Renegade7 Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 I wish Nikki Minaj would quit the pop star act and get back to rapping. That's her true strength, and she's damn good at it when she wants to be, imo... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM72 Posted November 20, 2012 Author Share Posted November 20, 2012 What a bunch of old farts in here whining about how today's music sucks. "Today's music sucks" is an argument that has only been made by EVERY generation since music's been made. Do you think anybody's gonna be listening to todays garbage in years to come. Go to any sports stadium and you still hear 80's music pumping. Turn on the radio and you still hear songs from the 70s and 80s. I have a strange feeling you will not be hearing any Justin Bieber of Nicki Manaj in 20 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sinister Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Do you think anybody's gonna be listening to todays garbage in years to come. Go to any sports stadium and you still hear 80's music pumping. Turn on the radio and you still hear songs from the 70s and 80s. I have a strange feeling you will not be hearing any Justin Bieber of Nicki Manaj in 20 years. Spoken truly like someone who only listens to oldies and sees a few popular, yet crappy artists, and decides that (with his severely limited knowledge) that all current music sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM72 Posted November 20, 2012 Author Share Posted November 20, 2012 You're kidding yourself. For every 70's classic I could counter with a "Me and You and a Dog Named Boo." Same with the 80s and 90s. Nostalgia warps perspective. Dan, please. Like Evil Genius said, the no talented wonders of back in the day were no awarded like these people are today. Case in point, just go Google up the list of legendary artist that has never won a Grammy while people like Brittney Spears have a slew of them. PS: Justin Bieber is gonna end up as a more celebrated artist than artist like Marvin Gaye and Rod Stewart. ---------- Post added November-20th-2012 at 06:56 PM ---------- Spoken truly like someone who only listens to oldies and sees a few popular, yet crappy artists, and decides that (with his severely limited knowledge) that all current music sucks I listen to quite.a bit of contemporary music and it just isn't that good. There are a few good artist, but for the most part, they take a back seat to entertainers like Beiber and Minaj. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sinister Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 DM, you're confusing popularity with vocal ability. There are a ton of talented artists who couldn't reach a certain level of popularity because they didn't have the "Look." If popularity was soley based on someone's ability to sing, or lyrical quality people like Nicki Minaj would not exist. Being a popular artist is about more than that, and some people can pull it off better than others. No one is going to take your Marvin Gaye away from you. He is one of the greatest R&B artists of all time. No one forgot about Beethoven because of the Beatles. No one is going to forget about Marvin Gaye because of Bieber (not that he is even anywhere near that level). And just because someone wins an award doesn't always necessarily mean that they are a great artist, and just because someone may even win a slew of awards over their career does not mean that they are better than another artist just for that reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrypticVillain Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 What a bunch of old farts in here whining about how today's music sucks. "Today's music sucks" is an argument that has only been made by EVERY generation since music's been made. Old Farts? I am 23 I will take old mainstream music over today's anytime of the week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM72 Posted November 21, 2012 Author Share Posted November 21, 2012 DM, you're confusing popularity with vocal ability. There are a ton of talented artists who couldn't reach a certain level of popularity because they didn't have the "Look." If popularity was soley based on someone's ability to sing, or lyrical quality people like Nicki Minaj would not exist. Being a popular artist is about more than that, and some