Mr. Cooke Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 What is the true opportunity cost of buying Skins season tickets? $318,497.38. For the record, I have a pair of tickets in section 403 and a green pass. Here are the variables: -The tickets cost $79/seat, or $1,580 ($79 x 20) -Prince George's County ticket sales tax of 11.25% (thanks to the Honorable Jack Johnson and PG County Council). -A green parking pass for the year is $350 ($35 x 10 games) -I've assumed ownership of the tickets for 30 years and an annual cost adjustment of 3%. Keep in mind that the average CPI over long periods of time has been 3.1%. Although the Skins have held ticket prices steady for the last few years, consider how much ticket prices have risen over the last thirty years (a much greater increase than the 3% assumption or historical CPI). -I've used a 7.5% assumed compound rate of return if the money were invested and not used to purchase season tickets and parking passes. Throughout history, most every rolling ten year periods of time and every twenty year period of time markets have returned slightly higher than 10% -Also, keep in mind that the money used to purchase our tickets/passes is after tax, and so had the funds been alternatively invested in a traditional IRA or 401K (both pre-tax) the aggregate amount would be much higher. -And this excludes all the beer, hot dogs, Skins clothes etc. we purchase. 12011$2,107.00$2,265.03$2,199.05 22012$2,170.21$4,767.88$4,494.18 32013$2,235.32$7,528.43$6,889.58 42014$2,302.38$10,568.12$9,389.64 52015$2,371.45$13,910.03$11,998.92 62016$2,442.59$17,579.07$14,722.20 72017$2,515.87$21,602.06$17,564.45 82018$2,591.34$26,007.91$20,530.88 92019$2,669.08$30,827.77$23,626.92 102020$2,749.16$36,095.20$26,858.22 112021$2,831.63$41,846.34$30,230.69 122022$2,916.58$48,120.14$33,750.50 132023$3,004.08$54,958.53$37,424.09 142024$3,094.20$62,406.69$41,258.17 152025$3,187.03$70,513.25$45,259.77 162026$3,282.64$79,330.57$49,436.19 172027$3,381.12$88,915.07$53,795.08 182028$3,482.55$99,327.44$58,344.40 192029$3,587.03$110,633.05$63,092.48 202030$3,694.64$122,902.26$68,048.00 212031$3,805.48$136,210.82$73,220.03 222032$3,919.64$150,640.25$78,618.01 232033$4,037.23$166,278.29$84,251.84 242034$4,158.35$183,219.38$90,131.79 252035$4,283.10$201,565.16$96,268.64 262036$4,411.59$221,425.01$102,673.61 272037$4,543.94$242,916.62$109,358.40 282038$4,680.26$266,166.64$116,335.25 292039$4,820.66$291,311.35$123,616.91 302040$4,965.28$318,497.38$131,216.70 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ST21 Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 Watching the Skins beat the Terds....Priceless!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PigSkins Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 watching the skins beat the terds....priceless!!! rofl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinfan2k Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 imagine if you put that money towards your retirement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonOfWashington Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 12011$2,107.00$2,265.03$2,199.05 22012$2,170.21$4,767.88$4,494.18 32013$2,235.32$7,528.43$6,889.58 42014$2,302.38$10,568.12$9,389.64 52015$2,371.45$13,910.03$11,998.92 62016$2,442.59$17,579.07$14,722.20 72017$2,515.87$21,602.06$17,564.45 82018$2,591.34$26,007.91$20,530.88 92019$2,669.08$30,827.77$23,626.92 102020$2,749.16$36,095.20$26,858.22 112021$2,831.63$41,846.34$30,230.69 122022$2,916.58$48,120.14$33,750.50 132023$3,004.08$54,958.53$37,424.09 142024$3,094.20$62,406.69$41,258.17 152025$3,187.03$70,513.25$45,259.77 162026$3,282.64$79,330.57$49,436.19 172027$3,381.12$88,915.07$53,795.08 182028$3,482.55$99,327.44$58,344.40 192029$3,587.03$110,633.05$63,092.48 202030$3,694.64$122,902.26$68,048.00 212031$3,805.48$136,210.82$73,220.03 222032$3,919.64$150,640.25$78,618.01 232033$4,037.23$166,278.29$84,251.84 242034$4,158.35$183,219.38$90,131.79 252035$4,283.10$201,565.16$96,268.64 262036$4,411.59$221,425.01$102,673.61 272037$4,543.94$242,916.62$109,358.40 282038$4,680.26$266,166.64$116,335.25 292039$4,820.66$291,311.35$123,616.91 302040$4,965.28$318,497.38$131,216.70 wat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostofSparta Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 12011$2,107.00$2,265.03$2,199.05 22012$2,170.21$4,767.88$4,494.18 32013$2,235.32$7,528.43$6,889.58 42014$2,302.38$10,568.12$9,389.64 52015$2,371.45$13,910.03$11,998.92 62016$2,442.59$17,579.07$14,722.20 72017$2,515.87$21,602.06$17,564.45 82018$2,591.34$26,007.91$20,530.88 92019$2,669.08$30,827.77$23,626.92 102020$2,749.16$36,095.20$26,858.22 112021$2,831.63$41,846.34$30,230.69 122022$2,916.58$48,120.14$33,750.50 132023$3,004.08$54,958.53$37,424.09 142024$3,094.20$62,406.69$41,258.17 152025$3,187.03$70,513.25$45,259.77 162026$3,282.64$79,330.57$49,436.19 172027$3,381.12$88,915.07$53,795.08 182028$3,482.55$99,327.44$58,344.40 192029$3,587.03$110,633.05$63,092.48 202030$3,694.64$122,902.26$68,048.00 212031$3,805.48$136,210.82$73,220.03 222032$3,919.64$150,640.25$78,618.01 232033$4,037.23$166,278.29$84,251.84 242034$4,158.35$183,219.38$90,131.79 252035$4,283.10$201,565.16$96,268.64 262036$4,411.59$221,425.01$102,673.61 272037$4,543.94$242,916.62$109,358.40 282038$4,680.26$266,166.64$116,335.25 292039$4,820.66$291,311.35$123,616.91 302040$4,965.28$318,497.38$131,216.70 I know those numbers signify something, but for the life of me, dude, I can't figure it out. You might need to clarify that, or at least clean up the format a little if the point is in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeeb Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 This is kind of dumb, if you don't want to spend the money on it don't. You could make a similar argument about any hobby ever or anything entertainment wise you would spend your disposable income on. THINK OF THE MONEY YOU WOULD SAVE!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark The Homer Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 Sorry, you're going to have to do it over. The county tax is ten percent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illone Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 I saved 115K by quitting smoking. Pretty much any weekly, or daily expense extrapolated over a large sample size like 20-30 years is going to be a sticker shock type number. You spent a couple hundred bucks a week to watch your favorite team play:whoknows: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hieverybody Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 That could buy one big tv. