010, only with a much better qb situation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-bomb Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 AA spot should go to our late draft pick wr ty hilton! We don't need AA, theres a reason we went after 3 wrs in FA and its not because our wr group was good last year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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