people can pull it off better than others. No one is going to take your Marvin Gaye away from you. He is one of the greatest R&B artists of all time. No one forgot about Beethoven because of the Beatles. No one is going to forget about Marvin Gaye because of Bieber (not that he is even anywhere near that level). And just because someone wins an award doesn't always necessarily mean that they are a great artist, and just because someone may even win a slew of awards over their career does not mean that they are better than another artist just for that reason. Good points. But you just get tired of seeing people that aren't all that talented get rewarded year after year. And on too of that, some of these guys really need to be humbled. Justin Beiber addressing "haters." Nicki Minaj jumping in Mariah Carey's face? Do I need to bring up Kanye West? A lot of these people are just unlikable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sly Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 What a bunch of old farts in here whining about how today's music sucks. "Today's music sucks" is an argument that has only been made by EVERY generation since music's been made. Ding, ding. Seriously, "back in my day" is such a tired argument. You'll hear plenty of that around the dinner tables this weekend. Each generation can go tit for tat on practically everything. 70's, 80's, 90's, 00's all had amazing music, as well as plenty of crap we'd like (and always do) forget. The influence an artist can have on future generations is impossible to predict, but technological advancements in recording and the ability of ANY ARTIST to reach the masses is the greatest it has ever been. Today... at this very moment... if you can't find good music... movies... TV shows... books... a nice local restaurant to take a date... it's your own damn fault. Open your eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan T. Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 Do you think anybody's gonna be listening to todays garbage in years to come. Go to any sports stadium and you still hear 80's music pumping. Turn on the radio and you still hear songs from the 70s and 80s. I have a strange feeling you will not be hearing any Justin Bieber of Nicki Manaj in 20 years. And what were stadiums in the 80s pumping? Music from the 60s and 70s. Good music stands the test of time. The reason you still hear good music from the 70s and 80s is because there was some great, great music made back then. But there was also alot of drek recorded then too. ALOT of drek. The great songs still get played today. The drek is - thankfully - forgotten. Just as today's drek will be forgotten while the good stuff lasts. Just last week I was long distance driving and while channel surfing I heard a snippet a radio station replaying a recording of Kasey Kasum's American Top 40. The one song I remember was James Taylor's How Sweet It Is (To Be Loved By You). I just looked it up and it came out in 1975. So here's the American Top 40 year-end survey from 1975: AMERICAN TOP 40 YEAR-END SURVEY 1975 1975 Top 100 1 LOVE WILL KEEP US TOGETHER CAPTAIN & TENNILLE 2 RHINESTONE COWBOY GLEN CAMPBELL 3 PHILADELPHIA FREEDOM ELTON JOHN 4 BEFORE THE NEXT TEARDROP FALLS FREDDIE FENDER 5 MY EYES ADORED YOU FRANKIE VALLI 6 SOME KIND OF WONDERFUL GRAND FUNK 7 SHINING STAR EARTH, WIND & FIRE 8 FAME DAVID BOWIE 9 LAUGHTER IN THE RAIN NEIL SEDAKA 10 ONE OF THESE NIGHTS EAGLES 11 THANK GOD I'M A COUNTRY BOY JOHN DENVER 12 JIVE TALKIN' BEE GEES 13 BEST OF MY LOVE EAGLES 14 LOVING YOU MINNIE RIPERTON 15 KUNG-FU FIGHTING CARL DOUGLAS 16 BLACK WATER DOOBIE BROTHERS 17 BALL-ROOM BLITZ SWEET 18 HEY, WON'T YOU PLAY, ANOTHER SOMEBODY DONE SOMEBODY WRONG SONG B.J. THOMAS 19 HE DON'T LOVE YOU LIKE I DO TONY ORLANDO & DAWN 20 AT 17 JANIS IAN 21 PICK UP THE PIECES AVERAGE WHITE BAND 22 THE HUSTLE VAN MCCOY 23 LADY MARMALADE LABELLE 24 WHY CAN'T WE BE FRIENDS WAR 25 LOVE WON'T LET ME WAIT MAJOR HARRIS 26 BOOGIE ON REGGIE WOMAN STEVIE WONDER 27 WASTED DAYS & WASTED NIGHTS FREDDIE FENDER (TIE) 27 ANGIE BABY HELEN REDDY (TIE) 29 FIGHT THE POWER ISLEY BROTHERS 30 JACKIE BLUE OZARK MOUNTAIN DAREDEVILS 31 FIRE OHIO PLAYERS 32 MAGIC PILOT 33 PLEASE MR. POSTMAN CARPENTERS 34 SISTER GOLDENHAIR AMERICA 35 LUCY IN THE SKY WITH DIAMONDS ELTON JOHN 36 MANDY BARRY MANILOW 37 HAVE YOU NEVER BEEN