doctorshockalu Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 I searched 10 pages for the post that detailed who was released by coach and who is still playing in the league. Can someone please find this for me? And then tell me what you searched? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krisco750 Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 This is by no means official - i basically just looked up all the players that were released by the Redskins since Shannahan took over and looked them up on Rotoworld: Released (On Rosters): OG Paul Fanaika Seahawks QB Richard Bartel Cardinals S Tyron Carter Chargers NT Howard Green Packers WR Shay Hodge Bengals OG Chad Rinehart Bills CB Ramzee Robinson Browns WR Devin Thomas Giants DL Jeremy Clark Eagles OG Derrick Dockery Cowboys RB Andre Brown Giants P Sam Paulescu 49ers K Shayne Graham Dolphins OT Selvish Capers Giants QB Kellen Clemens Texans RB Shaun Draughn Chiefs LB Thaddeus Gibson Texans OG Artis Hicks Browns LB Edgar Jones Ravens RB Keiland Williams Lions RB Tashard Choice Bills Released (Free Agents): K Justin Medlock DL Greg Peterson WR Marques Hagans RB Willie Parker FB Carey Davis LB Curtis Gatewood TE Lee Vickers WR Bobby Wade RB Larry Johnson WR Joey Galloway P Hunter Smith RB Clinton Portis C Casey Rabach DE Phillip Daniels NT Maake Kemoeatu RB Chad Simpson WR Roydell Williams WR Malcolm Kelly LB Obi Ezeh WR Isaac Anderson LB Horatio Blades NT Anthony Bryant TE Tony Curtis QB Matt Gutierrez S Chris Horton CB Reggie Jones OT Clint Oldenburg C Donovan Raiola TE Derek Schouman DB Davonte Shannon DL Jeff Stehle TE Dominique Byrd Traded (On Rosters): QB Donovan McNabb Vikings DL Albert Haynesworth Buccaneers DL Vonnie Holliday Cardinals Traded (Free Agents): CB Doug Dutch TE Dennis Morris DE Jeremy Jarmon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sideshow24 Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Ok doc, your turn. Tell us your hypothesis and conclusion. After all, krisco did a lot of work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long n Left Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Yuck. A team made from that roster would MAYBE be a .500 team...in the SEC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audible_Red40 Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Yeah that sure is a bunch of failure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrecker Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Yeah it says a lot when the players released that are not currently on a roster far exceeds the ones who are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forehead Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Yeah it says a lot when the players released that are not currently on a roster far exceeds the ones who are. Well, to me it says the team is making better personnel choices. Personally, I'm enjoying seeing draft picks contribute off the bench for once, and I'm thinking of someone like Perry Riley here, not a Kerrigan or Orakpo or Trent Williams, who has started from day 1. A draft pick who sat the bench for awhile, we didn't know if he was any good, and guess what, when he gets his opportunity, he's actually good at his job. How many times has that happened to us recently? That tells me we're heading in the right direction depth wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PD93 Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 I should be still on the roster. Lol......Nobody can fill 93 like I can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santana_4_prez Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 I should be still on the roster. Lol......Nobody can fill 93 like I can. +1. We miss you out there! How's your son doing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dro89 Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 I should be still on the roster. Lol......Nobody can fill 93 like I can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rypien 91 Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 I should be still on the roster. Lol......Nobody can fill 93 like I can. Yup! I miss seeing you out there. Maybe you could have sacked Romo sits to pee and not missed like Orakpo, haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bird_1972 Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Well, to me it says the team is making better personnel choices. Personally, I'm enjoying seeing draft picks contribute off the bench for once, and I'm thinking of someone like Perry Riley here, not a Kerrigan or Orakpo or Trent Williams, who has started from day 1. A draft pick who sat the bench for awhile, we didn't know if he was any good, and guess what, when he gets his opportunity, he's actually good at his job. How many times has that happened to us recently? That tells me we're heading in the right direction depth wise.I agree with this statement. It also provides further proof as to why it's taking so long for Shannahan to turn this ship around. The talent level was awful on this team as a result of years of terrible Vinny-led personnel moves. ---------- Post added November-30th-2011 at 11:36 AM ---------- PD - you were one of the good ones out there. I hope they bring you back into the organization in some capacity in the future when appropriate. (coach? front office?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#98QBKiller Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 I should be still on the roster. Lol......Nobody can fill 93 like I can. We'd more than love to have you back PD! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frommd Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 PD - you were one of the good ones out there. I hope they bring you back into the organization in some capacity in the future when appropriate. (coach? front office?)Strength coach! