TD_washingtonredskins Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 A lot of the people in this thread are correct when they say that coaches will just have the kickers kick the ball higher. That's what I'd do. That's why you should give the kicking team the option (if you change anything which I don't believe you should). If you have a strong-legged kicker, you can still kick from the 30 with TBs putting the ball on the 20. If you don't, you can kick from the 35 with TBs putting the ball on the 25. Or, you can kick from either spot and try to kick high and short. I'd rather they just keep the ball at the 30 though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CM916 Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 Forget getting rid of kickoffs, let's just stop playing football alltogether, it's just far too dangerous and barbaric for this enlightened age. It's not like the players are getting well compensated for the risk they take or anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outlaw Torn Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 This rule change would seem really unnecessary to me they already got rid of the wedge which I thought was where most players got hurt on kickoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Tater Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 Yeah, not happening. If we're smart we'll limit him to punt returns anyways, and get him off of kick returns. So this potential rule change wouldn't effect him. Thing is, teamers who don't play both ways better be big contributors elsewhere or their career is going to be short. In 2 years if he continues to be just a 1-way special teamer, BB better be the 4th or better as WR or he is gone (unless IR rules are revamped to be similar to what they were in the 70s and early 80s). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 Thing is, teamers who don't play both ways better be big contributors elsewhere or their career is going to be short. In 2 years if he continues to be just a 1-way special teamer, BB better be the 4th or better as WR or he is gone (unless IR rules are revamped to be similar to what they were in the 70s and early 80s). There are a few electric returners around the league who earn their way on the team purely for that duty, and never sniff action at WR. Banks would have to prove to be one of those few anyways, to keep such a small dude on the team. If he's not racking up yardage on returns, staying healthy, and scoring a couple times a season, you don't keep him on the team. That simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mania Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 if it ain't broke, don't fix it! When players decertify and owners lock players it it definitely is broken! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champskins Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 When players decertify and owners lock players it it definitely is broken! what I meant was they have bigger fish to fry with getting the deal done then changing where the damn kicker kicks and where the KR receives it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD_washingtonredskins Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 When players decertify and owners lock players it it definitely is broken! Good point...from what I understand, the sticking point last week before the two parties walked away from the negotiations was definitely kick-offs and touchbacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouvan59 Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 This isn't happening. This is just the owners throwing bones out there to try to show they are concerned about player safety while negotiations for an 18 game schedule continue. As soon as an agreement is reached this will quietly go away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moondog Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 It actually would probably increase the number of injuries...the 25 yard touchback now places emphasis on high, short kickoffs, which lets the kicking team get down to the ball sooner, possibly right when the receiver is catching it...There are holes all over this proposal. THIS is exactly what will happen. Teams aren't going to "play by the rule" and sacrifice giving up an extra five yards. They would take advantage of the rule and kick it higher and short every time for exactly this reason and it will only lead to worse field position and the injury rate will likely stay the same. Another problem with this rule is that they are attempting to limit the role or importance of special teams players. Several players make a team each year and really only contribute on special teams. This definitely hurts those young developmental players that make a team that way and places more of an emphasis on a guy that contributes specifically on offense and defense. I don't see this rule as a good idea at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polywog999 Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 How about everyone has to play....BACKWARDS?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Tater Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 There are a few electric returners around the league who earn their way on the team purely for that duty, and never sniff action at WR. Banks would have to prove to be one of those few anyways, to keep such a small dude on the team. If he's not racking up yardage on returns, staying healthy, and scoring a couple times a season, you don't keep him on the team. That simple. As I said in my post. None, however, last more than a couple of years before they move on, either to a new team or, more likely, out of the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 As I said in my post. None, however, last more than a couple of years before they move on, either to a new team or, more likely, out of the league. True. Its inevitable. To be that electric, usually they are pretty small, and depend entirely on their speed and agility. So injuries are not only easier, but pretty much kill their careers. We should just enjoy banks while we can. It would be nice to just freeze him in Carbonite until we're competitive again, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJL Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 They should create fair catches on kick offs. That means that anytime some tries to shank it you don't have to worry about a guy with no experience with the ball trying to deal with it. Just make sure it can only be called as the ball approaches beyond eleven yards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman21ST Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 They should create fair catches on kick offs. That means that anytime some tries to shank it you don't have to worry about a guy with no experience with the ball trying to deal with it. Just make sure it can only be called as the ball approaches beyond eleven yards You can already fair catch a kickoff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airborneskins Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 You guys are looking at this all backwards. When was the last time that we had a kicker that could actually kick the ball into the endzone for a touchback? This rule may actually help us...:paranoid: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabR Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 move it to the 40 and kickoffs have to be old straight ahead type kickers like they had before soccer style Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laron Burgundy Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 Why don't they just get rid of kickoffs and set the ball at the 20 or 25 yard line if they are so concerned with injuries? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman21ST Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=6247029 Per the vote that just happened: Kickoffs are now from the 35 Five yard running start for the kickoff team Touchbacks weren't touched, they still go out to the 20 2-man wedges allowed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 Wow...it actually happened. Sorry, Devin Hester. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icbmayday Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 if it ain't broke, don't fix it! I agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 Devin Hester is only returning punts now, isn't he? Why does everyone keep bringing him up? I could have it backwards, though, and he's only returning kicks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostyj Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 I can live with this at least they didn't move the touchback to the 25yrd line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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