MELLOW OLIVIA NEWTON-JOHN 38 COULD IT BE MAGIC BARRY MANILOW 39 CAT'S IN THE CRADLE HARRY CHAPIN 40 WILDFIRE MICHAEL MURPHY 41 I'M NOT LISA JESSE COLTER 42 LISTEN TO WHAT THE MAN SAYS WINGS 43 I'M NOT IN LOVE 10CC 44 I CAN HELP BILLY SWAN 45 FALLING IN LOVE HAMILTON, JOE FRANK, & REYNOLDS 46 FEELINGS MORRIS ALBERT 47 WHEN WILL I BE LOVED LINDA RONSTADT 48 CHEVY VAN SAMMY JOHNS 49 YOU'RE THE FIRST, MY LAST, MY EVERYTHING BARRY WHITE 50 PLEASE MR. PLEASE OLIVIA NEWTON-JOHN 51 YOU'RE NO GOOD LINDA RONSTADT 52 DYNOMITE BAZOOKA 53 WALKING IN RHYTHM BLACKBYRDS 54 TRY TO REMEMBER GLADYS KNIGHT & THE PIPS 55 MIDNIGHT BLUE MELISSA MANCHESTER 56 DON'T CALL US, WE'LL CALL YOU SUGARLOAF 57 POETRY MAN PHOEBE SNOW 58 HOW LONG ACE 59 EXPRESS B.T. EXPRESS 60 THAT'S THE WAY OF THE WORLD EARTH, WIND & FIRE 61 LADY STYX 62 BAD TIME GRAND FUNK 63 ONLY WOMEN ALICE COOPER 64 DOCTOR'S ORDERS CAROL DOUGLAS 65 GET DOWN TONIGHT K.C. & THE SUNSHINE BAND 66 ONE MAN WOMAN, ONE WOMAN MAN PAUL ANKA 67 YOU ARE SO BEAUTIFUL JOE ****ER 68 FEEL LIKE MAKIN' LOVE BAD COMPANY 69 HOW SWEET IT IS TO BE LOVED BY YOU JAMES TAYLOR 70 DANCE WITH ME ORLEANS 71 NEVER CAN SAY GOODBYE GLORIA GAYNOR (TIE) 71 CUT THE CAKE AVERAGE WHITE BAND (TIE) 73 I DON'T LIKE TO SLEEP ALONE PAUL ANKA 74 MORNING SIDE OF THE MOUNTAIN DONNY & MARIE OSMOND 75 WHEN WILL I SEE YOU AGAIN THREE DEGREES 76 GET DOWN GET DOWN JOE SIMON 77 I'M SORRY / CALYPSO JOHN DENVER 78 KILLER QUEEN QUEEN 79 SHOE-SHINE BOY EDDIE KENDRICKS 80 DO IT B.T. EXPRESS 81 CAN'T GET IT OUT OF MY HEAD ELECTRIC LIGHT ORCHESTRA 82 SHA LA LA MAKES ME HAPPY AL GREEN 83 LONELY PEOPLE AMERICA 84 YOU GOT THE LOVE RUFUS 85 THE ROCKFORD FILES MIKE POST 86 IT ONLY TAKES A MINUTE TAVARES 87 THE NO-NO SONG RINGO STARR 88 JUNIOR'S FARM PAUL MCCARTNEY & WINGS 89 BUNGLE IN THE JUNGLE JETHRO TULL 90 LONG TALL GLASSES LEO SAYER 91 MISTY RAY STEVENS 92 SOMEONE SAVED MY LIFE TONIGHT ELTON JOHN 93 BAD BLOOD NEIL SEDAKA 94 ONLY YESTERDAY CARPENTERS 95 I'M ON FIRE DWIGHT TWILLEY BAND 96 ONLY YOU RINGO STARR 97 YOU AIN'T SEEN NOTHIN' YET BACHMAN -TURNER OVERDRIVE (TIE) 97 THIRD-RATE ROMANCE AMAZING RHYTHM ACES (TIE) 99 SWEARIN' TO GOD FRANKIE VALLI 100 GET DANCIN' DISCOTHEQUE & THE SEX-O-LETTES http://www.oldradioshows.com/at100/1975.html I'll leave it to you to defend this list as soooo much better than music today. Because there is a whole lot of utterly forgetable crap in there. Along with a few gems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosher Ham Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 Sorry Dan, but most of that stuff is comparable to todays pop garbage. Not saying it was garbage or todays is garbage. Saying that it's not that much different as far as talent or star power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan T. Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 Sorry Dan, but most of that stuff is comparable to todays pop garbage. Not saying it was garbage or todays is garbage. Saying that it's not that much different as far as talent or star power. You must have misread me. That's exactly my point. Most of it is forgetable fluff. Hilariously so. Sure, buried within are a few gems. But it's mostly forgetable music that was popular for a short time in that era. Just like music from any generation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toe Jam Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 Rihanna should retire. She can't sing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM72 Posted November 21, 2012 Author Share Posted November 21, 2012 There were quite a few classics in that list Dan. I'll put that list up against any year end survey in this decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Genius Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 Why not compare what's on the AMAs now to... 40 years ago - 1972 --> http://www.oldradioshows.com/at100/1972.html 30 years ago - 1982 --> http://www.oldradioshows.com/at100/1982.html 20 years ago - 1992 --> http://www.oldradioshows.com/at100/1992.html 10 years ago - 2002 --> http://www.oldradioshows.com/at100/2002.html Granted - these are user requested songs compiled by Casey Kasem (and Shadow Stevens). They are not a list of the best songs of that year. But neither is the AMAs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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