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayAction Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 This is kind of dumb, if you don't want to spend the money on it don't. You could make a similar argument about any hobby ever or anything entertainment wise you would spend your disposable income on. THINK OF THE MONEY YOU WOULD SAVE!! Fast forward thirty years when you'll start thinking about "planning" for retirement. "How come I don't have any money?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurseReversed Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 Sorry, you're going to have to do it over. The county tax is ten percent. hahaahah good stuff. With the financial calc it would only take him a minute anyways, but still. lol Man when you put it like that you can see that it truly does add up to that much, crazy. just goes to show how the small things now can affect the future so greatly when they are amortized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Cooke Posted January 22, 2011 Author Share Posted January 22, 2011 Sorry, you're going to have to do it over. The county tax is ten percent. Mark, With apologies and an adjusted PG County tax of 10%, the final opportunity cost is a mere $315,625. To a couple others: OK, I'm not the best (or even good) enough to re-format. But moving left to right... -The year is indicated first ex:12011, 22012, 32013... -The second value represents the EOP Savings Balance. -The inflation-adjusted balance is indicated third. As to the merit or futility of this exercise, it's just a thought. As indicated, I'm a season ticket holder. And to reiterate this is after tax money. On a pre-tax basis, it's closer to a half million dollars over a 30 year period. How many of us max out our work 401K's and fully fund our IRA's before we purchase season tickets/parking? Private industry has for the most part eliminted defined benefit pensions, the average savings rate in this country is extremely low, the Social Security Trust Fund will be insolvent in 2041 without significant changes and most people in this country believe that their retirement will be a struggle. Imagine having an additional $315,000 after taxes or a half million before taxes down the road. Semper Fi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elkabong82 Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 I pay $3.25 a week for milk. In one year that's $169 just on milk. Over 30 years, w/o adjusting for inflation, that's $5,070 for milk. $5K for milk! I'm just going to quit milk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skin'Em84 Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 Shoot, I pay 200 a month on electricity. After a year, that's 2400, after 30 years that's 72,000 bucks! I should quit having electricity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinfan2k Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 I pay $3.25 a week for milk. In one year that's $169 just on milk. Over 30 years, w/o adjusting for inflation, that's $5,070 for milk. $5K for milk! I'm just going to quit milk. i mean you should, milk cant help u grow now. it served its purpose already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sundancer91 Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 imagine if you put that money towards your retirement you would have lost either way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Cooke Posted January 23, 2011 Author Share Posted January 23, 2011 you would have lost either way The value of the S&P 500 on January 1, 1980 was 135.76 and 1,257.64 on December 31, 2010. This reflects a rise in value of over 9 times during this 30 year period of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techboy Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 The value of the S&P 500 on January 1, 1980 was 135.76 and 1,257.64 on December 31, 2010. This reflects a rise in value of over 9 times during this 30 year period of time. What's the S&P 500 going to be on December 31, 2040? That's what we really need to know! SEC mandated disclaimer: Past performance is no guarantee of future results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flock53 Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 Milk and electricity are like "needs". Watching a lousy team year after year isnt. WOW, I save $12,000 over 30 years getting rid of the Ticket........but I can watch other GOOD football teams/games ---------- Post added January-23rd-2011 at 12:29 AM ---------- i mean you should, milk cant help u grow now. it served its purpose already WHAT???? You ever try to eat cereal in water? YUCK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDTERPS27 Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 Milk and electricity are like "needs". Watching a lousy team year after year isnt. WOW, I save $12,000 over 30 years getting rid of the Ticket........but I can watch other GOOD football teams/games If you've been watching for 30 years you would have seen the team win 3 Superbowls. Not really that lousy.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sly Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 A buddy of mine brought this up one time when talking about alcohol.... about how much money he'd have now if he never drank or went out to bars. Unless you're an alcoholic or hate alcohol and force yourself to drink it, I don't really buy this argument. Think about all the great memories with friends you'd be giving up! When I'm on my death bed, I want to know I had a great time with my life. Season tickets are definitely a huge investment. I'd only consider it if I was retired and already accomplished all my financial goals (for the most part). It's almost impossible to put a price on great memories, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSilverMaC Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 i mean you should, milk cant help u grow now. it served its purpose already Osteoporosis is a ***** though. I say keep drinking the milk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFISkins Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 "Semper Fi" SEMPER FI!! :logo: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinzWILL Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 So that is what like .5 tackle by Fat Al? Drink the milk, but make sure its organic or hormone free. I read that a gallon of milk a day (.5 gal every 2) has the same amounts of hormones as a birth control pill. All that estrogen is real bad for you. And osteo is a mother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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