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenspandan Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 I should be still on the roster. Lol......Nobody can fill 93 like I can. can you block on field goals? heck for that matter can you kick field goals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gchwood Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 The list of players on other rosters and as FAs make me think that maybe they are making the right decisions overall. Except of course to release PD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlvinWaltonIsMyBoy Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 I think this says a ton. Not only are our FO guys making good moves, but it also says what kind of dumpster fire Shanny and Bruce inherited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MassSkinsFan Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 I took a look at when these guys were signed and released. 2 of them (Paulescu and Hagans) were actually released before Shanny got here. I identified guys who were either camp fodder, short term evaluations (ex. Tashard Choice) or signed in the offseason and ultimately cut after camp, and took them off the list. Here's what remains: Released (On Rosters): OG Paul Fanaika Seahawks QB Richard Bartel Cardinals OG Chad Rinehart Bills WR Devin Thomas Giants OG Derrick Dockery Cowboys RB Andre Brown Giants OG Artis Hicks Browns RB Keiland Williams Lions Released (Free Agents): RB Larry Johnson WR Joey Galloway P Hunter Smith RB Clinton Portis C Casey Rabach DE Phillip Daniels NT Maake Kemoeatu RB Chad Simpson WR Roydell Williams WR Malcolm Kelly LB Horatio Blades NT Anthony Bryant S Chris Horton OT Clint Oldenburg Most of them were either injured, getting older, or underperforming. So I think it's safe to say most were good decisions. It's interesting that 4 of the 8 guys who were released and are now on rosters are OGs. Not sure what that means, but it seemed to jump out at me. Also, look at what we got for the trades: McNabb - 2012 6th and conditional 2013 6th Haynesworth - 2013 5th Holliday and 2011 6th - Hightower Dutch - Beck Morris - Hall Davis (released) Jarmon - Gaffney I'd say that Morris/Davis was a wash (I don't understand how that one worked - does anyone else?) and Beck was a bust, but Gaffney and Hightower were pretty good (I know TH is injured but it was a good decision at the time) and I think we're all pleased that we got something back for DM and AH. Finally, of the 28 guys released or traded after discounting the camp fodder/short term guys, half were brought here by Shanny and half were inherited from Vinny. I don't have time to look this up, but it would be interesting to know how many of the guys Shanny brought have stayed versus how many have been released/traded (minus the short termers and camp fodder). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Always A Commander Never A Captain Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Good post MassSkinsFan! Most of them were either injured, getting older, or underperforming. So I think it's safe to say most were good decisions. It's interesting that 4 of the 8 guys who were released and are now on rosters are OGs. Not sure what that means, but it seemed to jump out at me. Of the 4 guards, I believe they're all backups who have been forced to start on occasion due to injuries. I don't miss Rinehart. Don't even remember Fanaika. Dockery just didn't fit. Although Hicks would have been wanted. I suppose the coaches saw enough potential in Hurt that they gambled he could improve quickly enough. But that doesn't seem to be the case. The jury's still out on his future. He has some decent plays and some piss poor ones. Who knows if he makes the team again next season, but keeping him around for depth and development wouldn't be a bad thing. I do know that he's better than Selvish Capers (whose now on the Giants). Capers was embarrassing to watch in the preseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayn Steebonz Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 No Andre Carter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MassSkinsFan Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 No Andre Carter? Good catch. I should have noticed that too. So, add AC to the list. That's one I think we could question along with PD93. Still, in Coach I Trust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExoDus84 Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Jason Campbell, QB, traded, Oakland Raiders Randle-El, WR, cut Levi Jones, OL, cut I'm pretty sure those were shanny moves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krisco750 Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Doh! Looks like I missed a few.. my bad! ---------- Post added November-30th-2011 at 06:46 PM ---------- I'd have to agree with the Andre Carter and Phillip Daniels releases. I could make an argument for Phillip Daniels over Darrion Scott, even if he was up there in age, but keep in mind we released PD93 before Jarvis got injured. As for AC - he was great for us, and is a good player for sure - but after seeing him in the 3-4 and our current LB corps, I can't say I'd rather have him over anyone we have now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annonymous Source Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 I should be still on the roster. Lol......Nobody can fill 93 like I can. Nobody can quite Fill #93 like Phil... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krisco750 Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 aww, now I feel bad - didn't see PD93 was posting in this thread. Sorry, Phil! nothing personal for what it's worth you were / still are one of my fav 'skins! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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