texasthunder Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 The NFL's Competition Committee has proposed moving kickoffs back to the 35-yard line as opposed to the 30-yard line. A touchback would give the receiving team the ball at the 25-yard line instead of the 20. Chairman Rich McKay cited injury concerns and the wedge block for the proposed change that would result in far more touchbacks. If the rule goes into effect, it would put a serious hurt on return-yardage fantasy leagues. It would also directly reverse the 1990s decision to move the kickoff line back and create fewer touchbacks. One other rule change being proposed is to modify the replay system to automatically include all scoring plays. http://www.rotoworld.com/sports/nfl/football/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champskins Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 if it ain't broke, don't fix it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audible_Red40 Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 I understand player safety but come on now. Eyery little bit of fear is changing rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f_trizzy Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 Reviewing all scores? Does that just mean the replay official in the booth will look at it and buzz down to the field if he sees something reviewable? I could go for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOF44 Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 Figures, we finally get a return man that can actually return the ball and they are gonna severely limit that aspect of the game now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossomo Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 Chairman Rich McKay cited injury concerns Please. This aint no F'n Nancy league. WTF. There's always going to be a risk of injury. If that's a concern, why even play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champskins Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 Please. This aint no F'n Nancy league. WTF. There's always going to be a risk of injury. in other news, the NHL will start using plastic pucks to reduce injury, and the MLB is replacing pitchers with a Tee to reduce the risk of pitcher injury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightningBuggs Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 Figures, we finally get a return man that can actually return the ball and they are gonna severely limit that aspect of the game now. Yep, if this rule change happens, Mr. Banks' days as a Redskin may be numbered. Particularly when you factor in the little incident in DC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champskins Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 Yep, if this rule change happens, Mr. Banks' days as a Redskin may be numbered. Particularly when you factor in the little incident in DC. The league is taking a stab at us! Whoops, too soon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman21ST Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 Having it at the 35 yard line now makes it even more enticing to do an onside kick...which would result in more scrums, and more injury. See Competition Committee? I can find a flaw in your logic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD_washingtonredskins Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 So, several years ago they move kickoffs back to reduce touchbacks and increase the number of kickoffs that are returnable. Now, they are going to move things back up to reduce the number of returns, but give the offense 5 extra yards on touchbacks. Why? Why not just revert to the old rules? Why does the offense deserve 5 additional yards? Maybe the kicking team should have the option of kicking from the 30 (20 yardline for TBs) or the 35 (25 yardline for TBs). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audible_Red40 Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 Without changing the rules, teams are stratigically changing how they punt the ball to keep it away from returners, unless you're Matt Dodge. But this will enable place kickers to kick the ball into the 3rd row. Why oh why change the return game. For players safety?!? There will always be a risk in sports. I would prefer they kickoff with their opposite foot to ensure there's a return from the kick. I am not down with this at all. ---------- Post added March-16th-2011 at 11:58 AM ---------- Having it at the 35 yard line now makes it even more enticing to do an onside kick...which would result in more scrums, and more injury. See Competition Committee? I can find a flaw in your logic. Atta boy. Stick it to them. I like this "flaw". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman21ST Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 So, several years ago they move kickoffs back to reduce touchbacks and increase the number of kickoffs that are returnable. Now, they are going to move things back up to reduce the number of returns, but give the offense 5 extra yards on touchbacks. Why? Why not just revert to the old rules? Why does the offense deserve 5 additional yards? Maybe the kicking team should have the option of kicking from the 30 (20 yardline for TBs) or the 35 (25 yardline for TBs). It actually would probably increase the number of injuries...the 25 yard touchback now places emphasis on high, short kickoffs, which lets the kicking team get down to the ball sooner, possibly right when the receiver is catching it... There are holes all over this proposal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrecker Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 After the lockout they should just rename the league The PFL. :mad: .....here kitty kitty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truant Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 This is weird. The board was overwhelmingly against an 18 game schedule for player safety. Now they talk about another change to help player safety and people don't like it. Amazing how terrified people are of change. On a kickoff players are running full speed with 20+ yards of momentum at least when they hit one another. That's far more hazardous than an onside kickoff scrum. When was the last time you saw someone carted off on an onside kick? Just about every game/every week someone gets hurt on kickoff coverage. The types of injuries on kickoffs and the massive collisions amount to one of the bigger health risks we have... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 Yep, if this rule change happens, Mr. Banks' days as a Redskin may be numbered. Particularly when you factor in the little incident in DC. Yeah, not happening. If we're smart we'll limit him to punt returns anyways, and get him off of kick returns. So this potential rule change wouldn't effect him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightningBuggs Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 Yeah, not happening. If we're smart we'll limit him to punt returns anyways, and get him off of kick returns. So this potential rule change wouldn't effect him. Believe what you want. But this rule change wouldn't help his position with the team. If all of those proposed changes go thru, it wouldn't make any sense to return kickoffs on average. And Brandon isn't exactly entrenched as our #1 punt returner. I happen to believe he could be a numbers casualty under this scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polywog999 Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 We could just not have them at all....that way; NO ONE would get hurt. Also, we could put flags in player's back pockets..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flock53 Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 Why have a KO, just spot it at the 30 yd line OR better yet place it at the 5, to create more safeties, blowouts and better field position for the other team if you cant move the ball and will not change until you score or put a decent drive together......OH WAIT, bad idea, the other teams will be playing on our side the whole game. THEY JUST OVERTHINK THINGS TO JUSTIFY HAVING A COMMITEE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 Believe what you want. But this rule change wouldn't help his position with the team. If all of those proposed changes go thru, it wouldn't make any sense to return kickoffs on average. And Brandon isn't exactly entrenched as our #1 punt returner. I happen to believe he could be a numbers casualty under this scenario. That's ridiculous. Its likely that he's "only" going to be our PR in the future anyways, so my point was that these rules changes do nothing to his standing on the team. He's far too explosive to let go right now, he's proven that. And most teams have different PR and KR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockdeep Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 in other news, the NHL will start using plastic pucks to reduce injury, and the MLB is replacing pitchers with a Tee to reduce the risk of pitcher injury The Latest: tackling will be banned in the NFL and more pads will be issued to cover the body. The Lombardi Trophy will be replaced by Orange Slices at the end of the game and scores wont be kept to maintain the fragile mindsets of the kids. I mean players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bentskin Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 I agree with the thought that this could actually cause more injuries. If a touch back on the kick off results in the ball being spotted at the 25 teams will teach and instruct the kicker to simply kick the ball higher and to one side of the field to pin in the returner (which they do now). The additional hang time will result in better coverage and probably MORE collisions due to the fact that more tacklers will be in position to make a tackle. And with the additional time the larger slower players will be involved more as well. I have grown used to the kick off at the 30 yard line. I did not like it at first but it is more fun to watch returns than touch backs. I have had a rule change idea for a long time. And it goes along with the kick off theme of this thread. The only point that can not be scored is 1. Why not award 1 point for kick offs that go through the uprights like a field goal. I thought about this when they kicked off from the 35 but it would more difficult and fair now. A team would be able to take advantage of wind conditions and a team would actually benefit from a 15 yd penalty on touchdowns and extra points. Defenses get off way too easy when a penalty is assessed on a kick off and the result is merely a touch back because the kicking team kicked from the 45. Start giving up points and things could get interesting. Turn in a 9 point game into an 8 or 8 into 7, 4 into 3 maybe, you never know when that point will be the difference. How exciting would it be in the final seconds to score a touchdown to tie the game with a penalty assessed on the kick off and then have a chance to take the lead on that kick off? Anyway, just my idea. Award 1 point for kick offs that travel through the uprights. HTTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peregrine Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 I'm not sure this works :-O Say you have a kicker who can boom it into the endzone. Now, say you realize you are penalized more for that, in other words it goes to the 25 instead of the 20. If the other team did not have a good return guy I would have the kicker kick the ball higher, to land at the 1, knowing all of my return men are now 5 yards further down the field and more likely to stop him before the 25. If a team is down in a game expect to see this employed often leading to just as many violent collisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSimports Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 Lets just end the debate and put the ball on the 20 after each scoring drive. This will ensure no injuries from a kickoff.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrepDC Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 A lot of the people in this thread are correct when they say that coaches will just have the kickers kick the ball higher. That's what I'd do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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